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Daikatana Ritsu posted:once you understand nocturne it becomes much easier. you will start creating plans B, C, D, E etc. without even realizing it, because the game conditioned you to do so. and also because you have more demon slots to pull those strats off with yeah I have kinda noticed that Matador was the hardest part so far - not because he's the hardest boss but because you don't have the compendium yet, whereas once you have it, if you keep up with fusions appropriate to your level it gets easier, at least so far
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when they showed smt5 the game ends when the player dies, which makes me think maybe theyre going back to only saving at certain spots and the smt3 flow? idk. i want it
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Sep 29, 2021 17:11
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The hardest thing about 4 was not getting killed by your ai partner in the first two boss batyles and then not falling asleep casting meggido over and over on all constant trash mob random battles while you regain mp from walking
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Sep 29, 2021 18:09
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Nocturne at least never randomly puts you in an impossible situation like fighting Minotaur with Walter
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Sep 29, 2021 18:22
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When I beat Minotaur it was with Walter but only because I had a demon with Sekunda and constantly kept his hit-rate bottomed out so he missed most of his attacks, a strategy that never worked again in that game or Apocalypse for some reason
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Sep 29, 2021 19:18
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I think that's possibly the thing I like the most in the SMT/Persona games I've played so far, boosting/de-buffing hit and evade actually works and does something.
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Sep 29, 2021 20:42
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:When I beat Minotaur it was with Walter but only because I had a demon with Sekunda and constantly kept his hit-rate bottomed out so he missed most of his attacks, a strategy that never worked again in that game or Apocalypse for some reason Debuffs definitely don’t work like they do in 3. I never really messed with them in 4 but since they are so essential in 3, I’m having to retrain myself to not rely on them now that I’m playing apocalypse
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Sep 29, 2021 21:10
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:I think that's possibly the thing I like the most in the SMT/Persona games I've played so far, boosting/de-buffing hit and evade actually works and does something. Quad debilitating a boss ftw
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Sep 29, 2021 21:23
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Buffs and debuffs were definitely still very essential when I played SMT4 Apocalypse on Apocalypse mode. Even if they get dekaja/dekunda'd that's still a turn the boss wasn't using to kill you It looks like buffs/debuffs in SMTV have a set duration and are single target, though there certainly could be ma- versions of them.
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Sep 30, 2021 15:45
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Single target debuffs probably won't make a huge difference unless there are multi-target bosses but for buffs it'll throw a v interesting wrinkle in the formula...
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In Training posted:Quad debilitating a boss ftw on the other hand, Pale Rider's flunkies spamming Debilitate... first time I tried to play this it was vanilla but I'm glad I switched to Maniax/Chronicles because the Fiends are so good
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is defeating Metatron what locks you into the True Demon Ending or is it going to meet with Lucifer after that?
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:is defeating Metatron what locks you into the True Demon Ending or is it going to meet with Lucifer after that? The latter
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feel like im in a good rhythm now, oneshot a lot of bosses in a row. though I think that mostly is Charge being incredible lol monk fiend was loving cool and scared the poo poo out of me when he started giving himself extra turns and using aoe hama. i mustve gotten insanely lucky in that fight, he spent over half his turns on a weak phys attack and missing and never cleared debuffs
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Oct 4, 2021 06:01
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Oct 5, 2021 04:42
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detoured from the endgame to gain the ultimate magatama. Freikugel ftw
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:detoured from the endgame to gain the ultimate magatama. Freikugel ftw it will make the TDE boss so much easier, good job
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Oct 5, 2021 06:19
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:it will make the TDE boss so much easier, good job I can't imagine beating him without it, especially in his last phase it's basically a race to murder him with Freikugel before his ultimate attack does a tick too much damage and kills either the MC outright or enough party death to start a death spiral
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Oct 5, 2021 11:14
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ever since i first googled "kalpa" i've been deep diving even further. went on a similar tangent with SMT 4 looking into some demon names. this is just one of the reasons why SMT is ftw.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I can't imagine beating him without it, especially in his last phase it's basically a race to murder him with Freikugel before his ultimate attack does a tick too much damage and kills either the MC outright or enough party death to start a death spiral There’s a series on YouTube of a guy beating TDE without buffing or debuffing. It’s a fascinating series because he has to bend the SMT3 game mechanics as far as they will let him to actually complete it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OWCgoEaniw If you’ve got some time to watch, I recommend it. It’s really cool. And on the YouTube link note…this song rips and gets me amped up for V. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik
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Oct 5, 2021 22:04
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I think it would be possible if you tune your MC to full support and fuse high lvl demons with pierce
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:I think it would be possible if you tune your MC to full support and fuse high lvl demons with pierce This is what I had to do, my MC was magic focused w/o pierce (I leveled magatama to get piece to see what it did but then discarded it bc i had no physical skills lol). it took a couple hours of grinding, fusing and retuning my strat but it worked.
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:I think it would be possible if you tune your MC to full support and fuse high lvl demons with pierce That’s essentially what the guy I posted did. He fused a Pierce mitama and used it to give all his demons Pierce. He also had to grind incenses to max out his demons stats.
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Picked this back up after a bit of a break and beat this guy:extremebuff posted:feel like im in a good rhythm now, oneshot a lot of bosses in a row. though I think that mostly is Charge being incredible lol first try as well. Immediately went down into the labyrinth to place the menorah, then saw that I needed a second one to actually progress. Walk of shame back, should have paid more attention the first time I reached the pedestal...
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Oct 6, 2021 15:53
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labyrinth of amala clear. kaz, i'm...already a demon.
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Oct 6, 2021 15:56
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SMTV comes out in a month.
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In Training posted:SMTV comes out in a month. going full streamer mode trying to beat smt3 before then. starting a new job very soon. i still believe.
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In Training posted:SMTV comes out in a month. Hoipe.
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lol the diet building is cool so far
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In Training posted:SMTV comes out in a month. 
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I can't believe Gozu-Tennoh is loving dead tbh I'm extremely lost now. Walked around the world map a bunch and can't find [starting with K] prison. weak poo poo. I'll sleep on it and try again to find my way tomorrow.
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Hunting down the specific random brown square it wants you to find somewhere on the large brown world map with minimal direction is, uh, not the highlight of the game on the two or three times it happens
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Hunting down the specific random brown square it wants you to find somewhere on the large brown world map with minimal direction is, uh, not the highlight of the game on the two or three times it happens the locations you can enter flash red
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Hunting down the specific random brown square it wants you to find somewhere on the large brown world map with minimal direction is, uh, not the highlight of the game on the two or three times it happens smt4 was truly awful about this, thank god 4a fixed that
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extremebuff posted:smt4 was truly awful about this, thank god 4a fixed that i remember havng to go look up a map of tokyo at least twice playin 4 because some guys like oh go to kabuki-cho or whatever and i'm just sittin there nodding like i know what that means
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Fungah! posted:i remember havng to go look up a map of tokyo at least twice playin 4 because some guys like oh go to kabuki-cho or whatever and i'm just sittin there nodding like i know what that means Lol
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Yeah I feel like I've been around the world (get it, round) three times eyes peeled for something red but most stuff is just closed now. I thought after Thor told me "do whatever" the "not strong enough" door in the Mantra basement would open, but no, just more hints to search for a prison somewhere Apparently a manikin is imprisoned there so my next idea is to ask around in Ginza underpass where they live
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Simply Simon posted:Yeah I feel like I've been around the world (get it, round) three times eyes peeled for something red but most stuff is just closed now. I thought after Thor told me "do whatever" the "not strong enough" door in the Mantra basement would open, but no, just more hints to search for a prison somewhere the gate leading east out of the Mantra HQ is the way to go if you want the prison but be prepared for Hell Biker
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Tokyo Sexwale posted:the locations you can enter flash red That includes a bunch of stuff though including things I don't think you ever actually get to use or enter, like the weird... radio tower thing in the southwest
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:That includes a bunch of stuff though including things I don't think you ever actually get to use or enter, like the weird... radio tower thing in the southwest Bro that's Tokyo Tower.
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