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Lascivious Sloth posted:Serious question on HR/Medical policies: In general, if I do a medical checkup as a pre-requirement for a position and they find that I have a serious medical condition (such as heart issues, kidney issues, liver, stomach etc. etc) will that be criteria for exclusion for the position? If yes, does that mean you can't gain employment if you have a chronic or acute illness? If no, then what is the purpose of the pre employment medical checkup and what criteria flags you for exclusion (e.g., then whats the purpose of it)? I have an annual work physical coming up and I have developed tinnitus since the last time they did the hearing booth before Covid. It’s untreatable as far as I know so I’ll let you know what happens when I fail it. I’m hoping they are still not doing the hearing test part.
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wilderthanmild posted:I know some jobs have physical requirements you have to meet for various reason. This could be for your own safety or for others safety. But if you aren't like a industrial diver, operating heavy machinery of some kind, or airline pilot, I can't imagine a reason for it other than like insurance poo poo. I know in mining, at least, it’s ok to have these issues but they want to know that you are being treated by a medical professional and have it under control. Dying on a remote site is a pain in the arse.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:#thathappened At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” e: here it is https://allybot.io/ Prism Mirror Lens fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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I had someone get mad when I referred to Star Trek fandom as a subculture. In context I was saying that while discussing how I enjoyed the show and identifying myself as part of that group and the discussion had been fun up until that point, when I had to backpedal as they didn't know what the word meant and thought I was attacking them (and myself?). That coworker seemed upset when I subsequently was unwilling to discuss non-work matters with them.
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Oct 6, 2021 16:22
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I had someone get mad when I referred to Star Trek fandom as a subculture. In context I was saying that while discussing how I enjoyed the show and identifying myself as part of that group and the discussion had been fun up until that point, when I had to backpedal as they didn't know what the word meant and thought I was attacking them (and myself?). That coworker seemed upset when I subsequently was unwilling to discuss non-work matters with them. The alternative is that Star trek fandom is the dominant culture which I dont think anyone is ready for.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” Fifteen dollars a month to be told to call your colleagues "fam" FIFTEEN DOLLARS A MONTH What a loving grift
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Automatic Retard posted:I know in mining, at least, it’s ok to have these issues but they want to know that you are being treated by a medical professional and have it under control. Similarly, in environmental and hazardous waste work, that initial physical is a measure of your baseline condition. Then you get a yearly physical, hearing test, vision test, blood and urine, the works, to check your exposure to anything you may have worked around. I’ve worked with hexavalent chromium (It’s bad) but had no exposure and the testing allowed them to show that, in case I decided to lawyer up down the road. It covers them as much as it does you.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” solution: call your fellow workers comrade (and your managers ma'am/sir as appropriate)
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Sapozhnik posted:solution: call your fellow workers comrade (and your managers ma'am/sir as appropriate) And they in turn will all call you “that shithead”
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When I visited our san fran office in 2019 someone berated me for saying "y'all" and told me that it's offensive but I've never been able to figure out what they meant
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Just use "team", or instead of "hey guys" it's "hey everyone" Y'all is also appropriate especially if you're not anywhere near the south Used it in Luxembourg once and they looked at me like I had a dick growing from my forehead
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Go full regional dialect and gently caress 'em if they don't like it. Unless you start it with "Howdy". Nobody should do that.
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Salutations compatriots, Please do the needful. Lots of love, Machai
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My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" Oh, wait, she also hires based on "are you 25 or younger?" My uber-boss is also an idiot. He expects that said attractive 25-year olds (who must also have master's degrees and at least five years of community management experience under their belt) would be interested in a full-time community management position, where you are not allowed to work remotely, for the princely sum of 1700 euros a month plus no benefits whatsoever.
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I exclusively speak Lojban to my co-workers, so as to avoid any possibility of ambiguity or misunderstanding.
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A guy who is dumb as poo poo just became a VP because his name is "fun to say"
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wilderthanmild posted:I know some jobs have physical requirements you have to meet for various reason. This could be for your own safety or for others safety. But if you aren't like a industrial diver, operating heavy machinery of some kind, or airline pilot, I can't imagine a reason for it other than like insurance poo poo. Oh good point sorry. It's literally just sitting at a computer all day. Lord Decimus Barnacle posted:I have an annual work physical coming up and I have developed tinnitus since the last time they did the hearing booth before Covid. It’s untreatable as far as I know so I’ll let you know what happens when I fail it. I’m hoping they are still not doing the hearing test part. I've had COVID twice and my body is hosed, and I have a second medical for the clinic to confirm I'm hosed because it flagged my bloodwork as being = almost dead/terminal. So I'm worried that this will affect my hiring, even though my job has no implications around physical work. I've always passed a medical 100% before, so now I don't know what the implications are if I get a flag on a chronic illness or disease. For example if someone has cancer or even terminal cancer and the work requires a medical, can they be rejected based on this (when the work doesn't require physical work, just being an office bitch)? Hyrax Attack! posted:I had someone get mad when I referred to Star Trek fandom as a subculture. In context I was saying that while discussing how I enjoyed the show and identifying myself as part of that group and the discussion had been fun up until that point, when I had to backpedal as they didn't know what the word meant and thought I was attacking them (and myself?). That coworker seemed upset when I subsequently was unwilling to discuss non-work matters with them. Prism Mirror Lens posted:At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” I think I've been away from western culture for far too long. I'm a diehard liberal bleeding hearts socialist and believe in equality, equity etc. but this is just stupid. Fleta Mcgurn posted:My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" Where I live people place their profile photo on their CV and its fun to go through them and jokingly judge them based on looks (like people putting photos of them with their shirt off, or a modeling shoot etc.)
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” Lmao, i've seen people get reprimanded for using master/slave and blacklist - but holy moly "dummy value?"
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" My MegaCorp pays young folk way below a living wage, like maybe around $40k in a major city with zero vacation for the first year. While these recruits are supposed to be the future of the company this means they are quick to leave as our more nimble competitors without dinosaur management identify talent and tempt them away at twice the pay. Meaning long term we have weaker staff and have to fill skill gaps with thousands of contractors, who cost far more than if we brought starting wages up to the median.
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I wrote a few thousand words of legalese about master/slave control systems just a few weeks ago.
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The best inclusive way to start a meeting is "Yo...VIP, let's kick it!"
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vyst posted:Lmao, i've seen people get reprimanded for using master/slave and blacklist - but holy moly "dummy value?" It's an offensive term to Marionette-Americans.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" Judging by the looks of our Social Media dept, you're not alone! Are yours getting paid 100k+ to post on social media all day too?
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I have no idea what my social media person is doing half the time and it's pretty hard to get a read on it. I trust them to work but if I was a little older or out of touch I'd probably be asking why I'm paying someone to dick about on Facebook all day.
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duffmensch posted:Judging by the looks of our Social Media dept, you're not alone! Are yours getting paid 100k+ to post on social media all day too? LMAO no, they're getting paid enough to live in a shared basement apartment in Barcelona and don't even get their train tickets comped.
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vyst posted:Lmao, i've seen people get reprimanded for using master/slave and blacklist - but holy moly "dummy value?" I've told people not to use "blacklist" in official communications, but in reference to blacklisting a consultant or company unofficially because if it's recorded and the email is leaked then it's a legal nightmare if they don't have an official file against the company when they aren't considered for a tender process, and they can sue us for it. edit: Wait, I'm wondering, do you mean not using "blacklist" because it has the word "black" in it, and that is somehow linked to negative racial connotations!? lmao jfc Lascivious Sloth fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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I don't think we have any dedicated social media posters (well, maybe an intern does that), but sometimes we get emails from marketing about a new article or case study on our company's web site and they mention the proper @s and hashtags to use if we want to share it on social media. Because, you know, the average employee's friends/followers list is probably chock full of directors of the very specific county/state agency we work with who would be interesting in spending hundreds of thousands or millions to buy our services. Also, lol to any people who want to mix their work and personal social media (or anything) together at all.
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mkvltra posted:Last week I learned one of the welders assaulted one of the software engineers a few years ago. Software guy ends up laying the welder out, welder's attack was easily parried + riposted. Both of them still work here. Good luck on the interview. I would get the hell out if I knew people were throwing down at work with some frequency. I'd prefer to not have the cube farm become a Street Fighter arena at random. Lascivious Sloth posted:Serious question on HR/Medical policies: In general, if I do a medical checkup as a pre-requirement for a position and they find that I have a serious medical condition (such as heart issues, kidney issues, liver, stomach etc. etc) will that be criteria for exclusion for the position? If yes, does that mean you can't gain employment if you have a chronic or acute illness? If no, then what is the purpose of the pre employment medical checkup and what criteria flags you for exclusion (e.g., then whats the purpose of it)? Most companies that do this have both office and field/manufacturing roles and mandate these sort of checks for everyone no matter what. It's more a concern if you are on the shop floor or something and have some preexisting conditions that may make it dangerous for you to do certain things. It all depends on what they consider serious enough to rescind an employment offer. I knew a guy who went through the work physical at my last job twice because the first time his blood pressure was too high, but because we were going to be office drones they just let him come back another day and try again.
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Lascivious Sloth posted:I've told people not to use "blacklist" in official communications, but in reference to blacklisting a consultant or company unofficially because if it's recorded and the email is leaked then it's a legal nightmare if they don't have an official file against the company when they aren't considered for a tender process, and they can sue us for it. Oh yeah the edit. There was a whole internal re-branding at an old company I worked for and we were supposed to stop using terms like master/slave (use parent/child instead) because they have racist connotations, same with blacklist/whitelist (because blacklist is bad and has the word black and we were supposed to use allow list/deny list). Let me be clear, I'm by no means judging the initiative and I'm a big supporter of equal rights and what not. Just mentioning a factual statement that I've seen people reprimanded for using them lol
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vyst posted:Lmao, i've seen people get reprimanded for using master/slave and blacklist - but holy moly "dummy value?" After 4 years of wondering I just realized I have the answer to why my clients use the phrase "knockout list"
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Unless your duties are expressly incompatible with your illness (ex. Truck driving with epilepsy or high blood pressure) anything found after an offer and employment such as during work physicals need dealt with through processes compatible with the ADA. Unfortunately a process compatible with the ADA is to give you reduced duties which result in a lower performance evaluation leading to separation. Most work physicals are to set a baseline for OSHA recordables and short term disability including office RSIs and will also be required by most long term disability insurances. They are mostly measuring if you are a baseline wreck so it's not their problem if you claim being a wreck because if the job and if you have an office job it's not really gonna effect your duties.
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Someone started a meeting today with the Geico camel video
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Lascivious Sloth posted:What the gently caress industries are these. That sounds like walking on egg shells. There's a balance between having a healthy inclusive supportive workplace culture and just becoming a police-state culture. Tech industry. Management knows that the software slaves are all millennials and attracting talent now needs to have some sort of bland corporate speak on diversity and force inconsequential poo poo like inclusive words Whatever, I’m not trying to rock the boat. I’m down to use whatever the majority white DEI panel tell me to use even in reference to my own race because I’m just trying to survive
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" Well... has she successfully hired anyone that's actually attractive?
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:My boss just admitted that she only hires based on looks for the social media department, then not ten minutes later wondered aloud, "Why on earth does no one ever work out in this role?" Glad this kind of idiocy is somewhat universal and not just an America thing. "We want you to do all these things and have years of experience, but we are going to pay you barely enough to live on"
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Scientastic posted:Fifteen dollars a month to be told to call your colleagues "fam" Don't hate the player, hate the game
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:At least one company I’ve seen has a bot which responds to every message including “guys” with a scold telling you to use “inclusive” language like “folks” instead. I also had to review a PR which was just someone removing every time I used the words “dummy value” Scientastic posted:Fifteen dollars a month to be told to call your colleagues "fam" Hello Party People!, You need to give me your loving input, on getting this dick-hole project done. Cheers and Salutations, Folks!, Blight
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