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In the Wikipedia article for Lolita it said that Steve Martin wrote a short story that is a continuation from her point of view and talks about how she uses her wiles to continue charming men until she passes in her 60s or something. I feel there's a lot to unpack there, especially since she dies in childbirth not too long after HH is executed
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Torquemada posted:Not even close to the worst thing, If you want to feel absolute rage, read some of Freud's case studies, specifically Dora. Poor kid is groomed and sexually assaulted by her parents' friend, and Freud tries to convince her that her hysteria stems from the fact that she's harboring a secret desire for the man. When she argues that she doesn't, Freud decides that it's because she's actually horny for the guy's wife. I know Freud's bullshit has been thoroughly debunked, but jesus.
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Oct 3, 2021 16:41
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I’m more surprised he let her change his mind
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Oct 3, 2021 19:41
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Take out the E and put in an A and that’s my opinion of Freud!
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Oct 3, 2021 23:30
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I'm afred of him too
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Oct 4, 2021 02:59
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oldpainless posted:Take out the E and put in an A and that’s my opinion of Freud! This post has not fared well.
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Oct 5, 2021 12:21
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Elissimpark posted:Nabakov does the unreliable narrator pretty well; Pale Fire has a delusioned and obsessed narrator too. I read Pale Fire a few years ago and it was one piece of media that DID age well; I can only imagine what kind of reception it got when it came out.
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Oct 5, 2021 12:46
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Interesting question: Can something edgy and controversial at the time can age worse if the consequences(Or exposure of them) would be worse if they made it today?
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Oct 6, 2021 06:01
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oldpainless posted:Take out the E and put in an A and that’s my opinion of Freud! More like oldcigarless
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Oct 6, 2021 06:57
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Rockit posted:Interesting question: Can something edgy and controversial at the time can age worse if the consequences(Or exposure of them) would be worse if they made it today? That IS a good question. Did you have a title in mind?
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Oct 6, 2021 08:15
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Blazing Saddles?
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Silly Newbie posted:More like oldcigarless Please. Sometimes oldpainless is just oldpainless.
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Oct 6, 2021 09:11
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Mr.Chill posted:That IS a good question. The Hangover 2
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Oct 6, 2021 09:26
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Blazing Saddles? I’ve heard Boomers complain that “you just couldn’t make Blazing Saddles today because everyone gets so offended!!!” It’s a savage satire on westerns, similar to how Deadpool movies are pretty savage against almost all the other marvel movies (at least the ones they could reference then). I mean christ, there’s heavily implied pegging in a movie now owned by Disney ffs. I do wonder how well Deadpool will age, but whoever succeeds Ryan Reynolds to play the character will at least be cracking jokes about how he used to be ugly until the studio changed the actor.
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Oct 6, 2021 12:39
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Icon Of Sin posted:I do wonder how well Deadpool will age, but whoever succeeds Ryan Reynolds to play the character will at least be cracking jokes about how he used to be ugly until the studio changed the actor. Deadpool's been around as a character since the 90s, so we can start getting an idea. I'm not great at knowing how comic runs are received outside of the famous flops, but generally speaking I think the thing with Deadpool isn't that his comics become offensive, they become unfunny. He's prone to references that become dated, or senses of humor that age out pretty bad.
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Oct 6, 2021 13:46
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I mean it's been said before by smarter people but Blazing Saddles was pretty drat controversial when it came out and people DID complain about it.
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Rockit posted:Interesting question: Can something edgy and controversial at the time can age worse if the consequences(Or exposure of them) would be worse if they made it today? South Park's global warming poo poo springs to mind.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I’ve heard Boomers complain that “you just couldn’t make Blazing Saddles today because everyone gets so offended!!!” Everybody who says this is laughing at it for the wrong reasons.
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Captain Fargle posted:South Park's global warming poo poo springs to mind. South Park in general too.
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Oct 6, 2021 18:46
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Mr.Chill posted:That IS a good question. "Why you never became a dancer" by whitehouse Or whitehouse in general . No one has the patience to have be a part politically contradictory fandoms to egg on like that and targeting someone for faking their trauma is just a recipe to call you an irresponsible idiot if the apparent excuse i found out of it being an trollish made but entirely genuine shoutout was true. People would just get mobbed if a guy had the same fandom today.
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Oct 6, 2021 20:08
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I have no idea what you're talking about
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Oct 6, 2021 20:10
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Wouldn’t the Iraq War support episodes some shows did look a lot worse today, while looking worse pretty quick over time? But they did just have that Afghan Translator show do an episode about the withdrawal.
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Oct 6, 2021 20:24
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Fish of hemp posted:Everybody who says this is laughing at it for the wrong reasons. I got pretty wary of a roommate that replayed the little old lady scene again and again and again.
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Oct 7, 2021 01:12
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In today's overly sensitive PC culture, you could not make A Million Ways to Die in the West.
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Oct 7, 2021 01:38
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Rockit posted:"Why you never became a dancer" by whitehouse This is incomprehensible, did autocorrect get you?
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there's all kinds of deliberately provocative movies that come out, they're just usually very bad so they are quickly forgotten instead of becoming cultural touchpoints this extremely racist and bad movie came out in 2019 and i dont know of any conversation around it except people noting "wow, this looks really bad" when it came out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQKCgpHTU2g
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Oct 7, 2021 01:49
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HopperUK posted:This is incomprehensible, did autocorrect get you? It's a dumb noise track where an reference to an artist was interpreted as an attack of said artist based on rape apologia. You have to dig through obscure interviews to find out he actually liked the artist and viewed her in pretty much the opposite terms. It's either an character study that's about an rape apologist or an trollish attempts to attack his own scene that brings up an positive example. It still paints an target on someone a good chunk of his fans would think is just an attention whore and it's a miracle if she wasn't affected by this.
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Oct 7, 2021 02:06
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If anything, it's even more incomprehensible. Some dude with less than 200 subscribers made a really lovely song with 4k views that may or may not have attacked another musician? Was he the rape apologist, or her? How is it a miracle that she wasn't affected by this? Why do a good chunk of his fans, i.e. a few dozen people, think this unspecified woman is an attention whore and why does it paint a target on her? Do they regularly play at the same townie dive bar or something?
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Oct 7, 2021 03:19
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is this a trick to get me to listen to a noise track if so, i dont appreciate it
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Oct 7, 2021 03:23
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Yeah that is not coherent
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Preem Palver posted:If anything, it's even more incomprehensible. Some dude with less than 200 subscribers made a really lovely song with 4k views that may or may not have attacked another musician? Was he the rape apologist, or her? How is it a miracle that she wasn't affected by this? Why do a good chunk of his fans, i.e. a few dozen people, think this unspecified woman is an attention whore and why does it paint a target on her? Do they regularly play at the same townie dive bar or something? Ok. Not everyone here is a dumb rear end music nerd. Fair enough. Probably shouldn't have posted contextless like that. For the record there's more to this group than low subs but it's not the kind of thing where people care to go to the source anymore:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehouse_(band) He was(at least pratically) the rape apologist and not her and this genre of music kinda has trouble making their intentions clear and in this case an refusal to.
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Rockit posted:Ok. Not everyone here is a dumb rear end music nerd. Fair enough. Probably shouldn't have posted contextless like that. Yeah, this isn't something a dumb rear end music nerd would know unless they're into a specific subgenre of an unpopular genre. Their biggest claim to fame is collaborating with J.G. Thirlwell 40 years ago, and he's already fairly obscure unless you're really into the Venture Bros or went on a deep dive with Zola Jesus. I stumbled across San Francisco's Shiver in a torrent like 15 years ago and fell in love with them, but I wouldn't expect even a hardcore psychedelic rock or stoner metal fan, much less random people in a forum, to know who they are despite being both rad as hell and fairly influential on subsequent heavy psychedelic music. They're still way more popular than Whitehouse according to youtube views, and they recorded a single album in 1972 that wasn't even released for nearly another 30 years and is a pale imitation of what they must have sounded like in a live show.
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Preem Palver posted:Yeah, this isn't something a dumb rear end music nerd would know unless they're into a specific subgenre of an unpopular genre. Their biggest claim to fame is collaborating with J.G. Thirlwell 40 years ago, and he's already fairly obscure unless you're really into the Venture Bros or went on a deep dive with Zola Jesus. That's not unfair but their actual claim to fame is being sampled by indie-ish hip hop artists. Or that there's an lovely low-fi video of that song that hit a one million(3 mil by now, huh) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNKgah948s Rockit has a new favorite as of 04:54 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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Somehow I thought this conversation was leading to LINGUA IGNOTA, so I guess now I've summoned her.
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Thirwell is probably better known in some circles as Foetus, like my circles. Also known as the band Raymond Watts from Pig kind of ripped off a bit.
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This episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S where Chandler quits his job in statistical reconfiguration and data analysis to work in advertising with absolutely zero experience and expecting to find a paying job immediately instead of having to eat poo poo via an unpaid internship lmao Gen Xers as written by Baby Boomers were wild.
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Calaveron posted:This episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S where Chandler quits his job in statistical reconfiguration and data analysis to work in advertising with absolutely zero experience and expecting to find a paying job immediately instead of having to eat poo poo via an unpaid internship lmao Gen Xers as written by Baby Boomers were wild. What do you mean? He probably just went right down to the advertising agency office with his resume, asked to speak to the manager and gave them a firm handshake, obviously.
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Oct 19, 2021 01:23
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Chandler did become an intern with a bunch of younger people. Him eating poo poo was a multiple episode subplot. I can't remember if he was getting paid or not but the show really stopped caring about money after the first couple seasons other than occasional Joey jokes.
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He was not getting paid for his internship. There was an episode where both he and Monica ask the now-successful Joey for money and hijinx ensure. Then he got hired as a “junior copywriter” and somehow didn’t have to worry about money anymore despite that being an entry-level position. F•R•I•E•N•D•S is clearly a land of contrasts.
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Shiroc posted:Chandler did become an intern with a bunch of younger people. Him eating poo poo was a multiple episode subplot. I can't remember if he was getting paid or not but the show really stopped caring about money after the first couple seasons other than occasional Joey jokes. Yeah but it's funny that after he manages to get a foot in the door via his wife's contact he still expects a paying job for a thing he has 0 experience for instead of having to do unpaid pre-entry level labor
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