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In High School a friend of mine wrote a terrible fanfic about Lennier rescuing David Sheridan from the Keeper in Londo's present because she felt he had been done dirty and needed redemption.
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OnlyBans posted:Mummy told JMS that is the way he wanted the character to go and JMS was like, "Are you sure?" the gently caress are you babbling about
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Oct 6, 2021 22:15
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sebmojo posted:the gently caress are you babbling about Since people care about primary sources, here is Mummy talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly7IE1d6rSg
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Oct 6, 2021 22:20
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Mumy suggested to JMS that maybe Lennier could have some kind of romantic plotline. Unsure if Mumy mentioned Delenn. JMS went "you sure, buddy?" and wrote Lennier's storyline, romantic interest and all. Mumy has complained ever since that Lennier got kind of a raw deal. JMS has pointed out that Lennier is mostly an awesome dude who just has a couple moments of weakness.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:22
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OnlyBans posted:Since people care about primary sources, here is Mummy talking about it: i was talking about the 4chan nonsense.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:26
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sebmojo posted:i was talking about the 4chan nonsense. We also have a primary source for that: "Space, Time and the Incurable Romantic".
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seaborgium posted:I did always think it was odd that he was "Mr. Garibaldi", even when he was head of security. He was part of a military organization and him not having any sort of rank/actual title was weird to me. Londo had a way of making it sound really cool though. Chief of Security is a title, but I don’t know what his rank is. Didn’t JMS try to pull some incel poo poo with Claudia that was another straw for her leaving? Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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Oct 6, 2021 22:39
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Luigi Thirty posted:Chief of Security is a title, but I don’t know what his rank is. He asked her out on a date.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:46
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Luigi Thirty posted:Chief of Security is a title, but I don’t know what his rank is. He’s a Chief Warrant Officer. A big part of his whole deal, explicitly, throughout the show, is that he’s an enlisted guy, not a commissioned officer. The proper address for that rank in most modern militaries is either Mr. or Chief.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:46
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Hollismason posted:Mostly there was some stuff I wanted to see resolve , mostly the Drakh what the gently caress. This was to be dealt with in Crusade, which only got a single partial season. And I have not watched it, I really should. I got through Legend of the Rangers, it can't be worse. Speaking of, don't forget the movies! There's one extremely good one, three mediocre, and one 
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Oct 6, 2021 22:49
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Grand Fromage posted:This was to be dealt with in Crusade, which only got a single partial season. And I have not watched it, I really should. I got through Legend of the Rangers, it can't be worse. Unfortunately, none of the movies are streaming anywhere. I watched B5 on HBOMax.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:52
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Warrants typically aren't enlisted. They're officers, just not commissioned. EXCEPT for Chief Warrant Officers typically are. At least in the US forces. Also Chief Warrant Officers don't actually exist, and are beasts of legend and mythology.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:54
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Hollismason posted:Unfortunately, none of the movies are streaming anywhere. I watched B5 on HBOMax. Oh. I dunno anything about streaming so I cannot help.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:57
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CainFortea posted:Warrants typically aren't enlisted. They're officers, just not commissioned. EXCEPT for Chief Warrant Officers typically are. At least in the US forces. My mistake on that hair split; but yeah, the point is that there is intended to be a clear class divide between him and the rest of the command staff, and his rank is absolutely part of that.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:01
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Luigi Thirty posted:Didn’t JMS try to pull some incel poo poo with Claudia that was another straw for her leaving? He did have a creepy date with her that is basically in the dictionary next to "Nice Guy" but her leaving was more due to her agent and the network playing a game of chicken with each other and nobody blinked so the cars crashed.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:01
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Chevy Slyme posted:My mistake on that hair split; but yeah, the point is that there is intended to be a clear class divide between him and the rest of the command staff, and his rank is absolutely part of that. Sure, not arguing. Just clarifying. Also making a joke about CWOs.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:01
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Hollismason posted:Unfortunately, none of the movies are streaming anywhere. I watched B5 on HBOMax. in the beginning is very good. i think i saw it somewhere i'll see if i can find a link.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:02
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Hollismason posted:Unfortunately, none of the movies are streaming anywhere. I watched B5 on HBOMax. In the UK they're all on amazon/imdb tv for free. I'm sure you can find a VPN if nothing else.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:06
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Grand Fromage posted:This was to be dealt with in Crusade, which only got a single partial season. And I have not watched it, I really should. I got through Legend of the Rangers, it can't be worse. It's not. I watched Crusade for the first time last year and it wasn't bad. Certainly no worse than B5's first half-season. The show had a lot of promise and could have been something special if given a chance. It also pays to watch Call to Arms, the TV movie that links B5 and Crusade and sets up the main thrust of Crusade, the Drakh plague.
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Hollismason posted:Unfortunately, none of the movies are streaming anywhere. I watched B5 on HBOMax. 
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Oct 6, 2021 23:10
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Hollismason posted:Well drat I just finished Bablyon 5 . Start to finish. Sleeping in the Light was super loving good. It was a good send off to a great show. I was a little disappointed we didn't see what happened to Lyta and G'Kar , but other wise it was good. Also really surprised to see Claudia Christsen and Ivanova return. Really great ending to a great show. We did see what happened to G'kar. He died in a final embrace with his soul mate Londo Mollari  As for Lyta, her fate is mentioned in one of the books, that also incidentally, deal with Bester And Sleeping in the Light is not just super loving good, it's one of the few series finales that actually sticks the landing.
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Legend of the Rangers is exhibit A in the argument that JMS has one good story in him. His Star Trek spec script is exhibit B. Was there ever any lore/details about who/what THE HAND were supposed to be?
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Oct 6, 2021 23:39
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OnlyBans posted:Legend of the Rangers is exhibit A in the argument that JMS has one good story in him. His Star Trek spec script is exhibit B. Do you mean Control? There was going to be some subplot involving it but Tri-Tac games tried to claim that JMS ripped off “Bureau 13” from one of their games, so rather than deal with that he just axed the story thread. “Who?” You may ask. Exactly.
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drat now I am going through Babylon 5 withdrawal now that I've watched the whole series. I guess I'll need to find something else to watch at night.
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Doctor Zero posted:Do you mean Control? There was going to be some subplot involving it but Tri-Tac games tried to claim that JMS ripped off “Bureau 13” from one of their games, so rather than deal with that he just axed the story thread. No the big bad from Legend of the Rangers who are older and more terrible than the Shadows. I always hoped they were delusional like the Freddy Krueger character in down below, both always talking about hands and such.
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Oct 7, 2021 00:30
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Chevy Slyme posted:He’s a Chief Warrant Officer. A big part of his whole deal, explicitly, throughout the show, is that he’s an enlisted guy, not a commissioned officer. Learn something new every day, didn't even think of it that way. I still think it sounds really cool as a title when Londo and G'Kar say it, just didn't realize there was a reason for it.
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Oct 7, 2021 01:46
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Hollismason posted:drat now I am going through Babylon 5 withdrawal now that I've watched the whole series. I guess I'll need to find something else to watch at night. What are your thoughts on older anime, because I'd love to introduce you to Legend of the Galactic Heroes. If there's one show that competes with B5 for my top favorite show of all time, it's LOGH.
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Oct 7, 2021 01:55
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Winifred Madgers posted:What are your thoughts on older anime, because I'd love to introduce you to Legend of the Galactic Heroes. If there's one show that competes with B5 for my top favorite show of all time, it's LOGH. Oh, yeah, that one was good. Where do you catch it these days?
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It’s on the streaking service Hdive last I saw it
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The reboot is ongoing on crunchyroll, and is legit. If the B5 reboot is as good, we'll be blessed. The old one was never licensed or localized for the US so it requires  . The fan subs are very good though.
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The United States posted:The movies are on iTunes, sold as a complete "season" pack for $30, which is absolutely more than they are worth. Wait hold up that looks like they want $30 just for Lost Tales which is hilariously overpriced.
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Oct 7, 2021 02:23
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I guess I'll return to my nightly ritual of watching Star Trek episodes. B5 isn't something that I can lay back and relax with because you can't really skip around episodes .
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Legend of Galactic Heroes is good and scratches the same itch. Watch the original one first since it's complete. I think the remake is solid, but it's only done like... 15% of the story so far so god knows when/if it'll finish.
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Oct 7, 2021 03:45
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CainFortea posted:Also Chief Warrant Officers don't actually exist, and are beasts of legend and mythology. I think he's just away for a bit. His cap and keys are still at his desk.
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Oct 7, 2021 06:56
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Hollismason posted:drat now I am going through Babylon 5 withdrawal now that I've watched the whole series. I guess I'll need to find something else to watch at night. You need to get your hands on the TV movies though. In the Beginning is unskippable, and it's nuts that there will be people now who just watch the remastered series for the first time without even realizing ItB exists let alone watching it. I'm sad they didn't include it, remastered or not. It's way more essential than The Gathering.
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Thinking of ItB reminds me of the hilariously campy but at times very impressive Finnish B5/Star Trek crossover parody movie, Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning from 2005. It's free on Youtube and I found it quite entertaining. (the video includes English subtitles among many others) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GOoMowFpZs
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Zat posted:You need to get your hands on the TV movies though. In the Beginning is unskippable, and it's nuts that there will be people now who just watch the remastered series for the first time without even realizing ItB exists let alone watching it. I'm sad they didn't include it, remastered or not. It's way more essential than The Gathering. I don’t know if I’d call it unskippable. It adds a lot of details to the background of things already talked about in the series. What I don’t like about it is how it connects characters who IMO should not have been, because they never talk about those connections in the series. A bit too retcon at times. It is great though!
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Doctor Zero posted:I don’t know if I’d call it unskippable. It adds a lot of details to the background of things already talked about in the series. Fair enough and I do agree on all points. I guess I meant that in terms of the B5 movies, it's by far the most important one, and that's including the pilot.
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OnlyBans posted:Was there ever any lore/details about who/what THE HAND were supposed to be? I don't think it was anything official, but I remember reading somewhere that they were vorlons brainwashed by whatever the third space aliens were meant to be. In absence of a better explanation I've stuck with that.
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Digital Flower posted:I don't think it was anything official, but I remember reading somewhere that they were vorlons brainwashed by whatever the third space aliens were meant to be. In absence of a better explanation I've stuck with that. That's actually kind of interesting, but I'd like to think he didn't plan on using any of the older races [spolier]that he so conclusively wrote out[/spoiler]. I'm assuming there was some kind of revelation planned about The Hand that would have made them interesting. Whatever it is, they should definitely not have started with "this is a powerful, aggressive, ancient enemy" because yeah, it really does scream "no new ideas". LotR together with the rest of B5's false starts worry me a little when it comes to the reboot. It's either been studio fuckery, JMS holding back the interesting stuff because he's planning a plot twist in episode 15, or no one watching. This is the fourth attempt at a spin-off/revival, so I'm not expecting it to be plain sailing.
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