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Talas posted:The next White Dwarf has some updated rules for Seraphon, just like Sons of Behemat and Slaves to Darkness in the recent issues. And well, that's something that a lot of people are taking as a sign that their next battletomes are going to take a while to arrive: Do these rules make it into the app(s) at all, or does it perpetually moan about an invalid list?
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Last month's still aren't in, at least - I can't give a mark to my Darkoath characters on my S2D list.
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Here I'm still waiting for my man Bastian
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Geisladisk posted:Out of those three, Kharadron are definitely the least forgiving. They are kind of a techy army, based on maneuvering and shenanigans. Ogors would be the easiest to play, but that is entirely down to them having barely any options other than "run at enemy and hit them until they stop moving". Seraphon have a huge range of options, they have strong bashing infantry, lots of options for synergy and magic, and lots of monsters that you can smash into the enemy while making dinosaur noises like a happy toddler. They have also consistently been a strong army for the past few years. As someone who learned how to play AoS whilst simultaneously starting out with KO, I can agree that they are very unforgiving which was becoming a big frustration to me at several points in my beginners journey. However now that I have about 13ish games under my belt I can safely say I can drive em ok. I love their steampunk dorfiness and the aesthetic so it's always fun to look at them, even as I take each poor Arkanaut off the table. Other more forgiving factions like Maggotkin or Ogors are looking more and more like beautiful secondary picks for me because there isn't as much going on / stuff to keep track of.
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Imho deepkin are easier to navigate than KO. You have fewer options in terms of loadouts, units and side rules and army wide rules make them more forgiving of mistakes.
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Do not collect Deepkin, you will have a miserable time with fragile sails and tiny connection points on swords and you will play only half of the tiny model range because the rules for the other half suck. Just be basic and do Stormcast instead, or collect Bonereapers or Blood Dragons if you wanna do a cavalry force.
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KO are pretty weird and hard in the context of the game but they're also really strong and cool so it's fine to pick them.
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Pretty much all the top tier forces are fiddly in some way and require you to learn how to handle them.
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The only thing that bugs me about KO are the players that keep asking to buy/trade for my Warp Lightning Vortex.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/07/discover-warhammer-the-old-worlds-ultimate-getaway-for-exiled-lords-and-rotten-princes New The Old World article, talking more about the Border Princes region. Granted, this is probably not the right thread for this but I don't think there is a Warhammer Fantasy thread kicking around so. v  v
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I mean that is cool and all, but where are my new stormcast? On a more serious note, I do have a feeling and this might be me being grumpy that the level of effort they put into their fantasy properties is reverse to what they pump into 40k
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I can’t really blame anyone for the delays because gestures at the entire world shipping collapse in progress
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You are not wrong. On the other hand some kind of report on the whole shipping craziness since Cursed City would be a fascinating read.
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I would want one of the smaller dragons to paint. But only one because space is premium in my display case at this point. I really need to buy a storage box for all my marines so I can free some up.
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The Deleter posted:Do not collect Deepkin, you will have a miserable time with fragile sails and tiny connection points on swords and you will play only half of the tiny model range because the rules for the other half suck. Just be basic and do Stormcast instead, or collect Bonereapers or Blood Dragons if you wanna do a cavalry force. Deepkin lists have changed up in 3.0 and somehow the Turtles and Namarti have become good. I still wouldn't recommend IDK to a beginner unless you really like fish.
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Could still use a new book to reorganize things, though, particularly their subfactions.
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JBP posted:KO are pretty weird and hard in the context of the game but they're also really strong and cool so it's fine to pick them. This. I don't mean to discourage anyone from starting to collect and play KO, simply explaining my own experience with the faction. They are a ton of fun and the models/lore are sick as hell.
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End of day, you can actually build KO like you would build oldhammer dorfs - lines of infantry with guns and gunhaulers as mobile cannons. It's not super effective, but one can do that, and it will be more straightforward. Then you can adjust as you learn
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Covermeinsunshine posted:End of day, you can actually build KO like you would build oldhammer dorfs - lines of infantry with guns and gunhaulers as mobile cannons. It's not super effective, but one can do that, and it will be more straightforward. Then you can adjust as you learn I have a Barak Thryng list with some fyreslayers allied in for deep strikin' nekkid dorf attacks. 2 gunhaulers, 2 frigates and a whole buttload of arkanauts. It's pretty juicy and I love it. Is it the most competitive list? Nah, probably not, but I have a lot of fun playing it.
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I know the guy who plays that because he is too lazy to haul around the gunhaulers (i'm serious). If I were to ever get into KO I would grab the ironclad because I want to ram people with a big boat.
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I knew a guy who played KO entirely boatless because he hated the boat models. I've never seen someone more dedicated to a) being wrong and b) playing in a suboptimal way.
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The Deleter posted:I knew a guy who played KO entirely boatless because he hated the boat models. I've never seen someone more dedicated to a) being wrong and b) playing in a suboptimal way. Did he also hate the baloon guys?
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Covermeinsunshine posted:I know the guy who plays that because he is too lazy to haul around the gunhaulers (i'm serious). If I were to ever get into KO I would grab the ironclad because I want to ram people with a big boat. The Zonbarcop 'Dealbreaker' Battle Ram(TM) is a very good Endrinwork for the Ironclad and a lot of fun, especially if you say "prepare for ramming speed" in your best Worf/Dwarf voice. The Deleter posted:I knew a guy who played KO entirely boatless because he hated the boat models. I've never seen someone more dedicated to a) being wrong and b) playing in a suboptimal way. I mean, I personally can't imagine why you'd get into KO if not for the boats, but hey horses for courses and all that. EDIT: Was it in this thread that someone recommended a good carry case with strap for carting around all your dice, battletomes, bits and gubbinz etc.? Or did I imagine that. DrDraxium fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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The Deleter posted:I knew a guy who played KO entirely boatless because he hated the boat models. I've never seen someone more dedicated to a) being wrong and b) playing in a suboptimal way. 
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Covermeinsunshine posted:Did he also hate the baloon guys? No, he had the special character who was a balloonist with the chainsaw hand, so I have no idea what his problem was.
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If I had more time/money/skill I would love to do a kitbash of Skaven and KO and have a Skaven sky-pirate army. It's tough for me to get super excited about AoS though. Skaven is my favorite faction and it feels like GW is trying to subtly push them out.
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Floppychop posted:If I had more time/money/skill I would love to do a kitbash of Skaven and KO and have a Skaven sky-pirate army. They got pretty recent buffs in the form of Moulder “mount” traits and ambush weapons teams that are still valid even if their battalions are narrative only now. They do need a hefty rework, though, the attempt to make them five different armies simultaneously didn’t really work. E: also, I would love to see sky pirats to go with the sky raider Tzeentchians ans the orc sky pirates that exist in the fluff. (Some Big Yellers stole a bunch of lovely aetherhulks from the KOs and have been raiding sky mining ops with them.)
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Floppychop posted:If I had more time/money/skill I would love to do a kitbash of Skaven and KO and have a Skaven sky-pirate army. Is there anything specific that makes you feel that way?
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Skaventide absolutely needs to stop loving around with their really weird conditional battlelines or whatever. I don't know if people are REALLY that all in on a solely Skyre or Pestilens army or whatever but everyone should just have Clanrats and Stormvermin baseline.
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Also, Acolytes need a loving box with a reasonable number of models at a reasonable price, not one off models at absurd cost.
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Randalor posted:Is there anything specific that makes you feel that way? The last battletome was phoned in and made army building a giant PITA. And things like subfactions' battlelines being sold as $15 individual models that you need multiples of 5. Rules got pretty wonky as far as abilities, but unit and rules strengths are a yo-yo so I don't really take those into consideration, but it's clear that they didn't have people working on the battletome that liked Skaven, or even really understood them. Sure molder got some decent rules with 3.0, but hoo boy those models. Also good loving luck trying to run Eshin. The Deleter posted:Skaventide absolutely needs to stop loving around with their really weird conditional battlelines or whatever. I don't know if people are REALLY that all in on a solely Skyre or Pestilens army or whatever but everyone should just have Clanrats and Stormvermin baseline. It needs to be like every other faction with conditional battlelines and subfactions: If your General is X, then Y is considered battleline. Not this current bullshit.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/10/07/discover-warhammer-the-old-worlds-ultimate-getaway-for-exiled-lords-and-rotten-princes Is anyone else restarting their old square basy fantasy armies as a long term run up to Warhammer: The old world?
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hooman posted:Is anyone else restarting their old square basy fantasy armies as a long term run up to Warhammer: The old world? There's at least one game I consider worthwhile that you can use them in while you wait. I'm a multi-basing person myself, but nothing wrong with ranking up individual minis.
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hooman posted:Is anyone else restarting their old square basy fantasy armies as a long term run up to Warhammer: The old world? Let's pretend all these bretonnian stls I collect and intend to print one day is for the old world.
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Floppychop posted:If I had more time/money/skill I would love to do a kitbash of Skaven and KO and have a Skaven sky-pirate army. Someone in my LGS has this army with mechanicus and Necron parts for flavor and it whips as much rear end as you’re imagining
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MCPeePants posted:There's at least one game I consider worthwhile that you can use them in while you wait. I'm a multi-basing person myself, but nothing wrong with ranking up individual minis. Kings of war?
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...rlds-harrowdeep Sadly no dragons next week either, but the new Underpants set is up for pre-order instead. Is this a better or worse thing? You decide.
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Had my first game today in a Path to Glory league with some friends. Frostlord on Stonehorn is a beast.
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