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yr new gurlfrand! posted:would goku choose to stop biosphere collapse if he could he would get bulma to do it once he notices a drop in the population of giant river fish
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Oct 8, 2021 13:37
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Trabisnikof posted:So either we ban discussion to make it easier to remain a climate denier lite, or we have to accept that climate solutions can’t be achieved by Biden or Harris or Pelosi or any of our so called leadership and admit our leaders are climate deniers. they are not climate deniers. most of them are too old, they will be dead before they experience any consequences its not that they dont understand, its that they dont care
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Oct 8, 2021 13:54
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Rutibex posted:they are not climate deniers. most of them are too old, they will be dead before they experience any consequences also for their children and grandchildren they probably figure they have enough money that they'll do fine pelosi is worth like 100m lol (because of her husband)
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Oct 8, 2021 14:59
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I don't want to be a good boy and just adapt. I wanna go around punching people in the face as they exits their cars. I just wanna shout I DID IT FOR THE CLIMATE as they try to figure out what just happened. I know it wouldn't do any difference and it would only be bad for both me and whatever generally innocent person i punched and i won't do it, but goddamn if i don't want to punch that loving rear end in a top hat who lives in a $4m home and drives their 4x4 "pickup" the 500m to pick up their kid from school in literally the safest area in the country. I just really really really want to punch them. I won't. But I want to.
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Oct 8, 2021 15:04
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fanfic insert posted:I don't want to be a good boy and just adapt. I wanna go around punching people in the face as they exits their cars. I just wanna shout I DID IT FOR THE CLIMATE as they try to figure out what just happened. You could always punch yourself in the face like Tyler Durden
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Oct 8, 2021 15:07
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That's what it feels like coming into this thread sometimes so i think I got that covered.
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Oct 8, 2021 15:08
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fanfic insert posted:I don't want to be a good boy and just adapt. I wanna go around punching people in the face as they exits their cars. I just wanna shout I DID IT FOR THE CLIMATE as they try to figure out what just happened. there is only one solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGbgAisf6_c
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Oct 8, 2021 15:14
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Rutibex posted:they are not climate deniers. most of them are too old, they will be dead before they experience any consequences they completely are climate deniers. just because they're going to die doesn't mean that their lies about climate science stop being lies. like if they were openly admitting to just trashing the future, then sure that wouldn't be denialism, but they aren't. they're claiming to solve the climate by building more coal plants.
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Oct 8, 2021 16:45
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Rutibex posted:he would get bulma to do it once he notices a drop in the population of giant river fish it upsets me that we never talk about the outsize CO2 and methane emissions associated with the exponential expansion of matter characteristic of capsule corps products. bulma has a lot to answer for 
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Oct 8, 2021 16:50
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Rutibex posted:there is only one solution Really dislike bananas but work around wealthy homes all the time with a good cover for having fruit on me. This could work.
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Oct 8, 2021 17:00
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perhaps Rime is implying that it has to be systemic destruction of property, the randomized symbolic destruction isn't inherently valuable
Jokerpilled Drudge has issued a correction as of 17:26 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 17:07
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:perhaps Rime is implying that it has to be systemic destruction of property, the randomized symbolic destruction isn't inherently valuable Can we just get like an irc group going or something
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Oct 8, 2021 17:29
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Must be a whole lot of people who genuinely would do this though. I could see Greta becoming a unabananer. Like that American life episode but its the rich kid who crack/pings but breaks through layers of power in liberal democracy cracking and pinging all along the way. Must be a ton of true believers of neoliberal democracies who ends up in the NGO grift circuit and cracks when faces with the inertia and disinterest. I doubt they'll turn to violent stuff once they come to an acceptance, but petty revenge seems to be a(nowadays anyways) hard-coded human response.
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Oct 8, 2021 17:30
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I always think, in contemplating all this stuff of the RATM video where they did the video for Gorilla Radio I think and it was a clandestino concert on wall Street and at the end they scroll "NYSE shut down due to the crowd, no more money was harmed that day" Paraphrasing there but, there is some school of direct action that is sort of just blunt and brute force, but doing asymmetrical things would require smarter solutions. There is some downright rad things the EZLN used to do to governments (basically land line ddos'ing their fax machines with pages of all black so they couldn't communicate with certain down stream parties) ages ago. I think that class of direct action is far better than what is often thought of as direct not non violent action (speaking in terms of property, not people obv)
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Oct 8, 2021 17:38
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Failed Imagineer posted:None of that is necessary because you can just lift people out of poverty and educate them and they start having kids at less than replacement rate Lmao E: sorry I left the post linking across the forums, my bad kaxman has issued a correction as of 22:39 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 17:50
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Turns out the secret to solving biosphere collapse was to bring the rest of the world up to American living standards. The resources and energy necessary to do this is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Oct 8, 2021 17:58
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The secret to saving our already-doomed planet is reproductive rights
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Oct 8, 2021 18:02
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T-Paine posted:The secret to saving our already-doomed planet is reproductive rights what, like completely abolishing them and not allowing another human to be born??? Go on, I'm listening.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:08
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eSports Chaebol posted:i just finished How to Blow Up a Pipeline and it's almost like a D&D-acceptable post that anticipates all objections to make a very simple point that could easily be summarized but requires about 150 pages of context for DECORUM. It's basically just, accepting as a given a liberal perspective, if one diligently applies a liberal perspective, direct action against carbon emissions is justified and even necessary. Put another way, it is NOT a radical book. It is about how blowing up pipelines ISN'T radical and if you reject radicalism and embrace common sense, sabotage is still in many cases the answer Reading it now and I agree. Still good of course.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:28
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A Russian troll farm posted:(approaching a stranger on the street) excuse me, did you know that there's nothing to do, nowhere to go, nothing to be done, and no one to know? *in very rigpa voice* yes
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Oct 8, 2021 18:30
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T-Paine posted:The secret to saving our already-doomed planet is reproductive rights It's actually pretty legit that as soon as women have education and full agency over our bodies we generally dont want to tear our vages open and destroy our bodies. That's why countries with good education and freely available birth control actually drop below replacement population and bolster with immigrants heavily. But we also need to stop making tons of useless loving chotchzies and destroy the concept of cars for personal transportation. And eat less meat. Anyway were hosed because we're not going to stop using fossil fuels ever and people will never give up personal vehicles. lmao.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:30
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eSports Chaebol posted:i just finished How to Blow Up a Pipeline and it's almost like a D&D-acceptable post that anticipates all objections to make a very simple point that could easily be summarized but requires about 150 pages of context for DECORUM. It's basically just, accepting as a given a liberal perspective, if one diligently applies a liberal perspective, direct action against carbon emissions is justified and even necessary. Put another way, it is NOT a radical book. It is about how blowing up pipelines ISN'T radical and if you reject radicalism and embrace common sense, sabotage is still in many cases the answer I went in looking for tips on hacking SCADA and was deeply disappointed!
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Oct 8, 2021 18:40
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IAMKOREA posted:I went in looking for tips on hacking SCADA and was deeply disappointed! It's pretty easy tbh given how loving stupid so many of the repair people are. We had a SCADA network at a previous job of mine and the dipshits who dealt with it would cross usb sticks between live network and SCADA constantly. We had to go yell at them at least every few months when malware would pop from one of the usb sticks.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:43
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T-Paine posted:The secret to saving our already-doomed planet is reproductive rights Depends on what you mean by save and by planet because reproductive rights, universal healthcare, fighting racism, expanding education, labor rights, etc. won't undoom our planet but they are the secret to making life on our doomed planet somewhat less miserable.
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Oct 8, 2021 18:44
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Decades posted:Depends on what you mean by save and by planet because reproductive rights, universal healthcare, fighting racism, expanding education, labor rights, etc. won't undoom our planet but they are the secret to making life on our doomed planet somewhat less miserable. drat it people. I agree with all of this of course, I was
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Oct 8, 2021 19:23
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I feel like this thread could use this video. https://youtu.be/Qc6gVht9CFQ
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Oct 8, 2021 19:39
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Not So Fast posted:I feel like this thread could use this video. gently caress u im not watching that
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Oct 8, 2021 19:40
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https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1446555752433389584
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Oct 8, 2021 21:22
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"It shouldn't be a priority, no matter who is in office."
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Oct 8, 2021 21:34
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The Demilich posted:I've never wanted to wedgie a planet before. You're doing it right now, along with the rest of us 
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Oct 8, 2021 21:41
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SKULL.GIF posted:Turns out the secret to solving biosphere collapse was to bring the rest of the world up to American living standards. The resources and energy necessary to do this is left as an exercise for the reader. Today's Radio Ecoshock episode actually makes a strong case that its not overpopulation which hosed us, per se, but that a certain density of population and lifestyle creates an exponential impact on the surrounding environment. Eg: Five billion people living an American lifestyle would have the effective impact of a population of fifty billion. This was all written back in the 70's so I don't think it's 100% accurate, but there's a case to be made for sure.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:11
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silicone thrills posted:It's actually pretty legit that as soon as women have education and full agency over our bodies we generally dont want to tear our vages open and destroy our bodies. That's why countries with good education and freely available birth control actually drop below replacement population and bolster with immigrants heavily. Yeah, the post just made me instantly think of the newsroom clip. "That would've been great, N years ago. Now...*shrug*" I wish we could do all that stuff for the whole world. We should've done all that stuff for the whole world. I can't envision a path from here to there today, given what's coming.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:34
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lol i listened to that this american life episode and the dude didn’t lose his family because of climate change he lost them because he’s a loving loser. he called his 10 year old daughter a bitch and a oval office because she didn’t clear her climate speech with him. cw: self-harm he drove his older daughter to attempt suicide less because of climate change and more because he was a monster she couldn’t escape and felt trapped by like by all means be a dick about climate change and restrict your family if you want. people can cope with that. he’s just like a terrible dude.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:35
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anyone notice how the news is not really even talking about efforts to stop, stall, or mitigate climate change but instead how to cope with it? We're hyper-hosed!
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Oct 8, 2021 23:22
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T-Paine posted:anyone notice how the news is not really even talking about efforts to stop, stall, or mitigate climate change but instead how to cope with it? We're hyper-hosed!
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Oct 8, 2021 23:26
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T-Paine posted:anyone notice how the news is not really even talking about efforts to stop, stall, or mitigate climate change but instead how to cope with it? We're hyper-hosed! mental health week
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Oct 8, 2021 23:27
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:oh word? I know, what would you do without my observations
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Oct 8, 2021 23:28
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Taking bets on when local evening news is going to tout suicide as a coping mechanism.
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Oct 8, 2021 23:28
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T-Paine posted:anyone notice how the news is not really even talking about efforts to stop, stall, or mitigate climate change but instead how to cope with it? We're hyper-hosed! you new here from the covid thread?
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Oct 8, 2021 23:32
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T-Paine posted:anyone notice how the news is not really even talking about efforts to stop, stall, or mitigate climate change but instead how to cope with it? We're hyper-hosed! it's very mysterious how the moment people who swore publicly that they'd do questionably productive things about the issue gained the actual power to do those things the narrative switched completely anyway I'm sure it's a pure coincidence that all those still unprofitable quarter measures aren't having any attention drawn to them by the corporate media I'm sure they'll start talking about it again before the openly denier other party regains the majority they'd theoretically need to actually stop things from happening
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