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Arglebargle III posted:Someone needs to tell them that rejected sketches from 40 years ago aren't something to brag about. The ferengi are slowly turning into bats
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Thom12255 posted:I'm glad they're shaking things up with a universe-ending threat this season. exactly the first thing I thought lmao
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Oct 9, 2021 19:08
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Azhais posted:The ferengi are slowly turning into bats Too much further and we're gonna end up with Magog
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Oct 9, 2021 19:09
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Man what a great episode of lower decks, I really love the music
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Oct 9, 2021 19:17
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Facebook Aunt posted:I don't know how an undercover vulcan would remain sane for long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMlvTfVMzU
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Oct 9, 2021 19:27
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That reminded me of something I'd noticed in other episodes; often, Chakotay just barrels into rooms like he's going to knock down anyone in his way, and occasionally he actually physically moves people aside rather than go around them. Since that's not really his character, I wonder if it's more how Beltran behaves.
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Oct 9, 2021 19:40
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It's in his character in the first episode where he's totally different, his personality just switches from angry and imposing to totally passive soon after. Maybe Beltran developed his body language from Caretaker.
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Oct 9, 2021 19:42
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Payndz posted:That reminded me of something I'd noticed in other episodes; often, Chakotay just barrels into rooms like he's going to knock down anyone in his way, and occasionally he actually physically moves people aside rather than go around them. Since that's not really his character, I wonder if it's more how Beltran behaves. Probably just Beltran embodying what he thinks Chakotay to be. He was given jack poo poo to work with on paper, and he did his best to elevate the material before he just completely gave up around season 5.
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Oct 9, 2021 19:45
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The Riker maneuver but with people
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Oct 9, 2021 19:46
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Chakotay speed ran from Sisko to Riker.
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MikeJF posted:Hard to judge if the neoCelsior is big May or may not be not so big as her captain, I think, it's hard to tell Payndz posted:That reminded me of something I'd noticed in other episodes; often, Chakotay just barrels into rooms like he's going to knock down anyone in his way, and occasionally he actually physically moves people aside rather than go around them. Since that's not really his character, I wonder if it's more how Beltran behaves. To an extent, that's just a Star Trek thing. Once you notice it, you'll never unsee it: in any corridor walk-and-talk scene, the extras coming the other way always scrunch way to the sides of the hall so the main characters can just keep striding down the middle side by side. (I'm sure other shows do the same thing, but Trek has more corridor scenes than most productions.)
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Thom12255 posted:I'm glad they're shaking things up with a universe-ending threat this season. I mean I sure feel high tension as this unproven captain and unproven crew go out against a big unknown threat. Hah. Imagine if they had done this so much that in previous series they lampshaded it and even in one of the movies talked explicitly about it. https://youtu.be/3ARERrwpNq8 I mean if that was the case it would remove all tension and make it completely banal since there was no escalation of threat ever. Hah Axe-man fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 9, 2021 |
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Oct 9, 2021 19:52
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I like Discovery, but it's really weird how it's impossible to describe. All the other shows can be summed up in a line or two. The only way to describe it is this ship somehow saves the universe about every three months.
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Powered Descent posted:May or may not be not so big as her captain, I think, it's hard to tell Rank has its privileges. *Janeway shoulder-checks an ensign into a bulkhead, who weakly says "ma'am"*
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Oct 9, 2021 19:59
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MikeJF posted:Nah, vulcans always used rings, back to the ENT days. No I mean in real-world time, everything in ENT got designed after TNG and they only came up with the Vulcan design after discarding the rules they had in earlier shows. The_Doctor posted:You need to tell all the Star Wars nerds that for every Ralph McQuarrie concept that shows up in Rebels. McQuarrie drew some really wild stuff, so it's a pretty fertile ground if you need some extra ideas, although there's also a sort of cowardly aspect where if you steal a design from concept art, you can sort of make a bold design decision but just kinda hide behind the fact that it's somebody else's earlier design decision and using their credibility instead of your own. But aside from that, probably more species should have some kind of variability in their alien aspects, that seems fine. Not something big like "oh this one subrace has like a scorpion tail that squirts acid" but just some aesthetic differences.
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Nichael posted:I like Discovery, but it's really weird how it's impossible to describe. All the other shows can be summed up in a line or two. The only way to describe it is this ship somehow saves the universe about every three months. IDK "mary sue star trek" seems pretty easy.
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Oct 9, 2021 20:17
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SlothfulCobra posted:No I mean in real-world time, everything in ENT got designed after TNG and they only came up with the Vulcan design after discarding the rules they had in earlier shows. Oh. Well they are also partly inspired by the T'pau Vulcan transport ships from TNG, which had ring engines even back then. And I think also inspired a bit by the ring shape Enterprise we saw a picture of in TMP, which after ENT is retroactively now assumed to have been Earth trying out Vulcan designs.
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Oct 9, 2021 20:24
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I gotta say, at the moment this looks terrible. Lots of emphasis on characters I don't like while sidelining of the ones I do. It's frustrating to know I'll hatewatch this season and almost certainly find things I do like, but slapped between a mess of things I hate. Oh well, at least there's still one more episode of Lower Decks, then SNW at some point to look forward to.
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Kinda sad that CGI kids' show Star Trek makes me more exited than live action Star Trek
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wait they're using the mushroom drive again? i thought that had implications
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Oct 9, 2021 20:58
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I don’t trust trailers for TV shows. This one was two minutes cut from 14-ish hours of actual runtime, and probably only really just from the first 2-3 hours. This is also honestly a pretty lovely trailer. If there was a hook, I missed it. I like Discovery, so I’m looking forward to more Discovery, but I got nothing from this trailer except “get ready for more Discovery!”. We will get at least one massive threat that the crew needs to solve, there will be some action, everyone who I expected to see in the trailer is there. Hooray, I guess?
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punishedkissinger posted:wait they're using the mushroom drive again? i thought that had implications lol lol at thinking Discovery cares much for internal consistency lol at thinking that Burnham wouldn't just disobey orders and do the thing anyway lol at thinking that her instincts to do whatever random thing won't be 100% right and save the universe at least once per season
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blastron posted:I like Discovery It's okay, you don't have to lie here.
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There are actual Voyager fans it's not surprising people like Discovery as well
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That episode of Lower Decks was the best Trek made since DS9 ended. What a concept.
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I like Discovery when the characters I like are in the same room doing Trek stuff together, but those moments are sometimes hard to find with how little room the plots give the characters to breathe in most episodes
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I know this is petty and I know it's 3 seasons ago now but I think about how Worf quit a mission to save Jadzias life and was told he would probably never get a command, then I look at Captain Mutiny Warcrimes.
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Oct 9, 2021 21:40
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That Discovery trailer... you would think the writers could figure out something other than yet another galactic level threat. But I guess once you open that door they don't feel they can't back down? I think what drives me most crazy is I like all of the actors and characters. If the show just had better writing. Whatever, I'll watch it (same with Picard) because I am stupid and glutton for punishment. Lower Decks on the other hand continues to be amazing. Easily a top 3 Trek for me at this point. I just wish the seasons were longer, since I want more than 10 episodes per year.
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punishedkissinger posted:wait they're using the mushroom drive again? i thought that had implications Not that I remember, other than maybe that bit in Season 2 with Tilly's ghost friend or whatever it was that lives in mushroom space, which was resolved when they pulled Culber out I think, or maybe its impact on Stamets as the living navcom, which fancy futuretech has helped with a little, plus there's that other guy stepping in as a backup, I guess. They probably left any other dangers back in the 23rd century and Starfleet wiped the records anyway. Also the rest of the post-Burn fleet is pretty limited in warp capability which makes the shroom drive kinda necessary.
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Screaming_Gremlin posted:Lower Decks on the other hand continues to be amazing. Easily a top 3 Trek for me at this point. Yeah I agree. Like DS9, it really requires you to have seen TNG for it to be fully appreciated for what it is, but it's extremely entertaining and much more consistently so than VOY or ENT (or certainly any of the other newer stuff)
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Is discovery really canon anymore? They made motions towards it in the first season but now it just feels like Andromeda or some other off-brand story.
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The Bloop posted:Yeah I agree.
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FlamingLiberal posted:There have also been a lot of TAS references in LD LD is doing God's work to further canonize TAS
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Arglebargle III posted:Is discovery really canon anymore? They made motions towards it in the first season but now it just feels like Andromeda or some other off-brand story. I find it hard to believe that season 3 onward won't be undone in the canon somehow. Knowing that the burn will happen and undo most of the federation's progress really fucks up any future series imo.
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I just want to join in on the internet outrage about how they just HAD to change the way Ferengi look.
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MillennialVulcan posted:I know this is petty and I know it's 3 seasons ago now but I think about how Worf quit a mission to save Jadzias life and was told he would probably never get a command, then I look at Captain Mutiny War crimes. Burnham as captain legitimately makes me angry. She's like the antithesis of Starfleet and the Federation. Selfish, secretive, works EXTREMELY poorly with others, endangers the crew frequently with half cocked plans that only work because the plot demands it. And everyone just falls over themselves to espouse their unending love for her. Saru, while not a great captain is just orders of magnitude better.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Burnham as captain legitimately makes me angry. She's like the antithesis of Starfleet and the Federation. Selfish, secretive, works EXTREMELY poorly with others, endangers the crew frequently with half cocked plans that only work because the plot demands it. And everyone just falls over themselves to espouse their unending love for her. And while Tilly was incredibly annoying for S1 and S2, in S3 she got given an actual coherent story arc towards being a good leader and ready to be captain. And then it gets tossed away.
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I've given disco three seasons but I think this is where it loses me. A chance to leisurely explore a wild new setting for a franchise now that you've finally wrapped up the big galactic crisis??? NOPE ON TO THE NEXT CRISIS, it's always red alert on SS Disco
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I don't like Tilly, but as a captain she's got one thing up on Burnham by not being a serial mutineer. I suppose Burnham can't mutiny if she's the captain, so that's one way to stop her.
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