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JordanKai posted:The shinespark puzzle in the secret area in Burenia is one of the most unintuitive things I've ever encountered in a Metroid game. It was really hard to find, too. Unless you already know that Shinesparking into an incline allows you to start running again and this prolong your speed boost (it’s been that way since Fusion) I could understand that puzzle being confusing. You’re never explicitly told that in any of the games!
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:i mean that was adam's shtick in fusion talking about the SA-X too so it barely seemed out of place oddly enough, that was misdirection as well because Adam was getting told by the Feds to say poo poo like that to Samus, to stop her from damaging the SA-X’s too much
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Oct 10, 2021 17:13
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Regarding plot/end stuff: I'm guessing Ravens Beak is also responsible for the ~mysterious~ X parasite video that kicks off the game, and possibly posting the unusually small bounty as well, because he knows that Samus will immediately come running but nobody else will. Then Samus accidentally releases them because Raven Beak gave her Chozo DNA and the X possess him at the end. Irony!
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Oct 10, 2021 17:16
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TaurusOxford posted:loving LUL Kotaku: Yeah, great job Kotaku. In one article point a giant flashing neon "LOOK HERE, FAMOUSLY LITIGIOUS COMPANY" sign at things that would help with game preservation in years to come, AND manage to encourage piracy of a brand new game in a series that traditionally has gone years if not decades between releases due to its' niche nature! Lotta capital G Gamers sticking up for their rights to steal stuff there too. Ugh.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:22
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:Regarding plot/end stuff: I'm guessing Ravens Beak is also responsible for the ~mysterious~ X parasite video that kicks off the game, and possibly posting the unusually small bounty as well, because he knows that Samus will immediately come running but nobody else will. Yes, 100% on the first point. It's basically spelled out by Silent Cloak saying that with all the Metroids dead, Samus is the only source of Metroid DNA that Raven needs. Other thoughts on plot and stuff: (Spoilers for the whole game) It took me a bit to realize Samus absorbing the Silent Cloak X made the metroid suit go away because Silent is from the tribe/has the ability to control Metroids. Kraid is probably not THE Kraid, but A Kraid, or a Kraid clone. Ravens Beak/the warrior tribe probably had it cause it could be used as a weapon. I generally appreciate we get a Kraid reprisal and are spared a Ridley fight, but almost can't help but headcanon that Ravens Beak decided a Ridley clone wasn't worth having. (Or maybe is responsible for why Ridley came back so many times in the first place.) Mechanically, I'm not hot on the EMMI. They were alright the first few encounters, but were just kinda annoying/frustrating by the White and Purple ones. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Oct 10, 2021 17:28
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Orange Crush Rush posted:oddly enough, that was misdirection as well because Adam was getting told by the Feds to say poo poo like that to Samus, to stop her from damaging the SA-X’s too much eventually yes, but the early game stuff that's "just run, don't fight, don't look, just fuckin run" isn't because the feds are trickling powerups, it's because you're just legitimately that underpowered and screwed if you get caught
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Oct 10, 2021 17:28
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Game and series plot spoilers: Geeze, Samus just keeps collecting dads like she does suit upgrades. She's up to three bio-dads (Rodney, Grey Voice, and Raven Beak) and atleast one adoptive dad (Old Bird, arguably Adam as a father-figure). I like that most shinespark puzzles have multiple solutions.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:30
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Regy Rusty posted:It's Adam while you're on the ship and then Raven Beak the whole rest of the time. Uploading data to the computers never actually connected Samus back to the ship, Raven Beak was intercepting everything. I like how Samus’s response to this revelation is to just silently blow the poo poo out of the computer room
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Oct 10, 2021 17:39
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Vintersorg posted:
Just got to this boss and lmfao he’s a pain in the rear end.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:42
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All too real!
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raditts posted:God damnit that's the only attack I didn't try using, I'm going to kick his loving rear end when I get up tomorrow morning Woke up and beat his rear end. Promises made, promises kept.  snoremac posted:At a loss here. Where do you go after getting grapple beam? I've been everywhere I can conceivably reach. Figuring out where to go next can be a bit obtuse sometimes, I know I spent a few hours wandering around trying to find the next area, but remember that Adam keeps telling you to keep moving towards the surface for a reason. raditts fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Oct 10, 2021 17:42
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the power ups seem awkwardly paced compared to other Metroid games. I’ve just gotten three back to back, probably less than three rooms apart, which is even weirder after the drought in the game’s first hour or so
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Oct 10, 2021 17:43
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Oxxidation posted:the power ups seem awkwardly paced compared to other Metroid games. I’ve just gotten three back to back, probably less than three rooms apart, which is even weirder after the drought in the game’s first hour or so I feel like they're pretty regularly spaced with one large exception from grapple beam to super missiles, it's just a question of if you click onto the path the game wants you to take or start backtracking in an unintended direction (with anything involving underwater jumping upgrades being a frequent pain point since A. You have to backtrack after getting space jump and B. if you don't recall/notice the indicators that don't correspond to map marks it's easy to overshoot and keep backtracking too far Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Oct 10, 2021 17:49
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I don't want a remake of super metroid, but I do want a game with the same design philosophy of super metroid. Let the player explore at their leisure, keep one-way paths at a minimum, except of course for tutorializing the new powerups you get, and have the main purpose of the game to hunt down a bounty on your own, not at the federation's bidding.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:49
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Oxxidation posted:the power ups seem awkwardly paced compared to other Metroid games. I’ve just gotten three back to back, probably less than three rooms apart, which is even weirder after the drought in the game’s first hour or so There's also some real oddballs too - Like the double jump being not long before you just get the space jump? And the Cross bomb in general feels a bit odd, particularly with how late as it is. I'm also really curious the percentage of players who end up with at least one early powerbomb.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:50
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I don't want a remake of super metroid, but I do want a game with the same design philosophy of super metroid. Let the player explore at their leisure, keep one-way paths at a minimum, except of course for tutorializing the new powerups you get, and have the main purpose of the game to hunt down a bounty on your own, not at the federation's bidding. Agreed I liked that vibe more
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Oct 10, 2021 17:51
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There've been a couple open world games in recent memory that have toggle of "low waypoint" vs "maximum handholding", I wonder if something like that could be applied
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Oct 10, 2021 17:54
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How in the hell do I get these speed blocks 
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Oct 10, 2021 17:56
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Oxyclean posted:There's also some real oddballs too - Like the double jump being not long before you just get the space jump? And the Cross bomb in general feels a bit odd, particularly with how late as it is. ...Turns out, it was I, I was the one.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:00
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Frankston posted:How in the hell do I get these speed blocks If its the spot I'm thinking of, there's a big room to the right, and across that room is a long hallway with a single beam block placed in the wall. Get into that slot and do a ballspark to the left.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:05
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Oxyclean posted:If its the spot I'm thinking of, there's a big room to the right, and across that room is a long hallway with a single beam block placed in the wall. Get into that slot and do a ballspark to the left. Thanks. Next question, what the gently caress is a ballspark and how do I do it
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Oct 10, 2021 18:08
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I had at least 3 powerbomb expansions before getting the powerbombs. I didn't even feel like I sequence broke anything; I just kept getting lost. Beat the final boss on my first try this morning. Powerbombing the sun attack made the final phase comparably trivial. I ended the fight with several every tanks left. Was not expecting the Metroid Suit to look like Super Shredder so I laughed my rear end off during the escape sequence. Honestly, great game. I'd place it just under Super and just over Fusion, which is very high praise. I was a little worried because I found Samus Returns to be lackluster. I really hope it does well enough that Metroid becomes a regular series after all these years.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:10
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Frankston posted:Thanks. Next question, what the gently caress is a ballspark and how do I do it When you have a spark stocked, you can go into morph ball and shinespark as that, letting you zoom into one tile gaps.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:13
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I didn’t really find most of the bosses to be that difficult aside from the last two  they have pretty simple patterns to learn and telegraph their attacks a lot Oxyclean posted:I'm also really curious the percentage of players who end up with at least one early powerbomb. people were calling this a sequence break but I’m 99% sure you’re meant to find those, the first one I found was in a fairly obvious location
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Finished up my first 100% playthrough with a time of 9:08:23, and I gotta say... This is my favorite 2D Metroid, hands down. Everything just clicked for me the whole way through, the atmosphere was fantastic, the story was engaging enough to keep my interest, the bosses were fun and challenging, controls were on point, I even did every dumb shinespark puzzle when before I hated them in Fusion and ZM. I'm so happy this game turned out so loving great after all this time away, definitely looking forward to what comes next.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:19
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I think I also found about three powerbomb upgrades before I got the actual item.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:26
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Augus posted:people were calling this a sequence break but I’m 99% sure you’re meant to find those, the first one I found was in a fairly obvious location There's some that you need to be a bit more clever to get, or you can get even earlier, like I think I abused a wall jump or made an awkward jump to get to one fairly early? But I could have just as easily come back with space jump or some other powers and still have gotten it early. It's definitely not a traditional sequence break to get them early. I want to say I maybe had 4 before I got the real version?
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Oct 10, 2021 18:29
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Am I supposed to not get anything after beating Drogyga?
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Oct 10, 2021 18:33
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Calaveron posted:Am I supposed to not get anything after beating Drogyga? Nope. You'll get your next power-up pretty early into the following area instead.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:43
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Does anyone else think free aim should've been on R and missiles on L or Lz i just got the grapple beam (are we bothering to spoil these?) and the controls for it are a touch awkward to me (e) BisbyWorl posted:When you have a spark stocked, you can go into morph ball and shinespark as that, letting you zoom into one tile gaps. i noticed that if you shineball into a ramp you go into speed-ball; is there any way to get back into shinespark-readiness or at least running boost from there?
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Oct 10, 2021 18:51
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wahay, quote and edit buttons, woo
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Oct 10, 2021 18:52
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Ciaphas posted:Does anyone else think free aim should've been on R and missiles on L or Lz You could probably stand up, run back, then spark into the same ramp to get back into speed booster.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:57
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you can unmorph and shine, there's one pickup where doing this isn't mandatory but i think it's the easier and intended way if you do
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Oct 10, 2021 18:59
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TaurusOxford posted:loving LUL Kotaku: get their rear end nintendo
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Oct 10, 2021 19:04
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:get their rear end nintendo Lol at cheerleading billion dollar companies.
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J Detan posted:Yeah, great job Kotaku. In one article point a giant flashing neon "LOOK HERE, FAMOUSLY LITIGIOUS COMPANY" sign at things that would help with game preservation in years to come, AND manage to encourage piracy of a brand new game in a series that traditionally has gone years if not decades between releases due to its' niche nature!
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Oct 10, 2021 19:06
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Vintersorg posted:Lol at cheerleading billion dollar companies. i would fight and die for nintendo's honor but that isnt the point. the point is that it would be very funny if nintendo destroyed kotaku with a screw attack
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Oct 10, 2021 19:15
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but seriously lol at posting that article when the company involved is one of the most litigious game publishers in the world who take people to court over websites hosting decades old roms and thinking you won't get an angry letter from the nintendo lawyers about it
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Oct 10, 2021 19:16
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I do agree it’d be funny tho. Gamer news is dumb as hell and serves no purpose. I’d rather be fooled like back in the Nintendo Power days then the blatant paid mouth pieces.
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Oct 10, 2021 19:21
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Vintersorg posted:I do agree it’d be funny tho. Gamer news is dumb as hell and serves no purpose. Nintendo power actually provided value though in the form of fairly high-quality maps in the pre-internet days. Plus their commentary on the game and tips from people who had actually played the game and perhaps were actually fairly knowledgeable about the game.
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nintendo power also had cool as hell pull out posters while kotaku is just lovely click bait with no pull out posters
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