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im totally fine with capitalists like my dad sponsoring left wing organizations
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Oct 10, 2021 21:40
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https://peoplesforum.org/event/book-talk-we-cry-justice-reading-the-bible-with-the-poor-peoples-campaign/quote:From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible proclaims justice and abundance for the poor. Yet these powerful passages about poverty are frequently overlooked and misinterpreted. and this sounds good i think
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Oct 10, 2021 21:45
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The Bolsheviks had sugar daddies too. But this person is a loony so I think they'd just say that proves their point. https://twitter.com/Marusya_161/status/1446940815981432839
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Oct 10, 2021 22:01
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where do y'all think the support for communism is supposed to come from, thin loving air? the whole drat point is to take money from capitalists and redirect it towards non-capitalist ends, it doesn't matter how you get it or where you get it from, just that you do get it and do something non-profit related with it.
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Oct 10, 2021 22:10
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splifyphus posted:where do y'all think the support for communism is supposed to come from, thin loving air? the whole drat point is to take money from capitalists and redirect it towards non-capitalist ends, it doesn't matter how you get it or where you get it from, just that you do get it and do something non-profit related with it.
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Oct 10, 2021 22:38
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"US finance and the CPC are still allied" posts are giving me flashbacks to the arguments that "the US and Assad are allies" from the the height of the Syrian War
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Oct 10, 2021 22:51
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gradenko_2000 posted:AD&D: Marx the analogy i like is: 3/3.5e: the tsardom. brutal, grinding inequality 4e: the soviet union. a genuine attempt at justice. inherited a lot of warts and inefficiencies from its forebears but was an incredible success given conditions 5e: the modern russian federation. a crushing blow to human dignity and conscious rejection of progress, but at least you get blue jeans and pizza hut mike mearls is nikita kruschev. monte cook is leon trotsky Ferrinus has issued a correction as of 23:22 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Oct 10, 2021 23:20
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splifyphus posted:where do y'all think the support for communism is supposed to come from, thin loving air? the whole drat point is to take money from capitalists and redirect it towards non-capitalist ends, it doesn't matter how you get it or where you get it from, just that you do get it and do something non-profit related with it.
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Oct 10, 2021 23:26
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i like zizek less nowadays but i'll always appreciate this quote of this: We live in brutal capitalism, and instead of paying for it, we should brutally use it. The problem isn't some idiot in power giving you money. Take the money! Take the money! But take it without moralistic feelings of guilt. The next day, kill him, and if he says "But I gave you money," tell him, "You idiot, why did you give me the money?"
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Oct 10, 2021 23:28
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although a lot of discourse about donations and tainted money or whatever is misguided in itself because people like to talk as though evil people's money has a glowing evil aura and once you touch it your eyes turn red and now you're evil too. during the 2016 presidential primary hillary clinton bragged that she had NEVER changed a political position on the basis of a donation, and while that's probably not literally true i'm sure it IS basically accurate because funding and donations aren't for changing people's minds, they're for making sure the people already on your side beat out the people who aren't. there are endless prospective politicians and think tanks and professors and interns or whatever. you don't need to find the good ones and turn them evil because you can just reward the evil ones and ensure that the overton window is locked 100% onto evil because of the forces of natural selection. in fact straits are dire enough and good jobs rare enough that people will be falling over themselves and clawing savagely at each other, competing to see who produce the tightest, catchiest regime change propaganda in exchange for fifty bucks and a byline. people put serious work into this poo poo, they don't need to be cajoled if some person or org is getting notable donations, that's cause for interest because it might mean they are already advancing the ends of wherever that money's coming from. but the way individuals spend their money isn't as coherent or dispositive of anything as the way organizations spend their money. that one guy who runs thoughtworks giving you money is not the same as the NED giving you money because a single person could believe or want basically any insane thing imaginable but an institution is playing with much bigger table stakes and under many more material pressures, sources of oversight, etc
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Oct 10, 2021 23:38
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Ferrinus posted:the analogy i like is: That's quite close to what my frame of mind was, yes. 4e as Stalin: everyone says it's really bad and a complete betrayal of basic principles, but anyone who spends enough time in the community ends up agreeing that it was completely right in the end
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Oct 11, 2021 00:04
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splifyphus posted:where do y'all think the support for communism is supposed to come from, thin loving air? the whole drat point is to take money from capitalists and redirect it towards non-capitalist ends, it doesn't matter how you get it or where you get it from, just that you do get it and do something non-profit related with it.
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Oct 11, 2021 02:38
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Ferrinus posted:i like zizek less nowadays but i'll always appreciate this quote of this: it's one of his best it's a genuinely underappreciated factor of his. Zizek blasting that the left cannot prosper under liberal moralism is a fundamental contribution
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Oct 11, 2021 05:33
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Zedhe Khoja posted:The Bolsheviks had sugar daddies too. But this person is a loony so I think they'd just say that proves their point. https://twitter.com/Marusya_161/status/1447276043740528642 Watch out, we've got a badass over here
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Oct 11, 2021 20:12
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the polycule doesn’t believe in violence, exercising power is authoritarian
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Oct 11, 2021 20:14
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Kaedric posted:https://twitter.com/Marusya_161/status/1447276043740528642 It is the 20s though?
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Oct 12, 2021 00:44
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Atrocious Joe posted:"US finance and the CPC are still allied" posts are giving me flashbacks to the arguments that "the US and Assad are allies" from the the height of the Syrian War US was on like 17 of the 2 sides
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Oct 12, 2021 02:40
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evilpicard posted:US was on like 17 of the 2 sides in a way, the US really is the natural successor of Nazi Germany. each individual part of the military-industrial-intelligence complex has its own desires, influence and st operation, and is in constant competition with all other elements. the army backs Shiite militias that fight cia-backed Sunni groups, all the while causing a global and regional destabilization in turn justifies the perpetually expanding, oversightless budgets
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Oct 12, 2021 12:53
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the US empire is nazi social Darwinism with a human face
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Oct 12, 2021 12:53
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a claim that also logicall follows from Adorno and Horkheimers analysis of how the enlightenment and capitalism provide the necessary conditions for fascism and nazism, how to a certain extent capitalism already is fascist
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Oct 12, 2021 12:58
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oscarthewilde posted:a claim that also logicall follows from Adorno and Horkheimers analysis of how the enlightenment and capitalism provide the necessary conditions for fascism and nazism, how to a certain extent capitalism already is fascist Ishay Landa's book The Apprentice's Sorcerer is really good for this too, about how fascism is very much an outgrowth of the liberal tradition. So is Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History actually
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Oct 12, 2021 13:06
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https://twitter.com/GramsciFag/status/1447918115564761100
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Oct 12, 2021 15:26
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Oct 12, 2021 16:08
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oscarthewilde posted:a claim that also logicall follows from Adorno and Horkheimers analysis of how the enlightenment and capitalism provide the necessary conditions for fascism and nazism, how to a certain extent capitalism already is fascist aime cesaire makes this point too in discourse on colonialism
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Oct 12, 2021 16:08
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tag yourselves, I am Juche
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Oct 12, 2021 16:10
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had no fuckin idea that Titoism split
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Oct 12, 2021 17:31
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/its-an-allegory-nkorea-website-says-squid-game-reflects-skoreas-beastly-society-2021-10-12/ DPRK is right
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Oct 12, 2021 17:53
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Zedhe Khoja posted:The Bolsheviks had sugar daddies too. But this person is a loony so I think they'd just say that proves their point. lol @ psl, but also lol
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Oct 12, 2021 20:22
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The tupamaros had one of the best slogans about all this "posting is praxis" or whatever. "Words divide us, action unites us". The reason why leftist infighting is such a problem, not ignoring COINTELPRO and all that, is because we all have these passionate beliefs and no real way to bring them about. There's unions and political parties, but anytime they start getting radical at all the full force of the mass media and police forces will be used against them. A revolution needs momentum.
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Oct 12, 2021 20:53
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can’t it be all three?
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Oct 12, 2021 22:02
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AnimeIsTrash posted:tag yourselves, I am Juche can't. too disappointed that the best branch, agrarian socialism, has no branches and is loving spelt wrong
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Oct 13, 2021 00:12
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AnimeIsTrash posted:tag yourselves, I am Juche I'm fabianism
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Oct 13, 2021 15:14
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celtic socialist nationalism is not a thing
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Oct 13, 2021 15:23
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Slider posted:I'm fabianism we know
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Oct 13, 2021 15:36
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AnimeIsTrash posted:tag yourselves, I am Juche
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Oct 13, 2021 15:37
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Southpaugh posted:celtic socialist nationalism is not a thing it might be the weird agrainian Czech party of the interwar era
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Oct 13, 2021 15:49
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gradenko_2000 posted:That's quite close to what my frame of mind was, yes. it demystified the game a lot, especially poo poo like wizards being broken at high levels because they suck at low levels but they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and learned to code like the famous wizard, horatio alger. i do kind of agree they could have been a lot less structuralist with things like "power sources," though. i liked what they were doing, but a lot of it felt a little like it was designed to be easy to shovel out product for and this accidentally made it too easy for fans to produce balanced content for on their own. like a friend asked me to help him out with dming once so i just fired up the webtool and made an appropriate encounter with a cool theme and it worked out well. no experience to speak of dming or anything. Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Oct 13, 2021 |
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Oct 13, 2021 15:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOOT4Yl6gUg Enjoy some Roseanne Barr interviewing Parenti.
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Oct 14, 2021 20:24
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:I mean, from a purely material perspective the Catholic church was a marginal balancing factor in that it absorbed excess wealth from the ruling class while not really giving it directly back, a massive movement of productive capital (land) out of private hands. Thinking about this quote and figured this was the best thread to ask in. Does anyone know of a book that explores the movement of capital between the 1st and 2nd estates during the transition from feudalism to capitalism?
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Oct 15, 2021 08:34
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this sort of chart is dangerous because its spawns 25 year olds on twitter identifying as 'deleonist' because they just discovered politics existed 4 months ago. theres only 1 real one on here anyway
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Oct 15, 2021 08:42
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