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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Is the John French Fabius Bile series any good? I see it quoted by Reddit fairly often, but I’ve been bitten by their references (and French’s books) before haha. I've only read the first one and I found it okay. Not top tier, but a pretty good read.
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D-Pad posted:Fabius Bile is Josh Reynolds not French. It is well liked. Worth a read IMO. Counterpoint, it isn't worth the time.
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Oct 11, 2021 20:13
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I've enjoyed it but it also feels very like a series that wants to do something big and astounding with the universe and is probably not going to be creative enough to do so within present continuity. If Abnett didn't have such a strong track record I'd say the same thing of the Bequin trilogy but he's proved enough that I can see him pulling something off without 'it was all a dream' being the outcome.
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Oct 11, 2021 21:40
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Fabius Bile trilogy is fine, just don't expect any kind of metaplot to happen.
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Oct 11, 2021 22:05
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Fabius Bile trilogy is good. Horusian Wars might be, but it was unlistenable on Audiobook as there was a whole ton of rapid changing between similar characters in the back half with little or no emphasis as to when the switch was happening. Made it an absolute chore to listen to and keep track of what was going on with who. Worst book I've listened to for that since Scalzi's Redshirts. Could be fine on paper/kindle. 
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Oct 11, 2021 23:06
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So what's the worst 40k book we've all read? Mine... Iron Warriors vs Orks, not a single likable character and the author has no idea how long a km is.
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Oct 11, 2021 23:27
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Yeah, that one is trash. You're just wishing the Orks would hurry up and win already the whole time. It's extra weird because C.L. Werner's early 00s Fantasy novels were really good.
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Oct 11, 2021 23:58
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What are the best Blood Angels books? I've fallen in love with them after reading most of Fear to Tread, but I don't know anything about their 40k stuff.
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Oct 12, 2021 00:53
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I really enjoyed Devastation of Baal. Dante is good as well and iirc takes place just before devastation. Haven't read much else that are focused on BA.
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Oct 12, 2021 01:11
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Ego-bot posted:So what's the worst 40k book we've all read? Mine... Like "X is a kilometer away!" - "Damnation, that'll take hours to cover with no obstacles or resistance and in our fastest vehicle!" or the other way around?
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Oct 12, 2021 05:36
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:What are the best Blood Angels books? I've fallen in love with them after reading most of Fear to Tread, but I don't know anything about their 40k stuff. I'd definitely recommend Dante. I've never liked the Blood Angels' angsty Anne Rice emo vampire bullshit, but Dante takes you from an aspirant rising through the ranks all the way to the very top and it handles the emo stuff really well and has a surprising amount of humour in it. I'm reading Devastation of Baal, but if I'm honest I'm finding it a slog. I don't enjoy long, drawn out battle scenes and the 'nids are always boring enemies, plus the side plot of librarians suddenly having to go and do some ritual to stop Ka'Bandha from materialising on Baal felt tacked on and came out of nowhere. I did like the gathering of the successor chapters though, but I'd definitely read Dante beforehand. I'll finish it soon, but I just don't have the patience for pages of descriptions of battles 
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Oct 12, 2021 07:18
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MariusLecter posted:Like "X is a kilometer away!" - "Damnation, that'll take hours to cover with no obstacles or resistance and in our fastest vehicle!" or the other way around? There's a massive Ork invasion going on and the Iron Warriors and their troops are defending a wall. A crazy obliterator slaughters all of his own troops and defends a 2.5km section by himself. That seems like a lot of ground to cover. There's another scene where some slaves are running away from an Iron Warriors and he picks them off with his bolt pistol from about 1km away. I may be misremembering this because its been 9 years since I read it. One human character discovers that the Iron Warriors are grinding up all the dead to feed to the slaves and is overcome with disgust. Motherfucker, do you not know who you work for? You should have figured this out already. Dog_Meat posted:I'm reading Devastation of Baal, but if I'm honest I'm finding it a slog. I don't enjoy long, drawn out battle scenes and the 'nids are always boring enemies, plus the side plot of librarians suddenly having to go and do some ritual to stop Ka'Bandha from materialising on Baal felt tacked on and came out of nowhere. I did like the gathering of the successor chapters though, but I'd definitely read Dante beforehand. Seth is the real star of the book.
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Oct 12, 2021 09:34
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one of the imperium's primary food sources is recycled bodies so that's extra funny.
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Oct 12, 2021 09:42
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Ego-bot posted:So what's the worst 40k book we've all read? Mine... Of all the warhammer garbage I've read over the years, this one takes the spot:  After 17 years, I'm still salty I bought this piece of crap. Let's say that McNeill at its best can be a somewhat decent writer, but when he's not good, he's horrifing.
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Oct 12, 2021 09:48
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Angry Lobster posted:
I had the Ultramarines omnibus. The first two were your standard, generic as hell bolter trash - but that third book... maaaaan. It was like someone had spiked my drink. My memory is hazy, but it literally felt like the story begins and a chaos train literally appears out of nowhere and says "no time to explain, get in" and then batshit fuckery happens. From the guy that brought you Fulgrim (flawed, but ambitious and a good read) and The Reflection Crack'd (gently caress my previous story, I'm a gonna stick a buttplug up a primarch's rear end, lol)
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Oct 12, 2021 10:22
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Working my way through Warhawk at the moment- super enjoyable so far, and Im not ashamed to admit that I laughed at Chris Wraight spending almost a whole page slagging off the Leman Russ tank- its exposed tracks, the huge vertical armour plates, the high profile, how difficult it was to evacuate and so on.
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Oct 12, 2021 11:54
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Dog_Meat posted:I had the Ultramarines omnibus. The first two were your standard, generic as hell bolter trash - but that third book... maaaaan. It was like someone had spiked my drink. My memory is hazy, but it literally felt like the story begins and a chaos train literally appears out of nowhere and says "no time to explain, get in" and then batshit fuckery happens. Yeah, the warp train is the best worst plot device ever.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:53
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Angry Lobster posted:Yeah, the warp train is the best worst plot device ever. I literally binned my copy of the omnibus (wish I hadn't now, given GW prices) - but I honestly can't remember the set up. Why did a chaos train turn up? In my memory it was literally two Ultramarines chilling on one of the 500 worlds when a train rocks up and they're like "we have to go". Someone remind me what lead to this! (but don't remind me about the chaos marine creation process or the mutant primarch thing)
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Oct 12, 2021 16:00
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The only McNeill Ive read is Forges of Mars and I loved it, is the other stuff that much worse or am I just broken?
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Oct 12, 2021 16:13
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Rugikiki posted:The only McNeill Ive read is Forges of Mars and I loved it, is the other stuff that much worse or am I just broken? Not read that one, but like another poster said - McNeill will surprise you one minute and then make you wonder WTF you just read the next
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Oct 12, 2021 17:16
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Rugikiki posted:The only McNeill I’ve read is Forges of Mars and I loved it, is the other stuff that much worse or am I just broken? He is very uneven and has some bad habits that don't become obvious until you've read a few of his books. Lots of characters with basically the exact same voice and almost every chapter ending with some kind of one-liner took me a couple books to notice, for example
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Oct 12, 2021 17:34
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Saturnine is truly great, in my opinion 10/10 and one of abnetts strongest books. In the context of the SOT it feels like and then more stuff happened but the actual quality of the prose, the craft, is head and shoulders above most BL writers and even Abnetts earlier work. Its genuinely moving.
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Oct 12, 2021 17:39
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Rugikiki posted:The only McNeill Ive read is Forges of Mars and I loved it, is the other stuff that much worse or am I just broken? Forges of Mars is his best work. The rest is often uneven. I give him a lot of respect because he's kind of responsible for there being a Black Library imprint at all, but yeah Chris Wraight is as prolific as McNeil while being quality every time.
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Oct 12, 2021 19:32
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Saturnine is truly great, in my opinion 10/10 and one of abnetts strongest books. In the context of the SOT it feels like and then more stuff happened but the actual quality of the prose, the craft, is head and shoulders above most BL writers and even Abnetts earlier work. Its genuinely moving. I'm not one of these loving reddit nerds that gushes how a book or game or something changed my life for karma but the Camba Diaz bridge scene was absolutely mindblowing.
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ed balls balls man posted:I'm not one of these loving reddit nerds that gushes how a book or game or something changed my life for karma but the Camba Diaz bridge scene was absolutely mindblowing. Yeah, I've said it in here before but the way the sentence length and structure mirrors the fight in that the sentences get shorter and shorter until they are just one or two adjectives as the fighting gets more desperate is loving brilliant and put me on the edge of my seat in a way other combat scenes never have.
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That book just has so many standout moments that, in any other book, would be the climactic centerpiece. Off the top of my head: Camba-Diaz on the bridge Abaddon fighting underground Dorn vs. Fulgrim on the wall Olly Piers vs. Angron Jenetia Krole vs. the entire XII legion Sprinkled in with moments of humor (Basilio Fo) terror (Shibans fall) and genuine pathos (Joseph Baako Monday and Willem Kordy). Its an absolute masterpiece of a book.
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Oct 12, 2021 20:02
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Dog_Meat posted:I literally binned my copy of the omnibus (wish I hadn't now, given GW prices) - but I honestly can't remember the set up. Why did a chaos train turn up? In my memory it was literally two Ultramarines chilling on one of the 500 worlds when a train rocks up and they're like "we have to go". Someone remind me what lead to this! They were just banished from Ultramar on a penitent crusade and they were just leaving on a ship when suddenly the Chaos Express shows up, snatches them up and drops them on a random world in the Eye of Terror. Why did this happen? If I recall correctly, no apparent reason or explanation was given, so basically a plot device to move the characters to the place they need to be. To be fair, it's basically the common sci-fi trope " the ship falls through a portal/wormhole and appears in the other side of the galaxy", just more hamfisted and terribly executed.
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Oct 12, 2021 20:12
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I don't think I've chuckled while reading a 40K book as much as I have while reading The Infinite and the Divine. Necrons loving rule.
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Oct 12, 2021 22:46
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Finally snagged a decently priced copy of Curze. My primarch collection is almost complete, I just can't for the life of me find a sanely priced Angron, Guilliman, or Russ 😩
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Oct 13, 2021 01:23
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Jenetia Krole vs. the entire XII legion I loved this scene. Saturnine spoilers: quote:And I think my story ends here too. Soon.
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Oct 13, 2021 09:30
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Ego-bot posted:I loved this scene. And the bit directly after, where Khârn's like "huh, my kill count just went up by one, I don't remember killing someone just now? Oh well, back to killing"
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Oct 13, 2021 10:06
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:And the bit directly after, where Khârn's like "huh, my kill count just went up by one, I don't remember killing someone just now? Oh well, back to killing" That was amazing. It was somehow hilarious and poignant. God, Dan Abnett is a master
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Oct 13, 2021 12:33
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euphronius posted:Im trying to slog through the Solar War . Its so boring and jumps around way too much So far it's been the best of the series, IMO. The jumping around is what every book in the series does, they went with a GoT type layout for the series. I'm really slogging through Mortis tho. It might be the "Descent of Angels" of the series. I might not make it to Warhawk.
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Philthy posted:So far it's been the best of the series, IMO. The jumping around is what every book in the series does, they went with a GoT type layout for the series. Yeah Im glad I skipped. Every page of saturnine is a delight. The long rear end spoilers on Reddit were enough background.
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Oct 13, 2021 13:33
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Mortis has the best cover art they have done in a long time. Most of the SOT covers are great but that one in particular owns . It reminds me of 40k art from like 15 years ago 
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Oct 13, 2021 13:37
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Just wish they didn't have the guardsmen in 40k standard Cadian armor. I liked how they initially had 18th/19th century looking greatcoat uniforms, contrasted nicely with the setting's present.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:35
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Are the void shields timed to allow the titan to shoot out of them ?
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Oct 13, 2021 14:37
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euphronius posted:Are the void shields timed to allow the titan to shoot out of them ? They're timed and sectioned, I believe.
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euphronius posted:Mortis has the best cover art they have done in a long time. Most of the SOT covers are great but that one in particular owns . It reminds me of 40k art from like 15 years ago The kid in me couldnt wait to get to this book because of the awesome artwork. Saturine was very good, but still a big fan of Solar War because I thought the grand strategy of taking the system with some good ship to ship warfare that beat most non-40k milsim books made it for me.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...y-sci-fi-writer The first details of the book written by Adrian Tchaikovsky that was hinted a few months ago has finally been revealed.
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