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Atopian posted:Look, WW1 came as a surprise too. I'd say no it wasn't but then I'll get probed again.
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It's in the name fellas Grand Fromage will launch a cheese based airstrike on Shanghai
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Blazin' it with Chinese characteristics!
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Grand Fromage posted:Christmas is a huge sales day, got to keep it. Capitalism is the root of all evil in the world Don't forget to buy your presents for Christmas! It's your patriotic duty! These three statements in no way conflict with each other
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Capitalism is the root of all evil in the world From my time in China and dealing with the CCP's propaganda, I have a slight, semantic, pedantic quibble. Insomuch as I never got the idea that they were that much against "Capitalism" per se, nor were they that gung ho on "Communism". True, the CCP is very much against The West(tm), and disharmonious foreign influence. Just as they are extremely pro China, and Xi Jinping Thought with Chinese Characteristics(tm) etc.. But the pure ideologies of Capitalism and/or Communism, not so much.
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Neophyte posted:Blazin' it with Chinese characteristics! lol
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BrigadierSensible posted:From my time in China and dealing with the CCP's propaganda, I have a slight, semantic, pedantic quibble. I'll trust your quibble over my Western outsider view (not being sarcastic btw I very much appreciate knowing this!)
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CCP wants to impose Communism on you while exercising capitalism among themselves. get it right
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Zakrello posted:CCP wants to impose Communism on you while exercising capitalism among themselves. get it right Eerie mirror to the western-style socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. Basically, government is a gently caress.
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Atopian posted:My classroom becomes ever-more adorned with brightly coloured Xi Jinping Thought posters. Really glad I'm no longer teaching there for these and similar reasons, even though I was at a business college, based upon some of my lesson plans around market-based economies, intellectual property, and rule-of-law, I would've been Canadian Michael'ed to a Xinjiang blacksite by a student who took their English name from a MMORPG and only paid attention enough between napping to document my WrongThink.
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sticksy posted:Really glad I'm no longer teaching there for these and similar reasons, even though I was at a business college, based upon some of my lesson plans around market-based economies, intellectual property, and rule-of-law, I would've been Canadian Michael'ed to a Xinjiang blacksite by a student who took their English name from a MMORPG and only paid attention enough between napping to document my WrongThink. michael pettis is basically doin that at beida and he's still alive and basically subtweeting the real estate collapse prolly cuz its beida and he's also subtweeting on twitter in english and all. dont think he has a wb
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sticksy posted:Really glad I'm no longer teaching there for these and similar reasons, even though I was at a business college, based upon some of my lesson plans around market-based economies, intellectual property, and rule-of-law, I would've been Canadian Michael'ed to a Xinjiang blacksite by a student who took their English name from a MMORPG and only paid attention enough between napping to document my WrongThink. Realtalk though, response is a lot more low-key. People who don't fall in line get threatened with firing, then if they still don't listen they get fired, and their subsequent visa applications mysteriously fail. Unless there's a political reason for it, China doesn't want to keep foreigners it sees as troublesome. Quite the opposite.
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https://twitter.com/lnachman32/status/1447731754924605442 Taiwan #1!!!
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quote:Liu suspects that the unwelcoming environment may be a product of a subtle shift in the Chinese government’s attitudes towards U.S. institutions, one precipitated by Xi Jinping’s rise to power. In past years, the program would typically host a small party to celebrate the Fourth of July, during which students and faculty would eat pizza and sing the national anthem. >:-O I'm Canadian and even im outraged
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How does China respond? It seems self defeating if it bans its students from going to Harvard
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Seth Pecksniff posted:How does China respond? It seems self defeating if it bans its students from going to Harvard Not really. There are plenty of other, cheaper foreign Universities to send you kids to which will get you almost as much cred/prestige. Hell, you can also say "I was going to send my son to Harvard, but they are so disharmonious, so instead I sent them to Monash Uni in Melbourne for a quarter of the price." and get to look like good citizens in they eyes of the CCP whilst saving money. The other option being, this is a win for both sides. Chinese parents/students don't care about the actual education but more about the "Harvard" name. So you send them to Taiwan instead of America. The student doesn't have to deal with any of the difficult culture shock/learning English stuff, Harvard itself has outsourced all of it's costs to whatever Taiwanese campus they are using, and the kid comes home with an Ivy League degree and can say he "went abroad" to study. And even if tuition costs are slightly lowered, Harvard still makes megabucks.
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The crackdown on education is theoretically only up to G9, but actually it is having universal effects, and it will absolutely make overseas partner universities reconsider their situation where possible. 'Where possible' is significant, though. For example, Duke just sank a mind-bogglingly vast amount into a shiny new campus near Shanghai.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:How does China respond? It seems self defeating if it bans its students from going to Harvard Several years ago at Harvard or Yale MUN for high school kids all the Chinese kids left in a huff because kids were allowed to say the words "Taiwan" When I was in Beijing for a Harvard sponsored one in 2015 one of my students got yelled at by Chinese students (in the MUN way, points of personal privilege) when he said he was from Taiwan I do think it is slightly performative, like someone just HAS to do it when someone says the magic words GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 13, 2021 |
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GoutPatrol posted:Several years ago at Harvard or Yale MUN for high school kids all the Chinese kids left in a huff because kids were allowed to say the words "Taiwan" Wouldn't surprise me if poo poo like that got reported back to the central office in Beijing
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I was at a pizza buffet the other day, and they were doing that thing that's super common in China where they have fake books all over the place as decoration. This was the book above my table Just thought it was kinda funny. Obviously they don't pay any attention to what the covers for the fake books actually are, they're never Chinese books. Figured there were only three possibilities for how it ended up there. Either it's a huge coincidence, and what are the odds of that? Or, secret falun gong dude at the fake book factory if they're made in China. Or, they're not made in China but guy at fake book factory knew they were getting sold to China and thought this would be funny.
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I'd like to think a customer put it up there and no one's ever noticed.
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You've got guts to go for a pizza buffet in China. And/or you soon won't have any guts left.
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What abominations are served at pizza joints in China? In Japan I was subjected to corn Mayo pizza and Bonita flake and mushroom pizza.
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Unrelated note, potentially relevant for people in China: Last month ExpressVPN, one of the relatively few VPN services that mostly-reliably works in China, was bought by an adware company. Express had theoretically been based in the BVI, but was practically based in HK, which may have had an influence on the previous owners deciding to sell. Either or both of these factors could be something to take into account when considering how to connect to the internet.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Wouldn't surprise me if poo poo like that got reported back to the central office in Beijing There were reports that Chinese students on Australian campuses were being threatened and haraassed for "inappropriate behaviour". Nobody knew if it was official, but it happened in a lot of places
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Atopian posted:Unrelated note, potentially relevant for people in China: Ah poo poo, I use them here in the US.
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HIJK posted:Ah poo poo, I use them here in the US. For outside China, choices seem to be: - Proton, as long as you can handle it being slow as poo poo and don't break Swiss law. - Nord, as long as you overlook that time they were compromised, lost user data, and only ever told people because someone else found out. For inside China, choices seem to be... uh... Well, Astrill gets through the Great Firewall, but they run more identifiers on you than the typical sleazy website, so aside from getting over the wall, they're more of an anti-VPN. I guess start in Astrill, then run your data through another VPN or two? Still haven't decided what to do.
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Vesi posted:I used to run openvpn to my own Linode but that was a few years ago, not sure if they can recognize the protocol now It's a safe bet that anything vaguely standard will be detected, since relatively few VPNs work in China, and even the ones that do only function with a few servers. No telling what the time-to-detection might be, though, so if it were measured in days-weeks and you had cheap/free access to a range of unblocked servers, you might be able to keep switching ahead of the blocks...
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BrainDance posted:I was at a pizza buffet the other day, and they were doing that thing that's super common in China where they have fake books all over the place as decoration. This was the book above my table Yeah, a lot of places don't really give a poo poo on what Western media they display. I was in a coffee shop in Fuzhou last year that played hardcore, uncensored gangster rap to a chill vibe. therobit posted:What abominations are served at pizza joints in China? In Japan I was subjected to corn Mayo pizza and Bonita flake and mushroom pizza. Oreo pizzas with mozzarella cheese still on them. Disgusting.
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Pizza Hut here has a boba dessert pizza. It is so loving bad
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Dongsturm posted:There were reports that Chinese students on Australian campuses were being threatened and haraassed for "inappropriate behaviour". Nobody knew if it was official, but it happened in a lot of places The story from this that I remember was that there was some sort of Pro Hong Kong Democracy protest going on at the University of Queensland. Some Chinese student was walking past it on his way to class and a photo was taken of him. He said that a few weeks later he got a phone call from his parents telling him that they had been visited by a Party official warning them that their son should be "more careful with the people he associates with" or words to that effect. And that he should "think about his family before he does anything". Essentially saying, "We know where you are, and we know where your family live, anonymous Uni student. And we are prepared to take action if there is even the hint that you are doing anything disharmonious." gently caress the CCP.
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BrigadierSensible posted:The story from this that I remember was that there was some sort of Pro Hong Kong Democracy protest going on at the University of Queensland. Some Chinese student was walking past it on his way to class and a photo was taken of him. He said that a few weeks later he got a phone call from his parents telling him that they had been visited by a Party official warning them that their son should be "more careful with the people he associates with" or words to that effect. And that he should "think about his family before he does anything". that shits insane. like i know its because they are oversensitive authoritarians but like what are you gaining outside quietly building resenment against your dumb rear end regime, also i was watching various "dark poo poo that can be found on youtube" videos. it talked about how many chinese rocket crashes and poo poo their are and how they will just full on near by villiages and blow up and incinerate like 300 people and then china will just "erase" the village.
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GoutPatrol posted:Several years ago at Harvard or Yale MUN for high school kids all the Chinese kids left in a huff because kids were allowed to say the words "Taiwan" What is a MUN
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model united nations I gotta say the amount of kids that have wanted to do it since every one has turned into a 3 day zoom meeting instead of a 3 day weekend vacation... hard to get kids to sign up
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ilmucche posted:What is a MUN A miserable little pile of secrets. Efb
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Dapper_Swindler posted:that shits insane. like i know its because they are oversensitive authoritarians but like what are you gaining outside quietly building resenment against your dumb rear end regime, Part of that is that up until very recently, as in around 2014ish, all of China's rocket launches were done over China instead of over water like every other nation on Earth. So when something went wrong, it just plopped into a village instead of falling into the ocean and scaring the poo poo out of a bunch of fish, or possibly hitting a really unlucky fisherman.
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Don Gato posted:Part of that is that up until very recently, as in around 2014ish, all of China's rocket launches were done over China instead of over water like every other nation on Earth. So when something went wrong, it just plopped into a village instead of falling into the ocean and scaring the poo poo out of a bunch of fish, or possibly hitting a really unlucky fisherman. yeah but that poo poo is like black comedy/Warhammer levels of lovely incompetence and mass death. "opps the fuel tank fell on the village school and killed them all, send in the PLA to sweep the place clean".
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