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Veotax posted:Re: the ending I figure Quite Robe did some kind of DNA editing to himself to 'survive' X infection or at least keep some semblance of his mind. He's likely one of the best scientists, otherwise why would Raven Beak kidnap him rather than someone else, and he probably had years to plan this. Whatever he did to himself likely stabilised Samus' Metroid DNA when she absorbed him too. Ending talk: I have no idea what sort of mind/personality Quiet Robe X has, but the game does make it very explicit that he's a Thoha, and the Thoha genetically have some sort of power to control Metroid genes. Raven Beak's whole scheme to turn her into a Metroid was based on getting enough Mawkin into her that it'd overpower her Thoha genes. Samus getting the ability to suppress her Metroid powers by absorbing him tracks, so long as you ignore that no part of the plot involving the word "DNA" makes sense in any scientific way.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So there's still one thing about the ending I don't quite understand. As the post above me mentions, Quiet Robe has the ability to control Metroids, so Quiet Robe X basically getting Metroid Samus under control arguably makes the X safer, if there's any still out there. But also, as others have pointed out, the it could relate to his memories. The game does make a point to mention X can get memories at the very start, albeit it says from living hosts...
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Oct 13, 2021 13:19
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Epigenetics!
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Oct 13, 2021 13:20
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It's space bird magic, they ain't gotta explain poo poo
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Oct 13, 2021 13:27
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Your Computer posted:there are entire sections of the map(s) that are extra hidden and don't flash on the map
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Oct 13, 2021 13:30
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:so long as you ignore that no part of the plot involving the word "DNA" makes sense in any scientific way. This is just making me think of all the times Star Trek had plots involving evolution working in ways that don't make sense. (Namely, a predestination to turn into something or to gain certain traits.) Let's all just be glad samus doesn't turn into a metroid when she goes shinespark 10
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Oct 13, 2021 13:31
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snoremac posted:Could you point me in the right direction for Dairon? There are two spots for me where the map was no help. E: Below is pretty explicit if these are what you're missing, so if what you want is literally just a hint: check the map. Have you seen every corner of every room you've visited, and are there any one-way doors whose other side you haven't seen, hinting at the existence of a hidden room somewhere? Both on the right side of the area, near the purple teleportal. In the room below that one, there's a couple of hot zones that appear on the map, but in the lower right corner there's a destructible block that reveals a door to another room which does not appear on the map. There are two upgrades there. Another likely culprit is the big room a couple doors to the right of the teleportal room; there is an upgrade in the top right corner in a spot that the map autofill misses if you don't space jump up there. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 13, 2021 |
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Oct 13, 2021 13:49
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the way they handled Samus being voiced was perfect. she’s not a monotone chatterbox like in other m, you only hear her voice occasionally but when she does speak it leaves an impact.
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Oct 13, 2021 13:54
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What are you talking about Other M has GREAT voice acting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW2T7HVvfCI&t=180s
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Oct 13, 2021 14:06
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Ending: The scene of Samus going absolutely apeshit on the boss while cutting away to the city falling was comedic gold "AAAAAAAAAAAA(Floating city wide shot) AAAAAAAAAAAAA (city catches fire) AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (city starts to sink)
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Oct 13, 2021 14:08
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TaurusOxford posted:Why would you want to wall jump if you can space jump? Wall jumping gives you more height and changes direction much faster. And a lot of those speedboost puzzles need walljumping to work.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:10
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not clicking on that video, I’m too busy thinking about the good Metroid gameCuddleCryptid posted:Ending: The scene of Samus going absolutely apeshit on the boss while cutting away to the city falling was comedic gold Augus fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Oct 13, 2021 |
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Oct 13, 2021 14:10
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Favorite piece of environmental storytelling has to be the weird monster you come across when you go from Dairon to Burenia. At first the room is dark and the thing appears to be very dead, but it's arm will twitch exactly once as you go past, which freaked me out. Then you restore power to the room and the machine starts zapping it and making it twitch, but it's still very dead. Then, later on, once you've fought Experiment Z-57 and go back there, the monster is gone. It's probably gone as soon as you release the X, which would be cool foreshadowing, but I'm afraid I missed that. This is the case. I got excited when I saw (or rather didn't see) it. Reminds me of Nightmare from Fusion.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:15
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Augus posted:Im not sure if it makes the scene worse or better that they very obviously recorded only one scream and then replayed it 3 times lol Far better imo. just a single unbroken note for three minutes of tearing that poor bird apart. Beethoven wishes he could
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Oct 13, 2021 14:24
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I got an amusing glitch during the last boss. https://twitter.com/Tomenheimer/status/1448136205330108424?t=2HoHgg4nU6874oEQDvtS3g&s=19 He would not die no matter how much I shot him.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:33
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I'm having a very tough time with this shinespark puzzle in Cataris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ2QnAl9YK0&t=555s (about 9:15 in if the timestamp doesn't work) Whenever I slide through that gap I just instantly lose the speed boost. I saw another method of storing a spark and space jumping up to the speed blocks but I couldn't even get halfway up trying that. Cataris is the last zone I need for all items (well I think there might be another zone. I haven't killed the Elite Chozo Warrior yet. He was kicking my rear end so I decided to get all the items to take a break). I can't believe I actually succeeded in some of these shinespark puzzles but they are very unforgiving.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:35
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You have to jump out of the slide during coyote time.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:36
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Humerus posted:I'm having a very tough time with this shinespark puzzle in Cataris: I think you might have enough time to store before the slide and get up Or store before the slide, slide through, activate into the ramp, and store again where the video does
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Oct 13, 2021 14:37
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Yeah what I did was store the shine spark right before the tunnel, then slide through and refresh it using the ramp on the right
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Oct 13, 2021 14:39
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Deceptive Thinker posted:I think you might have enough time to store before the slide and get up Augus posted:Yeah what I did was store the shine spark right before the tunnel, then slide through and refresh it using the ramp on the right Thanks! I just did it one try with that. Guess I didn't think that short ramp would "recharge" the spark. I just felt like an idiot after managing the one where you have to chain like 3 times and then failed this one repeatedly. Crazy how many options there are for all these though.
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Oct 13, 2021 14:45
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chumbler posted:Ok I'm stumped on this one, in part by probably not understanding shinespark mechanics that well. This is how I got that one https://imgur.com/a/v3G5MKa also 
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Oct 13, 2021 15:00
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Luckily the Stealth Cloak fixes that problem entirely and turned the EMMI sequences into a much more enjoyable game of hide and seek. And now I'm fully expecting the next EMMI I meet to have X-ray vision or something. X-ray vision AND super hearing! Sometimes I forget just how much range the grapple beam has. The one in Axiom Verge is pathetic.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:19
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Humerus posted:Crazy how many options there are for all these though. That particular one instead of sliding through the tunnel I wall jumped up to the second level, wall jumped off the left wall to go back to the right, did a low jump to space jump under the overhand, and then just charged the shinespark underneath the pickup location. I'm not sure there's many items in this game with only one solution to get.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:30
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Not because of the murder, they were just doing their job, it's because no one bothered to baptize them
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Oct 13, 2021 15:34
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lih posted:like everything else in the game, the ending is clearly explained by some sort of special DNA (just something to do with it they didn't explain in game) 1950/60s understanding of genetics. Yeah, gamma rays, new plot line
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Oct 13, 2021 15:36
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In the theoretical sequel to this game, I fully expect a followup to the melee counter that command grabs the enemy with Samus' crab claw and sucks out all their energy.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:40
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Regarding future games and also Ending Spoilers: So Samus has had her uncontrollable energy drain ability suppressed by absorbing Quiet Robe-X but she is still a Metroid on a genetic level I assume, so won't this make her a target for every mad scientist and Space Pirate out there? I'm aware Ridley is extremely dead, for now, and Kraid got eaten by the X and vaporized at the end, but I'm guessing there's still the Pirates on their homeworld still.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:43
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I know it's blown up forever and ever for real we mean it but kind of surprised not to see phazon or anything at all, considering everything else is in here
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Oct 13, 2021 15:47
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I feel like that scene purposefully evoked what happens when a Metroid latches onto it's victim, scream and panicked flailing and all.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:49
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DTaeKim posted:I feel like that scene purposefully evoked what happens when a Metroid latches onto it's victim, scream and panicked flailing and all. Raven Beak forgot to get Morph Ball and Bombs when dealing with Metroids, the utter scrub.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:50
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Incredible Doomguy energy from Samus in this game.
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Oct 13, 2021 15:51
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BisbyWorl posted:Raven Beak forgot to get Morph Ball and Bombs when dealing with Metroids, the utter scrub. Well this just makes me sad there wasn't a boss fight bit where they both go Morph Ball and just start smacking into each other like a game of exploding billiards
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https://twitter.com/OtherMomo/status/1412488468316536838
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SettingSun posted:In the theoretical sequel to this game, I fully expect a followup to the melee counter that command grabs the enemy with Samus' crab claw and sucks out all their energy. I feel like there's a very respectable precedent for a good melee action game where a flawlessly executed counter sets you up to OHKO your opponent and immediately recover all your energy.
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Oct 13, 2021 16:07
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Judge Tesla posted:Regarding future games and also Ending Spoilers: Could go either way depending on the story they want to tell, I think. The only people who know Samus has Become Metroid are herself and Adam, so they could let that storyline stop there
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Oct 13, 2021 16:07
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There was a cutscene for a boss I got to (one of the first two, I don't remember which), where I thought I'd discovered that you can charge your shot mid cutscene because exactly as I hit the shoot button to start charging, Samus had the same idea. I was super disappointed to learn that you can't charge during cutscenes, and that I just timed it very well by accident.
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Oct 13, 2021 16:07
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My first 100% in a 2D Metroid:
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SettingSun posted:In the theoretical sequel to this game, I fully expect a followup to the melee counter that command grabs the enemy with Samus' crab claw and sucks out all their energy. They should just make it Samus's version of a devil trigger. The suit already looks like one, and her claw arm is very similar to Nero's devil bringer arm also the game's understanding of DNA makes as much sense as magic orbs anyway
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Snake Maze posted:Could go either way depending on the story they want to tell, I think. personally I can't imagine they'd drop it. also now they have a very convenient way to keep calling the game metroid even after all the metroids were extinct by the third game 
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Snake Maze posted:Could go either way depending on the story they want to tell, I think. I mean The Federation doesn't know she got the cool powerup suit but they're the ones who injected her with Metroid DNA in the first place and explicitly studied her/developed a bunch of upgrades that would work with her new Metroid powers in Fusion. also this game is predicated on the fact that Samus being the last carrier of Metroid DNA is so widely known that someone leaked something on social media to lure her into a trap so he could get it.
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