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Kibayasu posted:Yeah 20-30 years ago a single major riot, no matter what caused it, in an urban centre felt like a big deal. Now? Uh… if you televised a swat team taking out a bunch of armed protesters most people would probably just be like "yeehaw!" hell, even if they were unarmed. ..
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The Orville isn’t Star Trek, obviously. It’s moulded after the good bits people like in Star Trek. Imagine a sportsman. He has a good win rate. You video all the times he did good with the ball and got the points. And you put it in a robot. The robot was based on only the good parts of the sportsman so it should be great. It holds its arms just like he does when he wins. And the robot can play the game but not to an international standard. Because when the man fails to score it’s not because he was doing the wrong thing. It’s because he was taking a risk based on a deeper understanding of what was happening and it didn’t pay off but when it didn’t he learned something important and advanced the game to a place he could achieve something important. To his wife, the robot isn’t Star Trek. To the manager it isn’t Star Trek. To a fan in the audience, it can probably fool them for a little bit because he does the pose and everything. When the game is over though it isn’t Star Trek. It’s cool and an awesome tribute to Star Trek but it’s no replacement.
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chaosbreather posted:but it’s no replacement. Counter argument: yes it is. It's totally fine Trek.
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bortus owns and rip norm macdonald blob guy
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CainFortea posted:Counter argument: If you’re willing to accept its Trek without any of Trek’s setting, characters, driving theme or central thesis, kind of. There’s no prime directive, phasers, psychics, warp cores, Vulcans, Klingon, Borg, Cardassians, Ferengi or Federation. But moreover, Star Trek’s goal was mostly, discover out how to be Star Trek. The Orville goal is to competently execute on those specific discoveries. Which it does a great job of.
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Every time I see pictures or video of The Orville it just comes off like a well-funded fan project to me. Which it kind of is.
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Star Trek is all about Gene Roddenberry wanting to tell stories of people in the future trying to have sex and The Orville is very star trek.
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chaosbreather posted:If you’re willing to accept its Trek without any of Trek’s setting, characters, driving theme or central thesis, kind of. There’s no prime directive, phasers, psychics, warp cores, Vulcans, Klingon, Borg, Cardassians, Ferengi or Federation. But moreover, Star Trek’s goal was mostly, discover out how to be Star Trek. The Orville goal is to competently execute on those specific discoveries. Which it does a great job of. To me, Trek is about hope for the future and seeing how the versions of us deal with issues that effect us today, through the lens of seeing it in alien cultures. It doesn't have to literally be named Star Trek. TOS didn't have borg, cardassians, or ferengi. It's still trek.
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Lexx is a much better Star Trek than Orville
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chaosbreather posted:Lexx is a much better Star Trek than Orville The shower is the Yoga Corridor of Lexx
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Cthulu Carl posted:The shower is the Yoga Corridor of Lexx this guy gets it
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Cthulu Carl posted:The shower is the Yoga Corridor of Lexx  edit: put that gif behind a spoiler for potential NSFW mycomancy fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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huh, look at that.
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As an Enterprise watcher all I see is a space traveler decontaminating after an excursion on a strange new world, nothing unusual here
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chaosbreather posted:Lexx is a much better Star Trek than Orville 
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How the hell have I never heard of Lexx. I love me some Farscape and this seems that same kind of insanity?
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Lexx is a step beyond Farscape in insanity and the final season of Lexx is full tilt crazypants
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Tiberius Christ posted:that's why they had to change one of the actresses Uhh, what? mycomancy posted:
Just as a general fyi; You want to link, rather than spoiler-tag, NSFW stuff, because it still goes into their browser cache.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uhh, what? The actress playing the security officer at first ended up dating Seth McFarland, and then they broke up, and then she left the show. I don't think anyone came flat out to say that's why she left, but it's heavily implied.
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CainFortea posted:The actress playing the security officer at first ended up dating Seth McFarland, and then they broke up, and then she left the show. I don't think anyone came flat out to say that's why she left, but it's heavily implied. Oh, I never heard about that! I always assumed she got a larger role elsewhere.
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not dating seth mcfarlane is a better role.
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Yeah I think I would've watched The Orville by now if Seth McFarlane wasn't also the lead. As a voice actor he's fine but his face is just incredibly unlikeable.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Oh, I never heard about that! I always assumed she got a larger role elsewhere. She did, she was on Prodigal Son. But I do wonder if her relations with Seth made it an easier choice to move on. Amusingly, Prodigal Son had its entire two-season existence -- creation, production, release, cancellation -- in the time we've been waiting for season 3 of The Orville to come out already. 
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I always wondered why they replaced a character with a nearly identical character, that'll do it
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Danaru posted:I always wondered why they replaced a character with a nearly identical character, that'll do it You can tell that something sudden happened behind the scenes, because there's a lot of inertia in the early/mid series writing where they've clearly ctrl-f'd "Alara Kitan" and ctrl-v'd "Talla Keyali" in its place.
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Powered Descent posted:She did, she was on Prodigal Son. But I do wonder if her relations with Seth made it an easier choice to move on. The first season of that show was fun. Second one was dogshit from a dogs rear end tho
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i loving love lexx give me more pattern
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chaosbreather posted:The Orville isn’t Star Trek, obviously. It’s moulded after the good bits people like in Star Trek. Orville is one entertainment company takeover away from becoming an alternative timeline/dimension to the rest of the Star Trek shows. EDIT: The Mouse probably already has access to some TNG assets because of the Xmen/TNG crossover comics. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Fishstick posted:How the hell have I never heard of Lexx. I love me some Farscape and this seems that same kind of insanity? Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Lexx is a step beyond Farscape in insanity and the final season of Lexx is full tilt crazypants Lexx is a couple of steps beyond Farscape imo. It's like the same premise, escaped prisoners steal a ship and have adventures, except the ship is a Death Star level superweapon. And boy do they use it. Repeatedly. And that's just a small detail in the craziness of the show.
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Lexx is one of a handful of productions that fully justified the funding they received from the governments of Canada and Germany and one of the only things that stirrs anything resembling national pride in me
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Tighclops posted:Lexx is one of a handful of productions that fully justified the funding they received from the governments of Canada and Germany and one of the only things that stirrs anything resembling national pride in me Make Lexx both countries national Anthem. Don't know how that would work, but they should do it anyway.
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dr_rat posted:Make Lexx both countries national Anthem. Don't know how that would work, but they should do it anyway. One should have the Fight Song of the Brunnen-G
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imagine if colin mochrie was stanley tweedle
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GolfHole posted:imagine if colin mochrie was stanley tweedle It'd be hard for me to see him as sleazy as Stanley was.
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I can't believe after all that set up the spy gets caught and killed by loving Neelix. How embarrassing for him
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Today's Lower Decks was good Star Trek. Also, nice to see the Excelsior class is still getting work.
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Looks like Amazon is doing preorders for DS9 DVDs coming next month. Buy em now before paramount + holds the show hostage
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GolfHole posted:imagine if colin mochrie was stanley tweedle The dude who played Mr Lahey in Trailer Park Boys had a very brief non speaking role in the first tv movie
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Gutcruncher posted:Looks like Amazon is doing preorders for DS9 DVDs coming next month. Buy em now before paramount + holds the show hostage Is this just a re-issue? Anything new or special about this one?
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chaosbreather posted:If you’re willing to accept its Trek without any of Trek’s setting, characters, driving theme or central thesis, kind of. There’s no prime directive, phasers, psychics, warp cores, Vulcans, Klingon, Borg, Cardassians, Ferengi or Federation. But moreover, Star Trek’s goal was mostly, discover out how to be Star Trek. The Orville goal is to competently execute on those specific discoveries. Which it does a great job of. Being free from 50 years of lore isn't bad tho. They can have the alien do stuff without people saying "that isn't how a real [klingon/cardassian/whatever] would do that, and why did they redesign their ears it looks stupid." And taking a different approach than the Prime Directive isn't bad either. They've mostly set the bar for first contact back to "attempts to communicate" rather than "reaches warp speed" and they have reasons for that. And sometimes the PD would get silly, like the times trek would wring their hands about whether it was better to let an entire pre-warp species die, or help them and potentially interfere with their natural development. An alternate universe where the scifi tropes can be told anew. Anyway, The Orville is startrek in the same way that Galaxy Quest is startrek.
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