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The Protagonist posted:Why are you taking grad classes anymore even i applied to a bunch of urban planning programs when i was an optimistic youngster who was gonna do something about this whole climate change thing back in 2019. now it's like... what else am i gonna do for the next 8 months anyway? might as well just get that piece of paper
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Oct 13, 2021 23:52
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at this point going pol pot on anyone who understands extracting and refining petrochemicals is the only way we're getting out of this
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Oct 14, 2021 00:06
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i have bad news for you
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Oct 14, 2021 00:22
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will this do anything or is it pissing into the wind? Biden Administration Plans Wind Farms Along Nearly the Entire U.S. Coastline  e: lmao, 2025, even if it was anything the idea that Trupp wouldn't just shut it down is ludicrous
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Oct 14, 2021 00:30
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Rectal Death Adept posted:i have bad news for you
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Oct 14, 2021 00:35
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Cloks posted:will this do anything or is it pissing into the wind? I wonder if they ever solved the problems with undersea power distribution cabling. Apparently they break constantly, are difficult and expensive to replace, and it causes massive collateral damage when they inevitably do break. I read something were like 50% break over 5 years.
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Oct 14, 2021 00:38
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Cloks posted:will this do anything or is it pissing into the wind? Article is weirdly outdated, those leases are already identified and being bid on. Seven or Eight clusters down the west coast of Oregon and Cali, and then vast interconnected 5+ gigawatt megafarms blanketing the east coast from Maine to the Gulf. Several of the east coast farms, such as the projects Orsted is developing, are supposedly going to be under construction or already commissioned by 2025 (unlikely). Half of all this is supposed to be online by 2030. Bidding is already open on most of these.
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Oct 14, 2021 00:39
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lmao very cool no  here tonight
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Oct 14, 2021 00:44
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Rime posted:Article is weirdly outdated, those leases are already identified and being bid on. Seven or Eight clusters down the west coast of Oregon and Cali, and then vast interconnected 5+ gigawatt megafarms blanketing the east coast from Maine to the Gulf. Several of the east coast farms, such as the projects Orsted is developing, are supposedly going to be under construction or already commissioned by 2025 (unlikely). Half of all this is supposed to be online by 2030. Actually you'll find that The Most Progressive President In Our Generation did all of it. This is all because of Biden. Also all of the technological hurdles are solved due to brain genius Joe The President.
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Oct 14, 2021 00:46
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global warming is going to gently caress with wind currents so badly that a lot of these will be underpowered in a decade or two,
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Oct 14, 2021 00:47
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Homocow posted:we're here: Rudder go up
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Oct 14, 2021 01:28
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what if we all just lived on the surface of Venus. momentarily.
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Oct 14, 2021 01:32
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this isn't new to this forum but I'd like to present this as evidence that we are already way beyond loving this planet and have simply accepted our impoverished planet as normal: https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/02/05/257046530/big-fish-stories-getting-littler
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Oct 14, 2021 01:46
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Spergin Morlock posted:its only a matter of time before some bacteria figures out how to metabolize plastic and once that happens the problem fixes itself one was found outside a plastic recycling plant in osaka a while ago https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aad6359
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Oct 14, 2021 02:34
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Dolphin posted:what if we all just lived on the surface of Venus. momentarily. I will volunteer to go to Venus and find out just how long a human can survive there. I'll scream all the way down so you can time it.
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Oct 14, 2021 06:16
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https://twitter.com/SallyNAitken/status/1448414570943377410?s=20 I know geoengineering gets a lot of attention but bioengineering to try and save various crops or species is also going to be a clusterfuck. How's that project to revive the Wooly Mammoth going? And while we're on the topic of engineering species... Human engineering to fight against climate change quote:Pharmacological intolerance to meat bowser has issued a correction as of 13:10 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Oct 14, 2021 13:07
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KaptainKrunk posted:global warming is going to gently caress with wind currents so badly that a lot of these will be underpowered in a decade or two, It does trouble me that the vast majority of people seem to assume wind is a magical infinite "other" power source, much like solar actually is, and that pulling hundreds or thousands of terawatts out of that closed system will in no way have negative consequences for weather patterns. The first law of thermodynamics is some basic poo poo, unless you rely on a thing as a hail mary to prop up your lifestyle and keep the party going I guess. Are wind farms slowing each other down? quote:While the group has mainly dealt with the extent to which the wind farms influence each other in their current work, they intend to investigate in the near future what influence the reduced wind speeds have on life in the sea. Wind and waves mix the sea. This changes the salt and oxygen content of the water, its temperature and the amount of nutrients in certain water depths. Naveed Akhtar: "We would now like to find out how the reduced mixing affects the marine ecosystem." Every type of energy generation at scale has a considerable and unavoidable environmental price. Rime has issued a correction as of 13:16 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Oct 14, 2021 13:13
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we could build enough wind to power north america entirely and i don’t think it would have a drastic impact properly spaced out tbh. there’s an awful lot of room.
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Oct 14, 2021 13:47
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good loving luck convincing people to voluntarily sign up for any of this, we can't even get >80% of people to accept the covid vaccine
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Oct 14, 2021 13:48
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Dolphin posted:what if we all just lived on the surface of Venus. momentarily. It would feel like walking around under 1km of water. The gravity waves would knock you over. Also they are made of acid. Venus is hilariously hostile to life. Every contigency you can think of has been stamped out. It's the ultimate NIMBY planet.
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Oct 14, 2021 13:55
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Marx Headroom posted:It would feel like walking around under 1km of water. The gravity waves would knock you over. Also they are made of acid. Venus is hilariously hostile to life. Every contigency you can think of has been stamped out. It's the ultimate NIMBY planet. all the benches on Venus have those dividers so the unhoused can't sleep on them
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Oct 14, 2021 14:21
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well I don't have children, don't really fly, I have a car but only drive 2k miles/year, and don't eat meat I would still take some oxytocin though :p and yeah imagine the chud reaction to the meat thing hahahaha
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Oct 14, 2021 15:19
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kreeningsons posted:one was found outside a plastic recycling plant in osaka a while ago https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aad6359 so all that carbon currently locked up in plastics and not accounted for in even the worst case climate models is totally in play and can rush back into the biosphere whenever a strain of those guys gets serious.
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Oct 14, 2021 15:22
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Stereotype posted:my good friend is a marine biologist specializing in coral and her lab is effectively building a coral ark, since they are convinced that the oceans are going to soon be completely inhospitable to all corals and so they’re trying to freeze them so that they can unfreeze them at some arbitrary point in the future and we don’t just lose all the coral to extinction. seems like a worthwhile graduate school result. One of my college friends went into marine biology and she's the most crack pinged person I've ever met. Nobody in this thread, probably not even Rime, comes even close to the level of doom that I get from her. It's insane.
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Oct 14, 2021 15:59
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Paradoxish posted:One of my college friends went into marine biology and she's the most crack pinged person I've ever met. Nobody in this thread, probably not even Rime, comes even close to the level of doom that I get from her. It's insane. hard not to be when you watch all these metrics change in literal real time as you sample
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Oct 14, 2021 16:34
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hey doomers, here's some normie hope https://twitter.com/jam_etc/status/1448380548288634887 https://www.science.org/content/article/huge-step-forward-mutant-enzyme-could-vastly-improve-recycling-plastic-bottles 
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Oct 14, 2021 16:40
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we did it!! we cleaned up the Patch and what do you mean we're still dead
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Oct 14, 2021 16:41
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Cup Runneth Over posted:hey doomers, here's some normie hope lol, so they've managed to figure out recycling plastic back into its original form. while we're still producing massive amounts of plastic daily. also these recycled plastics are going back into circulation where small bits of them get shaved/rubbed/worn/etc off and go into the environment. this is literally making the problem worse.
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Oct 14, 2021 16:45
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we needed an immediate and total abstention from using plastic for anything other than critical usages (medical and such), twenty years ago. instead 1.9 billion ultrastrong plastic bags are being produced daily to siphon Coca-Cola down throats where they'll destroy gastric linings. and now we can recycle that back into even more coke cans!
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Oct 14, 2021 16:47
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Lmao Florida
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Oct 14, 2021 16:48
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Marx Headroom posted:It would feel like walking around under 1km of water. The gravity waves would knock you over. Also they are made of acid. Venus is hilariously hostile to life. Every contigency you can think of has been stamped out. It's the ultimate NIMBY planet. I think the dumb German YouTube thing (that I actually enjoy even if they're too optimistic) has a video about teraforming Venus because I guess it is easier than Mars? If you watch some of the other videos they do have a pretty lmao quality in that they're like "well we might be able to do this if we could stop being idiot apes for ten minutes." So maybe they aren't all bad!
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Oct 14, 2021 16:55
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SKULL.GIF posted:lol, so they've managed to figure out recycling plastic back into its original form. while we're still producing massive amounts of plastic daily. also these recycled plastics are going back into circulation where small bits of them get shaved/rubbed/worn/etc off and go into the environment. I don't think they even know about the microplastics, they're just upset about the dolphins swimming in trash. They're not even thinking about how the water is also itself trash now Basic Poster posted:Lmao Florida incredible, Florida is so lovely that it eclipsed my state entirely but also lmao NYC
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Oct 14, 2021 17:00
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Marx Headroom posted:It would feel like walking around under 1km of water. The gravity waves would knock you over. Also they are made of acid. Venus is hilariously hostile to life. Every contigency you can think of has been stamped out. It's the ultimate NIMBY planet.
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Oct 14, 2021 17:04
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1. clean up the big plastic patches in the ocean 2. ??? 3. clean up the microplastics and greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere gently caress YEAH WE GOT THIS
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Oct 14, 2021 17:08
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Cup Runneth Over posted:hey doomers, here's some normie hope Lol those people are such a scam. They’re claiming carbon offsets from Chinese dam project, because they’re HQ’ed in San Francisco, which is very very far away from the garbage patch lol
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Oct 14, 2021 17:09
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recycling was invented as a scapegoat for manufacturing millions more tons of plastic which could then be blamed on the consumer oh, all that littered plastic? that's all irresponsible people who used the wrong bin 
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Oct 14, 2021 17:14
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Spergin Morlock posted:its only a matter of time before some bacteria figures out how to metabolize plastic and once that happens the problem fixes itself Hmmm. Plastic is actually less complex than the cellulose in trees. It only took a few tens of millions of years for bacteria to figure that out. It may only take a few hundred thousand for plastic. I'm suddenly optimistic.
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Oct 14, 2021 17:27
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are we sure humans can't digest plastic
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Oct 14, 2021 17:34
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Basic Poster posted:Lmao Florida how are there no Louisiana cities in there
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Oct 14, 2021 17:40
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the ocean cleanup people note that some of their prototypes also capture microplastics. so they’re aware of those. 90% of the big patch is garbage greater than 10mm in size so this is still a worthwhile effort on some level. sorta meaningless imo without strict plastic bans tho so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ WorldsStongestNerd posted:Hmmm. Plastic is actually less complex than the cellulose in trees. It only took a few tens of millions of years for bacteria to figure that out. It may only take a few hundred thousand for plastic. I'm suddenly optimistic. as has been brought up we’ve seen this already. the thing about these alternate metabolic pathways expressed by these microbes is that there’s always a fitness cost associated with them. this is worthwhile when the mutations allow them access to abundant energy sources that their fellow bugs can’t digest because the outcome more than makes up for the cost. irl though it’s usually the case that there’s plenty of other stuff for them to digest and so they’ll generally be outcompeted by microbes that don’t end up with these mutations. so while we’ll see limited examples popping up they’re mostly only going to be useful for industrial biodigesters and never imo as a sort of general widespread bug that eats all the plastic. regrettably because it would be pretty interesting to see most plastics just…stop working
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Oct 14, 2021 17:40
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