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That's the objective truth. City dwellers, and Children need an appreciation of the work that goes into keeping themselves in comfort.
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Arc Hammer posted:A revolution comprised of the agriculture sector armed with super advanced mecha fighting against capital interests would be awesome, yes. Especially if they get to foment a growing insurrection among the low income working class in the cities who have their wealth exploited by rich plutocrats. I think King Gainer had some of that..? Like, not in specifically that fashion.
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The Colonel posted:i think tomino had two sides of his brain and those sides were at war with each other and it took until turn a for both sides to make peace so he could give us normal shows, like wings of rean Wings of Rean is based on the original light novels that Tomino wrote at the same time he was doing Dunbine. They are pure uncut 80’s Tomino.
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Arc Hammer posted:A revolution comprised of the agriculture sector armed with super advanced mecha fighting against capital interests would be awesome, yes. Especially if they get to foment a growing insurrection among the low income working class in the cities who have their wealth exploited by rich plutocrats. Maobile Suit Gundam: Yan'an Blooded Cadres.
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Oct 14, 2021 03:03
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I hope the red head guy is Brad of "Brady Hound (Brad Custom)" fig fame
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chiasaur11 posted:Two episodes in. And the second episode was about how kids these days need to learn how good it feels to do an honest day of farm work, which isn't any kind of morally wrong, but it definitely has some "Old man yells at cloud" energy. after Muteking ep2 i don't think this even rates for me on the old man scale
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Oct 14, 2021 03:16
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GorfZaplen posted:I hope the red head guy is Brad of "Brady Hound (Brad Custom)" fig fame I'm pretty sure he is, yes. He's being set up as the show's Graham Aker, the American(ish) enemy ace who respects the protagonist. I'm betting his custom will be one of the mook suits modified to have a pilot, to experience the thrill of combat or somesuch.
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this is like responding to a two pages back post now but i'm gonna watch the poo poo out of l-gaim. thanks mecha thread!
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GimmickMan posted:this is like responding to a two pages back post now but i'm gonna watch the poo poo out of l-gaim. thanks mecha thread! Don't worry about responding late to that one. It's always time for L-Gaim.
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chiasaur11 posted:Two episodes in. And the second episode was about how kids these days need to learn how good it feels to do an honest day of farm work, which isn't any kind of morally wrong, but it definitely has some "Old man yells at cloud" energy. i mean, thats still like.... 1/12th of a show  that bit just sounds a bit hashtag Boomer for the moment, but maybe by ep 20 or smth it'll get Too Much
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For those that care, Brawin Powered is getting a BD release https://twitter.com/SUNRISE_web/status/1448990424744534018 Also Tomino wants to remake Brain Powered with movies and admits the show isn't well made, although given his age I sadly don't think this will happen (He said the same thing about remaking Ideon and nothing ever came out of it) https://twitter.com/Char_Tweet/status/1448978838516482050
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God drat, I still haven't had time to start orguss. But I did have time to get hooked on the OP and do a deep dive on Casey Rankin. Crazy story.
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Kingtheninja posted:God drat, I still haven't had time to start orguss. But I did have time to get hooked on the OP and do a deep dive on Casey Rankin. Crazy story. Orguss sadly doesn't live up to its OP and ED. Broad outline stuff about it sounds amazing, but the show itself doesn't hold up so well. Orguss II felt much stronger. (And I finished that) Speaking of bad shows, we're two or three episodes into this season's mech anime, and Megaton Musashi is making its play for the bottom of the list. While Kyoukai Senki is dull and has a poorly sketched (at best) setting, Megaton Musashi goes for broke with tonal incoherance. The latest episode opens with the murder of a pilot who we never met and the mission control woman shooting herself with some kind of needle that may or may not be medically necessary(?), before having an assassin after the hero... which turns into an extended gag as she fails to kill him, then tries to defend her stalking as her being in love with him. Then we get a random scene of a background character hitting on her teacher, another random background character falling in love for the first time with a cat(?) and weird AI tutorial lady getting invented, who exposits about the gameplay... I mean robot operation. Megaton Musashi is a game tie-in, and that's easy to pick up on even if you never saw the articles, because it has so much that feels like game mechanics. For the most obvious narrative one, it's got the crew of full time mech technicians, pilots, and the like also having full time jobs in the city so you can do the Persona style "wandering the city improves your mech combat stats", but you also get the formatting, the way the mech fights, the description of the job... it's not a game representing anime fights. It's anime fights representing game mechanics. And again. That cat scene had nothing to do with anything else in the episode. Apparently the cat dies or is wounded or something next episode and that motivates the weird background guy to pilot a mech better? Or something? I'm not shocked that this is bad and confusing, it's a Level 5 anime after all, but some of the tonal decisions are just baffling.
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So does that make muv luv alternative the best mecha anime this season by default? I like the world building so far, but the tonal change going from ep1 to 2 is quite something.
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AtheistMantis posted:So does that make muv luv alternative the best mecha anime this season by default? I like the world building so far, but the tonal change going from ep1 to 2 is quite something. I'm really enjoying Gyakuten Sekai no Denchi Shoujo and Kyoukai Senki so far.
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AtheistMantis posted:So does that make muv luv alternative the best mecha anime this season by default? I like the world building so far, but the tonal change going from ep1 to 2 is quite something. Nah. This is an absurdly mech heavy season by modern standards, and Muv Luv's second episode was really awkward. I'd say the current leader is 86. Solid story, great directing and animation, and source material that strongly reduces the odds of outright crashing and burning. Sakugan had a strong opener and didn't stumble too hard with episode 2, so it's got a chance if it doesn't get creepy or boring, and Gyakuten Sekai no Denchi Shoujo has a pretty strong team behind it in addition to a clever first episode, but, well. 86 has been good enough that catching up isn't going to be easy.
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Muv luv is dq'd for how badly they mailed the designs. And for how badly they're going to mangle the plot.
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Not to mention their use of NFTs: https://twitter.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1449946151629688836
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I love the VN of Muv Luv so much at I'm just astounded at how spectacularly the anime is falling on its face. This doesn't bode well for the sequel VN they announced last year.
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Has there ever been a good Muv Luv adaptation? I recall the Unlimited anime being not great either.
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Tribladeofchaos posted:Has there ever been a good Muv Luv adaptation? I recall the Unlimited anime being not great either. Not sure if you're being sarcastic but there is no Unlimited anime. That's part of the problem, they just jumped straight to adapting what's effectively part 3 of a trilogy.
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Bakanogami posted:Not sure if you're being sarcastic but there is no Unlimited anime. That's part of the problem, they just jumped straight to adapting what's effectively part 3 of a trilogy. No that was me just being stupid, I was thinking of Total Eclipse.
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Rumble Garrandoll continues to be exceptionally entertaining to me, has a LOT of Akiba Ranger vibes, and though the main conceit of the season is pretty obvious main character embracing the hot-blooded passion of his youth despite whatever trauma made him start being a normie I'm still excited to see it really kick off.
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Pyronic posted:Rumble Garrandoll continues to be exceptionally entertaining to me, has a LOT of Akiba Ranger vibes, and though the main conceit of the season is pretty obvious main character embracing the hot-blooded passion of his youth despite whatever trauma made him start being a normie I'm still excited to see it really kick off. We also see that the impossibly powerful enemy mecha is actually just on strings like a suitmotion actor, which is perfect, and the female lead gets a good speech about why she's doing what she's doing that fits both the goofy and the more serious parts of the narrative. Good start. Meanwhile, Kyoukai Senki is doing the same rough beats with the hero joining the resistance, but everything is much, much worse. Sure, it has 2D animation for the mechs but it wasn't as smooth as IBO or the same studio's best scenes in Re:Rise. And that's all it has, since the characters are dull as they come. It has the protagonist join a terrorist group, but they're about the least rough-around-the-edges resistance fighters, with only one guy as much as going "Hey, Joe Civilian might not be the best pilot for this job" (in the most boring, cliche, edgelord wannabe way with no actual proper edge to it), and nobody going "Is he a plant", "We're going to have to check some things", "We can't let you run free for a bit" or any of the other standard points of friction that make the hero joining a rebel cell tense. (Garrandoll goes with the tension being on the protagonist's side, but Amou isn't the type to make interesting trouble.) And then their pilot was talking about how he might have to pilot the new mech when he already has a mech. Maybe let someone else pilot, you know? It's a bad show, and it feels way too watered down so far to make its themes work. Despite being a series where Bandai's explicitly said the kits are for older builders, the writing is childish.
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Tribladeofchaos posted:No that was me just being stupid, I was thinking of Total Eclipse. If anything, I think the Muv-Luv material most suited for an adaptation would be Day After, since it's mostly standalone but has more meat to its bones without being as dense as Schwarz. But they probably wouldn't get a season 2 and the original TDA VNs still aren't complete, so.
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Willo567 posted:For those that care, Brawin Powered is getting a BD release Oh holy hell! As janky as Brain Powered is, I still loved it. Yoko Kanno's music, Mamoru Nagano's art, Tomino's writing ended up crystalizing in a really odd-but-cool way for me. edit- Also, I'm pretty sure they straight-up lifted audio from TRON for one of the characters jetski thing for some reason Queadlunn fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Dear hack-assed writers of Kyoukai Senki: it is not possible to do a good version of Lalah/Four when the characters relationship is established around minute 16 of episode three and then promptly killed in the cold open of episode four. Putting aside whether doing another Lalah/Four character is even a worthy thing to be trying to do in the first place (I guess I'm not surprised that a show like this was chomping at the bit to throw a woman in a refrigerator, but still, deep deep deep sigh.), it helps for the emotional impact if the protagonist has properly interacted with the sacrificial woman for more than literally two scenes. If they barely knew each other and the woman freely and frankly admits she's getting close to the dude in large part because it is literally her job, then having a bit where the protagonist screams for 30 seconds at the dusky sky just makes me roll my goddamn eyes. Triply so because they are apparently hanging an entire story arc on the death of this minor character. Hate to break it to you guys, but the reason it worked in Gurren Lagann was because Kamina was a force of personality from minute one and he was functionally the motivator for the plot right up until his death. Also, considering the age gap and their dynamics my reaction was less "Lalah Soon" and more one of the multiple victims from Gundam AGE.
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Omnicrom posted:Dear hack-assed writers of Kyoukai Senki: it is not possible to do a good version of Lalah/Four when the characters relationship is established around minute 16 of episode three and then promptly killed in the cold open of episode four. Putting aside whether doing another Lalah/Four character is even a worthy thing to be trying to do in the first place (I guess I'm not surprised that a show like this was chomping at the bit to throw a woman in a refrigerator, but still, deep deep deep sigh.), it helps for the emotional impact if the protagonist has properly interacted with the sacrificial woman for more than literally two scenes. If they barely knew each other and the woman freely and frankly admits she's getting close to the dude in large part because it is literally her job, then having a bit where the protagonist screams for 30 seconds at the dusky sky just makes me roll my goddamn eyes. Triply so because they are apparently hanging an entire story arc on the death of this minor character. Hate to break it to you guys, but the reason it worked in Gurren Lagann was because Kamina was a force of personality from minute one and he was functionally the motivator for the plot right up until his death. A Lalah or a Four is a decent plot beat, although it's been overused in the genre. "Lovers both united and torn apart by war" is a good way to illustrate the original Gundam's idea of human connections that transcend all boundaries, and it creates a very personal kind of guilt. Sure, killing Four wasn't as essential to the plot as killing Lalah, but a Zeta where she survived would almost necessarily be a much more upbeat show overall, which gets into a very different set of questions. Meanwhile, this is just more general purpose fridging, which isn't nearly as good a narrative move. Even a really well executed example, like in Iron Blood Orphans, feels rough because it's killing off a woman primarily to motivate a male character, and this isn't well executed. We barely knew the girl, and she obviously only existed so the lead would feel sad. It's empty. One thing that stands out about Kyoukai Senki is how it refuses to consider efficiency. It introduces characters that leave the stage almost immediately. Instead of having important characters introduced in episode 1, then built up in episode 2, we get characters in focus, then discarded. It's inefficient even aside from questions of narrative merit. chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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chiasaur11 posted:A Lalah or a Four is a decent plot beat, although it's been overused in the genre. "Lovers both united and torn apart by war" is a good way to illustrate the original Gundam's idea of human connections that transcend all boundaries, and it creates a very personal kind of guilt. Sure, killing Four wasn't as essential to the plot as killing Lalah, but a Zeta where she survived would almost necessarily be a much more upbeat show overall, which gets into a very different set of questions. There's also the fact that Lalah was a character that added to an already established rivalry between two characters (Amuro and Char) that gave both of them new dimensions both through interacting with her and against each other. Lalah brought out a different side of Char than we'd seen before, his interaction with her put him in a mode besides his previous faces of "extremely competent and professional Zeonic soldier" and "backstabbing sneak", and Lalah's interactions with Amuro was a way for the show to explore some of the trippier aspects of being a Newtype in a way that was resonant with themes of the show. And she caused movement between Amuro and Char, Lalah made their rivalry personal in a way that it hadn't been before. Prior to Side 6 and Lalah, Char and Amuro had never met each other face-to-face, and even after that point it wasn't until she died that I would say the two of them were truly fighting "each other". To Amuro, Char was only ever the scary pilot in whatever red mobile suit was menacing him at that moment, and to Char his rival was only ever "the Gundam", a machine not a person. Lalah meant that their final battle wasn't between "the Gundam" and "The Red Comet", it was between the characters Amuro Ray and Char Aznable. That final sword fight they have at the end of the show would not have happened without Lalah Soon, and that says something because it is a really important scene to those characters and to the original series of Mobile Suit Gundam and to the franchise as a whole for as long as those characters have existed. Meanwhile, whatsherface is a nobody character who existed to give the main guy some man pain. I'm not going to pretend what happened with Lalah wasn't problematic, that she wasn't shoved in a refrigerator, that there weren't some sketchy optics on it, that it doesn't suck she became a character archetype for a legion of imitators across the franchise and even the genre that rarely if ever were used particularly well (I brought up Gundam AGE for reason), but at the very least Lalah Soon had a LIFE before she died and she had a legacy that extended beyond making a guy sad. And putting absolutely everything else aside, isn't that what the death of the character is supposed to do? I guess nobody told the Kyoukai Senki writers that.
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Omnicrom posted:There's also the fact that Lalah had agency in her death, too. It wasn't her getting killed randomly to motivate Char. She chose to dive between Char and Amuro to protect the men she loved, even at the expense of her own life. Lalah's life and her death mattered, and she continued to influence the plot beyond her death. Meanwhile, this character... doesn't.
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https://www.fathomevents.com/events/macross-plus-movie-edition Who's going?
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Oh I just saw it's the subbed version too. I was gonna say I don't prefer the dub but would still see it anyway, but hell now I can go in with only the disappointment that it isn't the cut that adds all the OVA and Movie content together.
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Oct 26, 2021 06:45
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I want this stupid plague to be over so I can go watch movies in theaters.
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Is it sacrilege to say that I think the English version of Voices in Macross Plus is better than the Japanese one? Like the only lyric that stuck with me from the Japanese track is "the last word in my dream is "hmmm" because of how silly it sounds.
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