HAIL eSATA-n posted:

you ride a bike. drunk riding is fine and in fact fun

bagual posted:

Radirot posted:

that video series is so loving cool

reminds me of this classic:



https://www.ted.com/talks/james_howard_kunstler_the_ghastly_tragedy_of_the_suburbs?language=en

does the infrastructure bill even address any of that poo poo?

Radirot posted:

that video series is so loving cool

reminds me of this classic:



https://www.ted.com/talks/james_howard_kunstler_the_ghastly_tragedy_of_the_suburbs?language=en

does the infrastructure bill even address any of that poo poo?

Petanque posted:

i hadn't seen this before but goddamn this came out nearly 18 years ago?!

Petanque posted:

i hadn't seen this before but goddamn this came out nearly 18 years ago?!

Leroy Diplowski posted:

When he mentioned Iraq I was like: "drat been a minute since I heard that name"

Still really good and I think he has a lot of good advice. I really appreciate the scathing indictment of consumerism

Radirot posted:

im an old millennial

Lastgirl posted:

https://i.imgur.com/rqGZJaC.mp4

bagual posted:

cars

Radirot posted:

that video series is so loving cool

reminds me of this classic:



https://www.ted.com/talks/james_howard_kunstler_the_ghastly_tragedy_of_the_suburbs?language=en

does the infrastructure bill even address any of that poo poo?

Radirot posted:

the advice on dead malls is still relevant. my county bought a mall from Moonbeam Capital Investments to try and develop it into something usable for once since its been mostly vacant over a decade.

bagual posted:

speed freak detected



sorry mister societal issue addresser, i should post more like you so i can fix society, it was a dumb joke about applying EU ebike regulations to cars

but if you wanna call me a liberal go all d&d on this poo poo, is the 25 km/h value the problem? modern cars basically guarantee survival in low speed inter-vehicular collisions bar extreme weight class mismatch and slower vehicles means everyone on the road or it's sides can have more time to react to whatever happens

as for needs i need not to be plastered by some jackass in a high speed car losing control, so does everyone who walks or cycles, and motorists could definitely live going slower, is from each according to his ability to each according to his need really liberalism? not really, collective action is made to sate collective needs, from my perspective reducing traffic mortality is a huge collective need because it's life and death for millions of people and car go fast is a lesser need in comparison, so if reduced mortality can be brought about by mandating safety speed limiters for all cars just like freight trucks already have, why shouldn't we?
it comes down to what speeds are reasonable for what, something we already do with speed signs that in my opinion should be wired into the hardware so it's actually enforced instead of pretend enforced. what X% lesser speed and more time on the road will be equal to Y% less accidents and fatalities is something i don't know because im just a dumb poster, but the expectation of as fast as possible travel at all times to make everything happen just in time with insane expectations from businesses and eventually even the regular drivers makes everything run at breaking point either in jams or speeding to compensate for jams while people are turned into mincemeat by the roadside and inside their steel cages and it all loving disgusts me. we have the fastest travel times in history and its never loving enough, but merely suggesting travel should take longer gets gasps from people who know our fossil fuel death machines cant possibly go on on like this

of course we can just ban all cars instead and no need for any of this bullshit but until we do that i will drone on with idiot jokes about cars maybe going slower, maybe everyone will get so tired of my poo poo theyll consider banning cars and investing in public transport for broke idiots like me



i uh, wrote a lot more than i intended for a one off joke but at this point im just angry at recent events and venting at cars and buses and trucks and anything with a motor ok, im gonna write down my saturday sunday and monday with car culture in here in brazil, exclusively for the car hate thread, in blog screed style

tl;dr im whiny

there's literally no one to complain to in this story that would actually make a difference which is why im shouting it at internet strangers, except maybe the bus company for being dicks only telling me some details wednesday when i was already at the station and making me reschedule this pandemic hell bus ride to a busy weekend, i don't have a car and am too poor for installments maintenance and gas, could maybe share it with SO but we're each with jobs in different states right now and we'd rather pool together for a house first

im only taking a bus during the brazilian pandemic to get the vax btw, my job's state is ruled by chuds and id only be getting fully vaxxed next year, following home state schedule it's second dose next monday, they're only testing symptomatic cases here and im paranoid as hell right now but i figured beats 6 additional months unvaxxed in nosemask central, i shaved my beard and wore an N95 the entire time, but whatever, just clarifying im not some covids over freak going on a joyride

i wished i lived in train land but my life is more like this



rim: bends
me: cars

except i couldnt even do that this time, i had to pack the bike in a box and take it to and from the bus station via large cab because the only direct bus from where im at to my podunk hometown now has a lovely little cargo hold that cant even fit that upright and on its side meant it could damage other passengers baggage

i left home early and waited a couple of hours at the station to make sure my stupid box was at least there first when it came time to fit the baggage, then the 14h long bus ride took 4 additional hours due to road traffic, counting the time at the station that was 21 hours "travelling". monday i had a 20km ride from downtown where i reassembled the bike to my neighborhood and it was either shorter industrial zone road with good asphalt but a lot of trucks or longer normal road with several bridges and overpasses without sidewalks so industrial zone it was but it rained and poor drainage meant whole sections are underwater and trucks and cars splashed oily industrial zone gunk all over my eyes and mouth and i passed by a truck/car accident with some probably very loving dead people and it made me wonder how many meters would a truck slide on an oily flooded road if it had to hit the breaks. last section was a road inexplicably built with no shoulder space between two ditches and i booked it with a stupid looking shid strip on my rear end and backpack from all the mud and fertilizer residue as cars swerved in the rain into the other lane even as i tried to ride the thinnest asphalt leftovers overgrown on the sides of the road just to feel like i was not an rear end in a top hat away from getting clipped

cars

Smythe posted:

been a long time since i seen that ted talk

mastershakeman posted:

my town has a suburban outdoor mall that is constantly packed and thriving and generates crazy amounts of revenue through taxes. as far as i can tell it's a unicorn

Radirot posted:

that video series is so loving cool

reminds me of this classic:



https://www.ted.com/talks/james_howard_kunstler_the_ghastly_tragedy_of_the_suburbs?language=en

does the infrastructure bill even address any of that poo poo?

Fitzy Fitz posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fCofhjVfU

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Yeah learning that word helped me to define why the new development here reminds me of <literally every extraurban development in the last 40 years, countrywide>. It's because it's all stroads.

kronix posted:

Uh my parents live 400km away, taking the train requires 2 transfers and like 10 hours if you don’t time it right. I can drive it in 3 hours.

So, unless you want to volunteer to entertain my kid for 10 hours on/waiting for trains this idea can gently caress right off.

Radirot posted:

reminds me of this classic:

https://www.ted.com/talks/james_howard_kunstler_the_ghastly_tragedy_of_the_suburbs?language=en

Polo-Rican posted:

watching this again, it kinda sucks because he doesn't mention cars at all. he just angrily shits on modern buildings and modern civic spaces and demands that we build better ones without once mentioning the root cause: they're bad because they prioritize convenience for drivers (lots of parking, wide roads)

edit: well on second thought I guess the thumbnail image literally contains the phrase "The National Automobile Slum" lol... but he doesn't really mention it in the talk

Fitzy Fitz posted:

The outdoor style is popular right now. I wonder if it will be dead in 15 years though when it's no longer nice and new? That's what indoor malls were at one point.

Leroy Diplowski posted:

Back in the days before the model T only the very wealthy could afford cars. They would take their cars and go ripping through the countryside killing poor folks chickens and children without really giving too much if abfuck. If you can afford to buy a car you can afford to pay off peasants. People pretty quickly got fed up and motorists in the us and Europe would occasionally face farmers hurling rocks at them as they went past. This prompted motoring publications to recommend travelling with a pistol to fend off the poor's if they object to the damage you are doing to their livelihoods

Cars as the object of class resentment is demonstrated in this quote from Woodrow Wilson in 1906.

"Nothing has spread socialistic feeling in this country more than the use of automobiles. To the countryman they are a picture of arrogance and wealth with all it's independence and carelessness."

Fitzy Fitz posted:

One of the funniest parts in Downton Abbey is when Matthew, elated after the birth of his first child, immediately careens into a truck and dies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_Xd8m1nzE

Polo-Rican posted:

same! totally forgot about this one

kinda depressing 15 years later when climate change is catching up to us and not much has changed besides "the SUVs are even bigger"

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

SUV's, Trucks, and cars are all even bigger then they were 15years ago. My small sportscars is like 2x the size of it's predecessor.

Pryor on Fire posted:

They even killed a drunk college kid by cuffing him and throwing him face down in the back of a truck to take him to detox, which broke his neck. His crime was walking home while too drunk.

Pryor on Fire posted:

The millionaires around here complain nonstop about the homeless in their line of sight, so the police started patrolling all the bike paths and bridges to scare them off. This means biking while drunk is now incredibly dangerous, as there are lots of police just roaming around on foot yelling at people and harassing everyone in sight for biking under the influence or public intoxication.

They even killed a drunk college kid by cuffing him and throwing him face down in the back of a truck to take him to detox, which broke his neck. His crime was walking home while too drunk.

lobster shirt posted:

i got arrested for walking home while drunk once, i joke that the lesson learned is "drive drunk instead" but like... why the gently caress would you arrest somebody for walking home drunk, i was on the sidewalk and everything!