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KakerMix posted:I can acknowledge that valve isn't a paragon of virtue while at the same time highlighting how so stupid it is to play that card when the opposing team is facebook. Valve isn't so great, alyx isn't all that cracked up to be, but facebook has done, and continues to do, so much damage to the fabric of America's psyche while faciliting the deaths of hundreds of thousands through misinformation during a global pandemic let alone actual real genocide the world over. I can also understand that lots of people don't give a poo poo and just want a cheap way to play videogames in VR but I can't let that go, sorry. Lol, it was a flippant response, I wasn't really equating both, pound for pound.
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Hyperlynx posted:Is there actually anything to do but admire the a m b i a n c e? So far, I sat through some Japanese pop song, unable to do anything except change the EQ by moving bits around, and couldn't even move myself until a monster handed me a gem. What's the actual gameplay? Is there any? So far it's just been, as I say, babby's-first-VR-excursion level stuff. There are few light puzzles, eventually. But it isn't the main drive of the game, it's more a passive game. But saying 'babby's first VR excursion' is hilarious. There are also artsy, non-very-interactive games in traditional videogames medium.
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Oct 14, 2021 12:12
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Turin Turambar posted:There are few light puzzles, eventually. But it isn't the main drive of the game, it's more a passive game. But saying 'babby's first VR excursion' is hilarious. There are also artsy, non-very-interactive games in traditional videogames medium. I see. For me, a "game" implies gameplay, as opposed to an interactive exhibit or digital novel or walking simulator or whatever other term. But I'll admit that there's a lot of people who don't see it that way, and also that I personally don't like these other non-vr non-game thingies either.
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Oct 14, 2021 13:04
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the they live dumpster fight but when rowdy gets you to put on the goggles you get to see vr porn instead of the messages that say "CONSUME" everywhere
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Oct 14, 2021 13:09
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:the they live dumpster fight but when rowdy gets you to put on the goggles you get to see vr porn instead of the messages that say "CONSUME" everywhere The porn is selected algorithmically from your advertising profile.
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Oct 14, 2021 13:37
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KakerMix posted:loot boxes or vaccine denial, full-blown fascism and racism out in the open. Did you miss where I said "Facebook is definitely worse"? It wasn't a long post
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Oct 14, 2021 13:58
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Don't give your information to Facebook guys, give it to TikTok and China instead! tiktok and china can probably do less with my data than facebook literally same poo poo different flavor
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Oct 14, 2021 14:04
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imagine facebook antagonism but as an entire personality (and by antagonism I mean literally just reiterating that you'll personally boycott it)
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Oct 14, 2021 14:04
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Eye of the Temple finally came out. Anyone have any opinions on it?
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Oct 14, 2021 14:06
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I call Zuck every day to tell him what I jerked it to.
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Oct 14, 2021 14:08
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Social media zucked me off?!
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:imagine facebook antagonism but as an entire personality I am literally in Germany right now considering places to move, I wouldn't even be able to buy a Quest 2 in this country even if I wanted to. Speaking of Euros vs. USA: Is there any downside to me simply slapping on adapters to the lighthouses and running them like that? I haven't looked specifically at the AC adapters but I imagine (like most things) they are multi-voltage and a physical adapter is all that is needed. I'm not against getting the actual euro plugs either but I wouldn't even know where to begin in trying to order those.
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Oct 14, 2021 14:44
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Pretty sure the index set comes with europlug adapters already but I'd have to look in the box again
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Oct 14, 2021 15:39
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The Vive Flow livestream is running now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU7n5HmmO0 edit: Lol, it's even worse than we thought; "Hey guys, use the thing for work you do for relaxation. This will in no way lead to burnout and increased stress due to a lack of separation between the two". Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Oct 14, 2021 16:06
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The Vive Flow livestream is running now. This is odd 'Hey I'm an overworked and stressed single mother and thanks to Vive I can escape into another reality for scant moments which also somehow relaxes me'
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Oct 14, 2021 16:13
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They want you to sleep with the headset on lmao
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Oct 14, 2021 16:13
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Alctel posted:This is odd It'll do nothing to eliminate the cause of your stress and actually improve your mental health long-term, but you'll sure feel better while you use it! Please use it a lot, god we want you to be in this thing just all the time for work and play. Please, please, buy one.
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Oct 14, 2021 16:18
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What market are they even targeting with this thing? HTC might be closing its doors soon
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Oct 14, 2021 16:36
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For as garbage as this presentation is, the form factor of a lighter headset and belt mounted battery and cpu isn't an awful idea. Though without the backstrap this feels like it can't possible block out enough ambient light. So is the trick with using the phone controller mean that it doesn't have inside-out tracking and is actually using the phones camera to do a jury rigged outside-in?
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Nukelear v.2 posted:For as garbage as this presentation is, the form factor of a lighter headset and belt mounted battery and cpu isn't an awful idea. Though without the backstrap this feels like it can't possible block out enough ambient light. I feel it's maybe one of those things were the actual product has too many flaws to do well but the general direction it's going is a good one. If that makes sense. Although I don't know how successful 'lets make our VR headset so comfortable people will wear it while sleeping!!!' will be
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Oct 14, 2021 16:45
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Pretty sure the index set comes with europlug adapters already but I'd have to look in the box again Ah then I wouldn't have those as I am still using my OG revision one lighthouses from my Vive. I can always just buy the v2 ones I suppose.
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Oct 14, 2021 16:52
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The Vive Flow livestream is running now. I haven't watched it but I can provide three links! https://uploadvr.com/vive-flow-hands-on/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22713276/htc-vive-flow-vr-headset-launch-price-hands-on https://www.engadget.com/htc-flow-lightweight-vr-headset-150014421.html
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Alctel posted:Although I don't know how successful 'lets make our VR headset so comfortable people will wear it while sleeping!!!' will be Can't wait to sleep with my headset on and have someone hijack the headset so it blasts Death Grips at 3 AM
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Oct 14, 2021 16:59
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Yeah, the idea of making more light and easily connected to your smartphone is a good idea for a 'media viewer' device like this but man, $499 gives you 1.6k per eye resolution 75 hz screen xr1 chip 64gb storage no controllers It isn't one or two, but literally every point is behind Quest 2: 1,8k per eye res 90-120 hz screen xr2 chip 128gb storage 2 controllers edit: oh, that price doesn't include the external battery! you need to buy one.
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Mega64 posted:I call Zuck every day to tell him what I jerked it to. he already knows, but I'm sure he appreciates the confirmation
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Turin Turambar posted:Yeah, the idea of making more light and easily connected to your smartphone is a good idea for a 'media viewer' device like this but man, $499 gives you  To be clear I fully agree there's a market for a really simple media-viewer HMD, but it's gotta be really cheap (relatively speaking) to actually be viable over a Quest 2. And this thing is... not. Like the only way the Flow makes sense to me is if HTC is somehow trying to pretend the Oculus Quest 2 just doesn't exist.
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KakerMix posted:Ah then I wouldn't have those as I am still using my OG revision one lighthouses from my Vive. I can always just buy the v2 ones I suppose. Just checked and it does not come with the plugs but the actual PSUs are modular so you can buy just the euro plugs and swap them out. The OG Vive just had regular AC adapters so you'll probably just need to check the base stations and buy new proper European AC adapters for them.
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I don't mind this new HTC... thing... as a stepping stone to some kind of merging of the affordability and processing power of a Quest 2 but in a smaller, super-light form factor. If it were comparable, spec-wise, to a Quest 2 at the same price point it'd be a no-brainer as a back-up headset to use solely for movie porn watching. But yeah, nah.
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If you don't want to wait, you can try Huawei's version now: https://www.vopmart.com/huawei-vr-glass.htmlNeddy Seagoon posted:somehow trying to pretend the Oculus Quest 2 just doesn't exist. As far as price goes, all other companies are forced to do exactly this. Quest's pricing is absolutely untenable for anyone other than Facebook, Apple, Google and those types. mutata fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Microsoft could jump back into the game if they wanted. They're a little busy trying to sell their tech to the military so they can kill people better
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Syves posted:My VR Ears came today. they feel like they are made out of brittle plastic... so not a great first impression. but we'll see how they are once I mount them onto my quest 1 when (ugh, IF) I get a chance tonight. God drat life is busy, but got to use the VR Ears for a bit last night and they are quiet. Max volume on the headphones is MUCH quieter on my Quest 1 than just not having anything plugged in at all. Probably need to adjust a volume setting somewhere, appears others have had the same issues on the indiegogo page. Could also be a positional thing? But my Index with the off-ear headphones work a treat in about the same position. However, thats not necesarily a bad thing for me. Could still hear everything fine, but might be nice for the family to not have to hear how many robots I'm recalling or whatever. And it is nice to not have to wear headphones after wearing them most of the day at work. So, VR Ears: 3 out of 5 stars. Maybe 2 if something sneaks up behind me since I couldn't hear it.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Eye of the Temple finally came out. Anyone have any opinions on it? Its the best game in VR hands down. Yeah, I'm serious about that. Its a real experience, not a fuckin poo poo game with VR mechanics. Also the developer is anal as hell. You should see the things hes done to "make it nicer" or "fix things" that needed no upgrades or fixing. Been playing it a couple years. No locomotion, use your body. Requires like 2.5m square. You can kinda squeeze in a little smaller but expect to cling to walls. EbolaIvory fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Turin Turambar posted:edit: oh, that price doesn't include the external battery! you need to buy one. I laughed out loud when I hit the part of the article where they explain that it only comes with enough battery to go for a few seconds and you have to buy the $79 battery pack. HTC's done it again! This is performance art at this point. I also love that it's a device who's only purpose is media viewing and it comes with 64 gigs of storage (non upgradeable).
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Lmao I look forward to picking up a Vive Flow at goodwill for $4.99 in like 18 months.
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Does Facebook make a profit on the Quest 2 hardware, or are they selling it at a loss and planning to recoup it on store fees and/or selling your genome to Peter Thiel?
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Sagebrush posted:Does Facebook make a profit on the Quest 2 hardware, or are they selling it at a loss and planning to recoup it on store fees and/or selling your genome to Peter Thiel? At a loss. Its why nobody else currently can compete. I semi went on about this a while ago. By the time the hardware is cheap enough to break even, a new model will come out upping the production cost of the base unit while the old one will be cheaper for the short time its alive.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:What market are they even targeting with this thing? HTC might be closing its doors soon HTC has been on the verge of closing their doors for like the last 10 years. OctaviusBeaver posted:They want you to sleep with the headset on lmao There's people who do this in VRChat and I have no idea why
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Lacrosse posted:HTC has been on the verge of closing their doors for like the last 10 years. I don't understand where the budget keeps coming from. We work with VIVE and Viveport a lot and its amazing how they manage to just fund whatever. I'm pretty sure they don't give a huge poo poo about consumer side because they are still making bank* on the business/educational sectors. *By bank i mean enough to keep funding poo poo but not take over the world with cheap rear end vr hardware Lacrosse posted:There's people who do this in VRChat and I have no idea why Wont lie, I kinda "get it". As someone who did the whole long distance thing, The falling asleep on whatsapp/facetime was pretty common. Waking up with a headset on and full body presence with a loved one or w/e would be neat and with a normal VR headset ugh gross.
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