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Ok, so bots are broken. Now how do I play the bots instead of the people who just instakill two of my dudes on the first turn?
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Oct 15, 2021 01:50
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RatHat posted:Gruul is poo poo in PvP but he's quite useful for the final PvE area Yeah, I was wondering about his purpose when I came across him in my collection last night. Then I remembered the final area is Blackrock Mountain and I was like, ok, that makes sense. Eventually when they expand the merc pool you could imagine him being part of a PvP team if a dragon comp becomes dominant in the meta, but at the moment I think it's kind of neat that there are a few niche PvE choices. Chernabog posted:I think the main problem with the Merc mode is that way too many of them are garbage without a comp. 2 "synergy" mercs are not worth it, 3 is workable but you are gimping yourself if any of them die. You probably need at least 4 so it makes sense. As a F2P player (with 1.5k gold tossed towards packs) I still don't have 4 mercs of any one synergy. For my first attempt to build a party with synergy I chose beasts, so I started with Anacondra, Mukla, and King Krush, and then... uh, Brightwing? Thought I could do something with the bench buff and swap moves. And then I added Malfurion and Guff for some kind of backup nature spell synergy thing which kind of went nowhere. Even looking at the mercs I didn't own there weren't really any that added much to the beast trio I started with, and then there was Blink Fox, which is a beast but doesn't synergize with any of the others because it doesn't have any attacks. I think tribal synergies are the obvious place to start but there's a lot to be said for building comps based on ability synergies as well. I'm still in the brainstorming stage of party building at the moment but already it feels like there just aren't enough mercs in the game! I've only really done the first area too so maybe I'm getting ahead of myself even imagining that the PvE challenges require synergistic comps. In fact the game is still so new I'm starting to wonder if the way I'm imagining it in my head is... not the game we actually got.
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Oct 15, 2021 03:29
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I've got a friend quest to use up, shoot an invite to Patspens #1675.
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Oct 15, 2021 03:33
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RatHat posted:Uh anyone beat Emperor Thaurissian? I don't understand how it's even possible to win. I just did it and I only had kurtrus, xyrella, and millhouse remaining when I started it. But I got lucky since I got a boon that increases caster hp by 50. Otherwise, try to have a rounded enough party to where you know you're going to lose the first three and when the bombs go off and you only have three left, try to stack direct damage that's hopefully from casters.
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Oct 15, 2021 03:51
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Patrick Spens posted:I've got a friend quest to use up, shoot an invite to Patspens #1675. i'm around if you still need this filled, just sent you an invite.
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Oct 15, 2021 03:56
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Lister posted:I got a boon that increases caster hp by 50. I've only taken one boon so far but it was one that gave all my casters zero cooldown on their abilities. And one of them had the treasure that lets you full heal your party. That was an easy run.
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Oct 15, 2021 04:41
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Apparently the Xyrella treasure skill that forces an ally to attack enemy minions until they die, and the Samuro treasure that makes him immune when attacking is an instawin EDIT: Full Orcs looks like a really busted comp but it’s so expensive to get all the mercs for it. I think the ideal setup would be Garrosh, Thrall, Samuro, Saurfang, Rokara, and Gul’dan which is 3 legendaries, 1 epic, and 2 rares. I guess maybe you could switch out Gul’dan for Xyrella who has synergy with Garrosh and Samuro. RatHat fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Oct 15, 2021 05:10
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Amoeba102 posted:And what do you get from doing this? An extremely high amount of XP compared to PvE, and about twice as many coins (which I believe are for guys you have or random, so possibly better than the ones a bounty gives).
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Oct 15, 2021 06:57
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RatHat posted:Apparently the Xyrella treasure skill that forces an ally to attack enemy minions until they die, and the Samuro treasure that makes him immune when attacking is an instawin I was playing this but with Cairne instead of Thrall (because I don't have him). It's good, but you Xyrella + Cariel Roame beats me every time. The biggest challenge is PVP is how you will deal with Samuro, Cariel and Xyrella. Second is how you will deal with Ragnaros, Geddon and a third fire character. I think early pvp meta will revolve in answering these problems and then evolving from there. I was playing with a humans + Samuro build and I think it's both fun and good. Lich King, Varian, Samuro, Tirion, Uther, Natalie. There's a lot of synergy just in using Varian's move to lower human's speed. His attack buff deathblow is also a nice surprise. Lich king increases enemy speed, has a good taunt, and has a heal/nuke. Natalie can keep you alive and can burn down the turn one Cariel Roam roadblock. Tirion and Uther are follow-ups and disrupt the game a lot. Tirion, Uther and Natalie are really tanky and have good burst. Samuro is just good. Any speed 4 or faster attack lets him proc his double swing. I'm sure there's a better version of this team, but so far it feels good to play.
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Oct 15, 2021 09:22
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Is anyone using the Pack Tracker plug-in with Hearthstone Deck Tracker? Seems broken since the addition of Mercenary packs, maybe they changed the pack IDs in the game? Official Github page hasn't been updated since April. Is there a fix or a fork that works? I don't want to install Overwolf for Firestone  Edit: Apparently it's not the pack tracker but HDT that needs to sort something out first. Ah well... mcbexx fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Oct 15, 2021 14:56
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One of the better treasure combos i found was having dawnstar and Jaina, both having a "whenever an enemy is frozen, deal x damage to them" and dawnstar picking up ice shard. It was a slaughter.
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Oct 15, 2021 15:09
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Can anyone explain why doing tasks (and thereby going to The Barrens and retiring) is the way to power level your teams? Thanks.
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Oct 15, 2021 15:23
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mcbexx posted:Is anyone using the Pack Tracker plug-in with Hearthstone Deck Tracker? Yea, noticed this as well, it's probably gonna take a coordinated update from both HDT and the plugin to fix
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Oct 15, 2021 15:49
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Mayveena posted:Can anyone explain why doing tasks (and thereby going to The Barrens and retiring) is the way to power level your teams? Thanks. Like from a game design perspective? Probably because it's unintended and letting players progress for free faster than they planned lol. Watch them drop a hotfix to limit the mysterious stranger event to one per day, I give it by the end of the weekend.
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Oct 15, 2021 15:50
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goferchan posted:Like from a game design perspective? Probably because it's unintended and letting players progress for free faster than they planned lol. Watch them drop a hotfix to limit the mysterious stranger event to one per day, I give it by the end of the weekend. I didn't realize it let you progress that fast but I've basically only played for about an hour or so because of the stupid bug that's finally fixed. Yes once per day would seem to make more sense. Let's see if I can stand to grind the tasks this way before they fix it.
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Oct 15, 2021 16:11
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On the subject of type comps in Mercenaries, it really feels like they're leaving holes to fill with future unit releases. On one hand, this is more forethought than I expect from this kind of game and it hopefully means they're thinking about the meta longterm. On the other hand, this mode is still really janky. They have a lot of technical debt to work on, and I'm not confident that they'd fix enough of it before putting their full focus on adding more units to the gacha.
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Oct 15, 2021 16:22
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Looked into the Samuro/Xyrella comp and ... lol. 250 HP Corrupted Ancient died on turn 2.# Trivializes most fights so far. Just brute force it. I wonder how they will handle nerfs in Mercenaries, considering it has a not so thinly veiled P2W aspect. I don't think that "coin refunds" will cut it with the type of players who invest money to git gud in competitive PvP. Also, tasks are dumb. Just go to a lower level and cheese it. Heal enemies if you need. Instant gratification is a thing in this game mode, so why bother with completing them organically? mcbexx fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Oct 15, 2021 17:45
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Lister posted:Dear Somethingawful forums, I never thought it would happen to me.... Yep do this, and do it now. 1. You're never going to have access to more low level mercs than now. 2. They will presumably fix this at some point.
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Oct 15, 2021 19:02
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My Nozdormu quest is bugged. It logged 1 game I played with him and none after. I haven't even been conceding...
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Oct 15, 2021 19:30
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Zul'jin seems extremely busted but there aren't many Protector or Fighters who use Shadow damage to take advantage of him. He's gonna be really strong in the future as more heroes come out.Yestermoment posted:One of the better treasure combos i found was having dawnstar and Jaina, both having a "whenever an enemy is frozen, deal x damage to them" and dawnstar picking up ice shard. It was a slaughter. Yeah I’ve been looking down on Dawnstar but they scale insanely well with Frost spell damage. RatHat fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Oct 15, 2021 20:25
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Strawberry Panda posted:My Nozdormu quest is bugged. It logged 1 game I played with him and none after. I haven't even been conceding... Were you playing ranked? That's the only way I've been able to progress quests since the patch Tuesday.
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Oct 15, 2021 21:37
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fanny packrat posted:Were you playing ranked? That's the only way I've been able to progress quests since the patch Tuesday. Was playing Casual. But figured a workaround, which is that I had to concede instead of outright losing.
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Oct 15, 2021 21:41
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Samuro seems bad, what am I missing
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Oct 15, 2021 21:47
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Samuro Scenario 1: deals 10 damage, doesn't attack twice unless someone can put speed his attack = 10 total damage (takes damage too! Hitting a 10 attack hero means he takes 10)) Scenario 2: Deals 10 damage, hits again for 15 = 25 total damage (takes twice as much, 20 damage) Scenario 3: Has burning blade Deals 12, plus 18. =30 total (takes 20). Scenario 4: Also Xyrella debuffs (11 damage, -9 attack and always hits before him) Deals 12, plus 18. =30+11 total (takes 2 damage, but gained 4 HP for a net+2) That's a 71 crit against a blue, and a 52 crit against a red and every follow up turn is going to be even more damage as Sam's next hit starts at 20 damage base.
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gowb posted:Samuro seems bad, what am I missing Use him with Xyrella(or any Merc with a faster attack but Xyrella reduces the damage he takes too. Mannoroth actually works well too)
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That doesn't even consider additional buffs like Windfury or tribal bonuses, be it from boons or other Mercenaries. Or the hilarious OTK of getting Hysteria for Xyrella (or Selina) and casting it on a Samuro after he cast Whirling Blade (Deal 2 to all enemies, then become immune for the turn). mcbexx fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Strawberry Panda posted:My Nozdormu quest is bugged. It logged 1 game I played with him and none after. I haven't even been conceding... fanny packrat posted:Were you playing ranked? That's the only way I've been able to progress quests since the patch Tuesday. Strawberry Panda posted:Was playing Casual. But figured a workaround, which is that I had to concede instead of outright losing. It was buggy for me too - except for me I had to lose outright instead of conceding below 15 hp. Also in casual. Regular quests in casual work about 50% of the time it seems, as I had to play 5 or so to get credit for a play 3 quest.
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Reminder that there are Twitch drops until the end of the weekend. Watch any Hearthstone stream for 2 Merc packs(2 hours each)
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Which would be really boring to watch, as when I glanced at Thijs or Kripp, they were just doing heroic air elemental over and over. This is also one of the one where you have to claim the first pack to earn progress for the second one. Amoeba102 fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Oct 16, 2021 00:48
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Lister posted:Dear Somethingawful forums, I never thought it would happen to me.... I've been trying this out and it's a pretty great way to power level your lowbies. One win takes the four carries from 1 to 8, and five wins takes them up to 16. I'm using Cariel and Tyrande as my 30s because that's what I had on hand and one of the matchups was a little dicey just due to critical damage, but yeah the AI just throws random mercs against you so most games are a cakewalk.
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Amoeba102 posted:Which would be really boring to watch, as when I glanced at Thijs or Kripp, they were just doing heroic air elemental over and over. Yeah that’s one of the problems with Mercenaries: It has lots of Grinding, and that isn’t fun to watch
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Amoeba102 posted:Which would be really boring to watch, as when I glanced at Thijs or Kripp, they were just doing heroic air elemental over and over.
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NorgLyle posted:Why Air Elemental? It’s for farming tasks from the mystery spot. Air Elemental is only 5 battles long so it’s really quick. If you get one without a mystery spot you just reset. Note that it’s specifically heroic Air Elemental Also maybe anecdotally but the mystery spot seems to be a task more often than other bounties.
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 Ok, I'm gonna stop here now that almost my entire roster is at least 15-20. I leveled up Millhouse for the Tyrande combo the OP mentioned and basically stuck with those two plus Cariel the entire time, only facing two human opponents along the way. Now to finish the story mode...
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It's great how you can't even reroll tasks lol.Strawberry Panda posted:My Nozdormu quest is bugged. It logged 1 game I played with him and none after. I haven't even been conceding... It didn't work for me, I eventually had it work in wild ranked with a non-golden Nozdormu. RatHat posted:It’s for farming tasks from the mystery spot. Air Elemental is only 5 battles long so it’s really quick. If you get one without a mystery spot you just reset. Note that it’s specifically heroic Air Elemental Can that not appear in the previous one? Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Oct 16, 2021 09:41
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Acerbatus posted:It's great how you can't even reroll tasks lol. If it can it’s much rarer
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Kalko posted:
Well, now I feel stupid for leveling most of my mercs like some idiot gamer before the cheese strat was posted. Gotta fill with 1-2 low level scrubs to stretch it out a bit to even get to 6000 the cheesy way. Or buy packs for more mercs. Lol. Nope. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Oct 16, 2021 14:02
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Yeah, buying packs seems like the worst value proposition in the game by a wide margin. I dropped 8k gold on them and with today's PvP farming and my PvE progression up to Winterspring (with a bunch of repeated bounties) I've now got all but seven of the mercs. Now I just have to work out what to do with them...
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Maybe they should have had an intern take a quick peek at the skill names so they actually match... at least they both end in "Blade". Quite the irony, considering the task name. 
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