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Applewhite posted:Oh that. True, but the saucer, being a saucer, has many times the internal volume of an aircraft carrier just by itself.  Not as much as you think. There is a LOT less space in that starship by volume looking at the two, and doubling the size would actually bring it up to something comparable.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:
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On the other hand the Nimitz is seven decks high discounting the tower. Also has a ship's company of 3500 with a an air wing of 2500.
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MikeJF posted:On the other hand the Nimitz is seven decks high discounting the tower. Also has a ship's company of 3500 with a an air wing of 2500. Quarters on modern navy ships are pretty tight though, right? From what I remember Spock's quarter's were small compared to TNG, but still pretty roomy. Nice wide hallways too. Memory Alpha says thew crew topped out at 400, so I guess that checks out.
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Oct 16, 2021 15:21
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volume? i got your volumes right here pal
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Facebook Aunt posted:Quarters on modern navy ships are pretty tight though, right? From what I remember Spock's quarter's were small compared to TNG, but still pretty roomy. Nice wide hallways too. Enterprise also has a MUCH bigger engine section, and interstitial systems that eat chunks of space like thrusters, phasers, torpedo launchers, the Deflector Dish, etc.
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I guess the question then is how big does the ship really need to be? The Enterprise is a "heavy cruiser" so we should be comparing it to something like a Ticonderoga class as opposed to Nimitz.
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A starship is 40% explosive consoles by volume. This was the sacrifice to achieve ftl travel in the Trek universe.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Quarters on modern navy ships are pretty tight though, right? From what I remember Spock's quarter's were small compared to TNG, but still pretty roomy. Nice wide hallways too. Captain's quarters:   that said, the quarters in the new enterprise are a bit more generous: junior officer Lt Spock's living room:  Also I guess if every set of quarters gets a giant airlock door I can see why they need a bigger ship  But they added some primary colors so it's faithful to TOS! Plus they even used the same room number! 
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Oct 16, 2021 16:25
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No bathrooms required
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I just poo poo on the floor and get engineering to beam it into space
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FlamingLiberal posted:No bathrooms required I think that's what the door behind the bed was meant to be?
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Where the heck is the bathroom on the enterprise?!
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MikeJF posted:that said, the quarters in the new enterprise are a bit more generous: junior officer Lt Spock's room: lmao. Jesus Christ. Anyway: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/10/star-trek-exploring-new-worlds-exhibit-comes-to-las-skirball-center/ Check out the classic props! Marvel at how amazingly lazy the phaser got in Star Trek Into Darkness!
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Arc Hammer posted:Where the heck is the bathroom on the enterprise?! I'm now imagining TNG but it turns out all the bathrooms are only in one half of the ship, so if they separate the saucer you're hosed.
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John Murdoch posted:I'm now imagining TNG but it turns out all the bathrooms are only in one half of the ship, so if they separate the saucer you're hosed. Child reaching for dropped teddy bear scene, only it's me reaching longingly for a toilet as the evac team drags me away
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infernal machines posted:lmao. Jesus Christ. God the swivel emitter was so stupid. You can tell someone did that so they could flog a toy later.
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it's basically like an 18th century sailing ship where the captain gets a quarter galley and the other 200-600 men all use the same head
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Arc Hammer posted:Where the heck is the bathroom on the enterprise?! frakes already said that there is only one toilet on the ship.
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the starfleet uniform also functions as what the airforce called a "poopy suit"
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Mulaney Power Move posted:the starfleet uniform also functions as what the airforce called a "poopy suit" Every chair is comfy when you make your own padding
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going back to the age of sail, you could also just crap on the deck in between the guns or in the cable tier
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in one of the aubrey-maturin novels they're talking about one of the times they disguised themselves as a merchant ship and maturin says "how i remember it - turds everywhere, haha"
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I thought it was consensus they just beam the poo poo out of you. *RED ALERT! RED ALERT!” “Captain to the bridge! Romulan warbirds off the port bow!” “Uh numba 1, I‘ve got the bubble guts and am in the middle of a numba 2.” “…gently caress. Ok I got this.” “Open hailing frequencies.” “Open.” “This is Commander Riker, Enterprise…gently caress you!” “Worf fire all weapons!”
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Applewhite posted:Discovery also isn't canon unless they would have us believe that 1701 looked like it did in the pilot episode of Star Trek, then got a refit to look like it did in that episode of Discovery, then got ANOTHER refit to change it back to how it looked in TOS all in the space of like, three years. Disco takes place in a new prime time-line that has been advanced by Daniels' hologram encyclopedia that he left on the NX-01
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Mulaney Power Move posted:in one of the aubrey-maturin novels they're talking about one of the times they disguised themselves as a merchant ship and maturin says "how i remember it - turds everywhere, haha" poor nutrition science of the era also substituted bones as calcium in a lot of diets so there's a non-0 chance that all this decorative merchant turd was bleached white like dog poo poo in the 90's used to be
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SNOT CORN posted:Disco takes place in a new prime time-line that has been advanced by Daniels' hologram encyclopedia that he left on the NX-01 
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punishedkissinger posted:Rutherford is real and he is my friend He just wants to go swimming with girls!
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I binge watched all of Lower Decks this weekend.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I binge watched all of Lower Decks this weekend. You were correct to do this
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Hellblazer187 posted:I binge watched all of Lower Decks this weekend. 
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Just watched the one where Harry Kim and the baby dies and then they replace them with alt universe versions and go "good enough" Must be a real mindfuck for Harry They could have saved 2 more people without loving up the rift they were using, but they just didn't because  . I think if I were on Voyager and could basically duplicate two crew members scot-free, I'd want a second B'elanna for sure. The second one is a lot harder though, nobody else seems all that good at their jobs. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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PostNouveau posted:I think if I were on Voyager and could basically duplicate two crew members scot-free, I'd want a second B'elanna for sure. The second one is a lot harder though, nobody else seems all that good at their jobs. Tuvok. And if Doctor had his mobile emitter by then, grab a second one of those too.
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Endless Trash posted:You were correct to do this I agree. I worked through the last two weekends and I was fried. This was a good way to veg.
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PostNouveau posted:They could have saved 2 more people without loving up the rift they were using, but they just didn't because They sent over a few shuttles instead.
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PostNouveau posted:Just watched the one where Harry Kim and the baby dies and then they replace them with alt universe versions and go "good enough" Double Tuvix.
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Just watched the DS9 where they permanently alter Kurn's DNA, face and remove his memory and then just tell him he's a different person, apparently without even telling him. Unless I just missed the telling him part. Edit, kurn not morn lol pacerhimself fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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pacerhimself posted:Just watched the DS9 where they permanently alter Kurn's DNA, face and remove his memory and then just tell him he's a different person, apparently without even telling him. Unless I just missed the telling him part. It was a humane way to "kill" him. And gets made completely redundant like two episodes later.
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They eliminated Kurn from existing while also denying him the dignity of an honorable death. It’s like the worst of all possible choices to make for the guy. Good job worf!
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It's destroying the entirety of this person right and moral?
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