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Georgia is surprisingly discipĺined mask wise. Outside, everyones wearing them on their chin of course, or elbow, but in stores everyone has the decency to fuĺl mask. Vaccination is anothet thing, they were doing pretty well until they hit a full stop at 30 perecent, thats about it, the rest dont wanna.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I expect us getting curfew with police and army patrols enforcing it within a month or so, and no real improvements until like November 15 (vaccination deadline for when a lot of public and private employers will be legally entitled to fire the unvaccinated) + 4-6 weeks. At the current vaccination rate, all things considered, we’ll go “back to normal” in like 2023. I haven't been following this too closely but wasn't there some dumb runaround where you can't directly fire someone for being unvaccinated but you can not let them come into work and also write them up for not being present?
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Arzachel posted:I haven't been following this too closely but wasn't there some dumb runaround where you can't directly fire someone for being unvaccinated but you can not let them come into work and also write them up for not being present? Some employers did that, but it was not legal at any point, and still kind-of isn’t. Anyone who was unilaterally fired on COVID-19 status grounds, even in “must be vaccinated to be legally allowed to carry out primary duties”, can just ask VDI to sue their employer, but the case would likely go into AT. That precisely was the reason for why this summer they changed the pandemic management law, and recently adopted changes to relevant cabinet of ministers’s rules. In the current regulatory regime, taking the state of emergency into account in particular, however, this question is much more “streamlined”. If you’re employed by the state or by any municipality, regardless of institution or form of work (including full remote), you must be vaccinated by November 15, or face consequences up to being fired with no compensation. If you’re a private sector employee, your employer has an obligation to evaluate, at their own discretion, your risk profile, and inform you about the required protection level. If they judge that you must be vaccinated, you have 7 days from receiving that judgment to get your first jab, and you must receive your second jab within 7 days starting with the soonest medically possible date of your second shot. If you act in defiance of such a judgment in a way that results in you being neither vaccinated, nor in the process of becoming such, by November 15, your employer must remove you from your duties (atstādināšana no darba, so suspension without pay until January 11, or further if the state of emergency is prolonged). cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Oct 17, 2021 |
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I see Czechia is on a great trajectory too I guess that's just going to continue with sub-50% vaccination rates among younger people and probably close to 0 among the open 'er up crew but there's some time before poo poo gets real bad again
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mobby_6kl posted:I see Czechia is on a great trajectory too The country has been in full on denial and without any substantial restrictions since what, July? It was only a matter of time.
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Do I need to say that things are even worse in Belarus? 25% vaccinated, the only real restriction is obligatory masks in public spaces (since October 9, and they don't even fine regular people for breaking it, only businesses), and 1/3 of all hospital beds occupied by covid patients. Inconspicuously, the number of hospitalised covid patients that the minister of health provided is somehow 30% more than the official total number of all active covid cases.
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This is from Thursday. Niinistö was meant to meet Estonian president but this cancelled it.quote:Oct 14 (Reuters) - Latvian President Egils Levits tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday, his office said, prompting Finland's President Sauli Niinisto who had breakfast with him a day earlier to self-isolate.
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Looking forward to his work from home involving attempting to bully a couple more political parties into confirming his Constitutional Court nominee.
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Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? https://covertactionmagazine.com/20...chen-subhumans/
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khwarezm posted:Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? Skimming diagonally, “inaccurate” would be a very diplomatic adjective to use here.
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khwarezm posted:Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? Read the URL again and ask yourself this same question.
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khwarezm posted:Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? Let's see, it lacks any nuance and instead just parrots pro-Russian propaganda uncritically. I would say no, it's not very accurate. It has some real things in it, like the far right movements definitely have too much influence on Ukrainian politics (more than none is too much, honestly), but that's about it. It fails to contextualise, generalises and overblows that real issue, too, however. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Oct 17, 2021 |
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khwarezm posted:Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? If you want an accurate representation watch Russian Roulette 1-150 with Simon Otrovosky
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Read the URL again and ask yourself this same question. Isn't it the case that there's lots of straight up Nazis fighting for the Ukrainian side?
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khwarezm posted:Isn't it the case that there's lots of straight up Nazis fighting for the Ukrainian side? According to the Russians, yes.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:According to the Russians, yes. According to Russians Ukrainians are also simultaneously primitives incapable of being anything other than menial labor unless directed by their betters (e.g. Russians) and also secretly Russians who can't talk right because of secret plots by Austria-Hungary. Reality is that you'll find fighters with right-wing views in both armies (a certain Russian is infamous for having his picture taken murdering a puppy with the nazi flag hanging in background), but only one side's view is based on ethnic supremacism. (Hint: it's the side with history of imperialism based on ethnic cleaning and genocide).
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khwarezm posted:Isn't it the case that there's lots of straight up Nazis fighting for the Ukrainian side? There are many more on the pro-Russian side, which is also fighting a war on behalf of an empire. gently caress off to C-SPAM with this concern trolling bullshit.
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steinrokkan posted:There are many more on the pro-Russian side, which is also fighting a war on behalf of an empire. I don't mean this in a snide kind of way but is there anywhere I can read more about the hard right and Nazi adjacent forces on the Russian side?
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Well in WW2 The Nazis pushed more to the Soviet size due to their genocide of otherwise willing collaborators. Now let's flip forward and gee Russia wants to turn Ukraine into an integrationist police state and we see Nazi flags flying The point is when the threat ot cultural genocide is at your doorstep we turn towards the presented opposite even if it is not actually the opposite. *Sniffles* it is pure *sniffles* ideology.
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There were lots of Nazis fighting for Germany in Afghanistan. Nazis fuckin love doing army poo poo.
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khwarezm posted:I don't mean this in a snide kind of way but is there anywhere I can read more about the hard right and Nazi adjacent forces on the Russian side? Here's an article covering the fiirst two years, which were the most salient, and isn't regurgitated Russian propaganda written for drooling troglodytes: https://www.ifri.org/sites/default/files/atoms/files/rnv95_uk_likhachev_far-right_radicals_final.pdf The entire leadership of the Donbass "republics" was from the outset composed entirely of a mix of neo-nazis and Russian mobsters, funneled into positions of power by Russian secret services. In the following years the Russians consolidated their control by purging these pawns and replacing them with more reliable agents, but the colonial conquest itself was carried out by ultra-nationalist far-right goons, the same also helped (unsuccessfully) Yanukovich in other provinces during the revolution. This isn't even getting into the pretty much explicit policy of ethnic genocide against Crimean Tartars that even the more "normalized" Crimean government carries out. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 17, 2021 |
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There is also Wagner and the oligarch who funds them (Malofeev). It shouldn't be too hard to figure out why one would name things after that particular composer now, should it be?
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Anyone who thinks Russia is immune to Nazism is a Putin apologist basically.
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This is not an ideological conflict in any way. It's a national war between a big, powerful kleptocratic dictatorship and a smaller, weaker kleptocratic dysfunctional democracy, happening in a region that has long had a huge problem with militant far-right extremism. Ukrainian fascists support their side, Russian fascists support their side, because that's what nationalism is. Both are happy to fight and neither nation is going to turn away enthusiastic volunteers just because they're Nazis. Also, Russia is 100% the aggressor here. The only reason they paint it as an anti-fascist struggle is to a) demonize the enemy, appealing to memories of the Great Patriotic War at home, b) distract from the Nazis in their own ranks, and c) sow confusion and doubt in the west. That's it. Everyone sucks in mostly the same ways, but Russia is bigger so they also get to be an aggressive, manipulative bully on top of that. Welcome to Eastern Europe.
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Not So Fast posted:https://twitter.com/JasminMuj/status/1449123394469830659 Nothing exceptional. Bosnian Serbs can't secede from Bosnia because they I) don't have an army, II) don't have international support, and III) don't have legal grounds for it. They can make the country even more dysfunctional, though.
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Some Ukrainian nationalists were dumb enough to openly worship Hitler's testicle and their government was dumb enough to allow them to continue doing that. The Russians are much better at hiding their awfulness. Their brand of fascism successfully conceals itself behind a language barrier, a confusing foreign aesthetic and sometimes even behind leftist symbols. It’s a clever and dangerous predator. Despite being ubiquitous, it’s not yet understood in the West, while hitlerism is easily to identify. This is why Ukraine has a reputation for being a home to nazis while Russia (an actual fascist compost heap) managed to dodge that.
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khwarezm posted:Is this an accurate summary of the Ukrainian conflict? Come on, man, check your sources, that sure is a website with hard-hitting articles like this:  Or asking such hard questions such as "But was there really a genocide in the Balkans led by Milošević?" How the hell do you expect to have anything accurate?
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Gervasius posted:Come on, man, check your sources, that sure is a website with hard-hitting articles like this: Wholly chao, that's a headline.
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Europe section of that website reads like Sputnik or some similar biowaste producer. Of course article on Belarus protests starts with calling Protasevich neonazi  In other news, situation in Slovakia is also crap when it comes to COVID: Mostly unvaccinated (red) patients are filling hospitals  But interest in vaccination doesn't rise and it's still below 50% for the whole population  The current government's handling of previous wave was bad (although current health minister seems to be more competent that the first one), but it also doesn't help that some large opposition parties (like 2 neonazi parties and former ruling kleptocratic party) went full antivax. Unsurprisingly, regions with higher support of opposition parties also have lower vaccination rates and more COVID cases. Dwesa fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Latvia is literally number 1 worldwide in normalised 7 day infection rate. https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/zinas/latvija/spkc-latvija-ir-pirmaja-vieta-pasaule-covid-19-saslimstibas-zina.a426167/
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Latvia is literally number 1 worldwide in normalised 7 day infection rate.  Congrats, glad we aren't #1 for once
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Honestly very pro Russia pieces on Ukraine, are always kind of hilarious. They always condemn them having their own language and culture and when you expect to see what exactly was their crime against kindly unfairly abused Russia, it veers too close to Crimea, so the author just says they made a "wrong choice" whatever it means.
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Any insider info/gossip on what took down Miloš Zeman? Did he have any cardiac or cancer history, or is this COVID doing its thing?
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I read it could be hepatic encephalopathy caused by cirrhosis.
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As expected, we’re getting rather strict lockdown, French style, with security services patrolling for curfew and such. Final decision pending a government vote on October 20, October 21 - November 15 we’re having an 8pm-5am curfew, and basically everything excluding food shops is closed, and gatherings are limited to 10 individuals or 2 households, whichever limit is reached sooner, even outdoors. From November 16 onwards, the vaccinated will return to a relative normal, whereas the unvaccinated will be subject to further (compared to now, not lockdown) restrictions.
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Guys this just in RT says Navalny is a fascist!
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mobby_6kl posted:I see Czechia is on a great trajectory too Yeah, we gonna get ultra hosed again. Funnily enough, I am in Norway for a conference, and I don't think I've seen single mask past airport (and even at the airport, past the outgoing gate basically nobody wore one), so I wonder what the local numbers will look like in couple months.
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Xarn posted:Yeah, we gonna get ultra hosed again. It’s a sparsely populated land of aloof people with 70% of the population fully vaccinated.
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