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Start from the left edge of the platform below. You will hit the speed just before hitting the wall, so do a spin jump and wall jump to the ledge. Slide under the ledge (the speed will break the blocks) and quickly hit down upon exiting in the alcove. Change into morphball, set a bomb under the blocks and jump to prime the shinespark upward.
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Kin posted:Well it's this kind of little twitchy stuff that's not properly explained in the game, which is also not a good thing. For example, the shinespark puzzle I'm stuck on is this one: https://i.imgur.com/VlPkVDu.mp4
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Oct 17, 2021 23:35
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That's how I did it since I didn't even know at the point that it was possible to speed-boost and slide. I couldn't do it at first because no cross bombs, so when I got em I assumed that was one of the rewards meant for it.
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Oct 17, 2021 23:40
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That is basically how i did it except I shinesparked on the ground and jumped up because I didn’t know about boosted walljumps. You don’t have to go to the other room, though.
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Oct 17, 2021 23:45
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I'll give that a go tomorrow. There's definitely something up with me not being able to trigger the spark in that alcove.
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Oct 17, 2021 23:50
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Kin posted:I'll give that a go tomorrow. There's definitely something up with me not being able to trigger the spark in that alcove. My joycon is futzy in one direction (down and to the right). If i want to trigger a shinespark running to the right I have to start pointing up and to the right to make it work. Could be a similar issue for you.
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Oct 17, 2021 23:52
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Mr. Nice! posted:My joycon is futzy in one direction (down and to the right). If i want to trigger a shinespark running to the right I have to start pointing up and to the right to make it work. Could be a similar issue for you. Yeah it might genuinely be an issue with Joycon Drift (tm)
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Oct 18, 2021 00:01
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as someone who is generally Not A Speedrunner but likes to try for all the rewards in a metroid, is there a suggested or recommended sequence breaky/item path for sub-four hours? i made a pretty drat good clip through the game my first go round, but am not particularly confident if i throw myself back into it blind of the time-saving sequence break possibilities that that'll get shaved down enough with my current map familiarity might just do a "however long it takes" hard mode playthrough before trying for a fast run anyway
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Oct 18, 2021 00:03
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Kin posted:I'll give that a go tomorrow. There's definitely something up with me not being able to trigger the spark in that alcove. as strange as it seems, if you hit ZL when you're in that alcove and then hit down, you will still hit the shinespark charge. i guess you can unmorph while boosted and keep it (so probably keep holding left? might not need to). the THIRD video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBYTcRlvK8 tada Your Computer posted:walljumping doesn't need any directional input at all in dread - you simply press A near a wall and it jumps you in the opposite direction. to do the zig zag back and forth wall jump you don't need to touch the stick at all, you just need to press A .... oh. well. that would have helped lol, thanks. i was wishing i could turn the space jump off when doing walljumps, guess it was just that! Quotey fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 00:04
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Nikumatic posted:as someone who is generally Not A Speedrunner but likes to try for all the rewards in a metroid, is there a suggested or recommended sequence breaky/item path for sub-four hours? i made a pretty drat good clip through the game my first go round, but am not particularly confident if i throw myself back into it blind of the time-saving sequence break possibilities that that'll get shaved down enough with my current map familiarity As long as you don't go the wrong way for significant periods of time, doing everything straightforwardly should be fine for getting under 4 hours in both difficulties. The main thing to do is just to make sure you don't save after having gotten lost, if you lose track of where you were supposed to go just reload from your last save and go straight to the right place next time.
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Oct 18, 2021 00:29
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah it might genuinely be an issue with Joycon Drift (tm) Hmm might be, though I already replaced the left stick in the last 2 years or so and haven't played it anywhere near enough to get drift again. I'll try with my pro controller to see if it's a timing or hardware thing.
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Oct 18, 2021 00:44
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Quotey posted:as strange as it seems, if you hit ZL when you're in that alcove and then hit down, you will still hit the shinespark charge. i guess you can unmorph while boosted and keep it (so probably keep holding left? might not need to). the THIRD video This is probably the simplest and intended way. I used the hardest method in the first video posted since I didn't think to do the wall jump kick. I'm still stuck at 99%. For me the killer is the missile+ pack in burenia that requires 2 chained shinesparks on diagonals. It doesn't help that the space you're given to charge is just barely long enough. The sequence near the beginning where you slide to get through the gap, shoot straight down then boost to the left is a lot to do at once. I've never been able to preserve the boost coming out of the final slide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxM38gjOAY @1:46 c'mon I suppose it'll feel good when I finally nail it
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Oct 18, 2021 01:07
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A Bag of Milk posted:I suppose it'll feel good when I finally nail it Yes, it did. For me the hardest part was getting the boost going. I had very regular progression on getting the timing down each attempt I made when I got the boost to start at the begining. But I had like 5 false starts each time. Also you apparently can skip the 2nd ramp spark. You can just land and space jump over it, but that makes the timing very tight.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:12
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A Bag of Milk posted:This is probably the simplest and intended way. I used the hardest method in the first video posted since I didn't think to do the wall jump kick. You don't have to shoot the blocks, you can land on them and do a standing shinespark diagonally down and left to hit the ramp and keep going.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:18
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A Bag of Milk posted:I suppose it'll feel good when I finally nail it 
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Oct 18, 2021 01:18
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God I want more of this game. I don't want to replay it, I just want more of it.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:24
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Wonder if there could ever be DLC.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:40
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Calaveron posted:God I want more of this game. I don't want to replay it, I just want more of it. This is kindof where I'm at.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:50
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ROJO posted:You don't have to shoot the blocks, you can land on them and do a standing shinespark diagonally down and left to hit the ramp and keep going. Ok, yes, thank you. That's brilliant. It only took me about 10 more tries using this method, but I got it. Much easier. I also think ducking to preserve the charge before the second slide rather than after might be a bit easier. There's still plenty of time to hit the next spark.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:53
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looking forward to every 2d metroid game getting remade in this engine. i'll gladly cough up my 80 CAD for each and every one.
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Good Sphere posted:Wonder if there could ever be DLC. Ridley squawks forlornly in the distance
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Mr. Nice! posted:This is kindof where I'm at. My first run (~11 hours), I remember thinking "God, there's a lot of game here." Second run (Hard, ~5 hours) it felt way smaller. 3rd Run (normal, 3 hours), it feels really lean. To be fair, Super took me something like 5 hours after not playing it for 20 years so I probably shouldn't complain that my first run was twice that of Super's but I do want there to be more now. Plus, my OCD wants there to be another level above Cataris on the map  I don't know if DLC would ever be in the works but we got it for BotW. It's just a shame that I'm basically "done" with the game one week in. It's a great game but I don't really have a reason to keep playing it besides getting faster.
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Holy poo poo I just figured out what ZL does while jumping, and I think I’m at the ending of the game. This whole time I was pushing down, down.
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Good Sphere posted:Wonder if there could ever be DLC. that top-right section of the global map being so empty makes me think (hope) they're planning this too 
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Oct 18, 2021 02:13
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Ciaphas posted:that top-right section of the global map being so empty makes me think (hope) they're planning this too It's very conspicuous isn't it?
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Oct 18, 2021 02:16
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Good Sphere posted:Wonder if there could ever be DLC. Need some way to squeeze in everyone's favorite ZSS gameplay.
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Calaveron posted:God I want more of this game. I don't want to replay it, I just want more of it. My eternal curse, games like Super Metroid (and this now that I'm at what I assume is the final boss) is that I don't finish it because I don't want it to end. I mean,I will finish it, but after that just sort of want to go around as the harbinger of death that Samus is and explore the planet more.
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Just finished a hard mode run in about 7hrs, 45min. Got 39% of items, but also tried to figure out how I want to sequence break on my next speed run.
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My Twitter feed is now full of people unironically saying Other M was just a misunderstood masterpiece. This tells me we should have gatekept Metroid harder, don't know how else to respond to this.
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restarted prime after beating this and i forgot that samus lost all her powers by getting bonked into a wall a little too hard must've been putting off suit maintenance or something
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Good Sphere posted:Holy poo poo I just figured out what ZL does while jumping, and I think I’m at the ending of the game. This whole time I was pushing down, down. I'm at the final boss and never noticed this. Goddamn.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:My Twitter feed is now full of people unironically saying Other M was just a misunderstood masterpiece. Fire. And lots of it.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:My Twitter feed is now full of people unironically saying Other M was just a misunderstood masterpiece. I've seen people try to claim that the only issues with Other M were all because of the translation, there's a weird subculture that wants to die on the hill that actually it's good and they're best ignored.
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Eopia posted:I've seen people try to claim that the only issues with Other M were all because of the translation, there's a weird subculture that wants to die on the hill that actually it's good and they're best ignored. Like I said earlier in this thread, if Other M's only problems were it's hilariously bad story I could gave it a pass. I really, really can't give it a pass man. It's just, really not good all around lol.
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Great Beer posted:I'm at the final boss and never noticed this. Goddamn. What does it do? I don’t have the game handy.
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Eopia posted:I've seen people try to claim that the only issues with Other M were all because of the translation, there's a weird subculture that wants to die on the hill that actually it's good and they're best ignored. I think it's a byproduct of increased availability. It used to be that the most obscure entries in a series got praised to the heavens, because they let the person who'd actually played them act superior. But now, even obscure stuff is relatively easy to find, and thus the kind of elitist prick who has to be into bands nobody else has heard of is forced to resort to praising lovely games and films because they're the biggest remaining avenue to show that your taste is more refined than the plebians.
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Oxxidation posted:restarted prime after beating this and i forgot that samus lost all her powers by getting bonked into a wall a little too hard In the next Metroid game, Samus's powers are subscription services. She loses her powers at the beginning because she's out of Galactic Federation WiFi range for too long and her suit can't verify her sub is still active.
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Oct 18, 2021 03:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:What does it do? I don’t have the game handy. Instant morph
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Oct 18, 2021 03:36
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Mr. Nice! posted:What does it do? I don’t have the game handy. It’s the morph ball in/out button. Unless you’re running, then it’s slide.
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mastajake posted:It’s the morph ball in/out button. Unless you’re running, then it’s slide. 
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