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Just Another Lurker posted:That's just us Paddys taking the piss out of tourists. If the rumours about what the workers there get up to first thing in the morning before the first tourists get there are true, it's also putting piss in them too.
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A friend recently went to wherever that stone is but she didn't kiss it. Alhamdulilah, if what you say is true! Granny reminisces  Which reminds me and apropos of nothing but this particular friend is an Evangelical Christian. And she used to be in a rented HMO with a fundamentalism muslim guy. She said they had lots of interesting discussions. (Which I can believe because she and me used to spend hours upon hours standing on the stairs discussing the world when we were in an HMO together.) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 17, 2021 |
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There’s an ancient legal principle that it’s better for ten guilty people to go free than one innocent person be wrongly punished. The UK welfare system has inverted that.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:do you mean 1 in every 1543 british deaths was from covid? Meanwhile in New Zealand, a country with competent leadership that took the pandemic seriously: total number of covid deaths in that same one-year period? Three. Was 25, is now 28. Even if you multiply the numbers by 14 or so to account for the population difference, we still have more deaths in a day than they did in a year. So I'm not cherry-picking anything - things are poo poo. Like your posts.
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Payndz posted:Here's a depressing statistic that Facebook Memories just reminded me about : Even before the pandemic, if "excess death caused by Tory policy" was to be put on a death certificate where appropriate it would have been (IIRC) the 6th most common way for a British person to die. You were more likely to die as a result of government policy than you were of breast cancer or testicular cancer.
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Payndz posted:Take UK population and divide by number of covid deaths at that time. Pretty simple; smaller "1 in X" result is worse. One year on, UKP/CD is a gently caress of a lot worse, in large part because of our government's lovely "wear a mask, or don't, whatever, we just want economic number go up so eat out to help out" policies. do you mean cumulative deaths? Because I don't think thats very useful. Like if we just discovered polar bears and 1 person got killed by a polar bear then it would be 1 in 60million (or whatever) then a second person got killed by a polar bear then it would be 1 in 30 million. I don't think that would be cause to start chucking money at hunting polar bears. I get things are poo poo, but I think your stats are not really indicative and intended to cause distress. Unlike my posts.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:lol what could they possibly want to talk to you about for two hours? Having read most of your posts, quite an error on their part. I'd be up for knife crime-ing you. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I gave up on the benefits when I actually had a job interview in my field that clashed with my signing on appointment and they got so lovely. They demanded I try to change the date of the interview first... When I couldn't they begrudgingly allowed me to go, providing I got a letter from the employer stating that's what I was doing. They then 'lost' the letter and tried to ring me several times during the interview, sent me a lovely text saying my benefits were being cancelled, changed my officer to someone else, demanded my prospective employer ring them, then write a letter to them again. Then they said its all good...and then they cancelled my benefits anyway. They then said I had to re-sign up from the start and sorry, it'd take another month to get my next payment now. It's... Something. I got loving lucky I got the job. But then I had to get a p46 off the JSA to get on payroll and jesus christ. I found it the other day looking through some paperwork with all its notes and letters, just seeing it made me mad.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:29
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Not the person I expected to have the correct take on the "end twitter anonymity" issue: https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1449822951394664454?s=20 Anyway, that "1 in 482 people in the UK dead from Covid" or whatever isn't a weird stat, it's just the "deaths per 100k population" stat expressed in a different way effectively.
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The UK is getting even more dystopian on school lunches than the US https://twitter.com/digi_ad/status/1449657390769524739?s=20
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Ohtsam posted:The UK is getting even more dystopian on school lunches than the US https://twitter.com/digi_ad/status/1449657390769524739?s=20 There seems to be a big push to measure people's skulls, what with this and the x-raying of immigrants.
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Ohtsam posted:The UK is getting even more dystopian on school lunches than the US https://twitter.com/digi_ad/status/1449657390769524739?s=20 I'd put money on the question they were actually asked being something like "Do you think strangers should be allowed into the cafeteria of your child's school?"
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If only there were some way to eliminate the need to identify people coming to the school cafeteria to eat before they may be permitted to be fed. No, we must spend money on facial recognition cameras.
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OwlFancier posted:If only there were some way to eliminate the need to identify people coming to the school cafeteria to eat before they may be permitted to be fed. No, we must spend money on facial recognition cameras. The most Tory way to achieve that would be to close the cafeterias
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:I'd put money on the question they were actually asked being something like "Do you think strangers should be allowed into the cafeteria of your child's school?" * To be stored on an unencrypted server for the purposes of facial recognition and deepfake pornography by and for the Epstein group.
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Ohtsam posted:The UK is getting even more dystopian on school lunches than the US https://twitter.com/digi_ad/status/1449657390769524739?s=20 Free school meals would probably be cheaper and easier? Low tech solution with no downsides aside from decreasing the amount of misery in the world, which granted would make a lot of britons really mad.
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Oct 18, 2021 06:16
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A very consistent trend is that the tories will spend any amount of money to avoid giving money to people who actually need it.
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OwlFancier posted:If only there were some way to eliminate the need to identify people coming to the school cafeteria to eat before they may be permitted to be fed. No, we must spend money on facial recognition cameras. It's to reduce cafeteria staff. Now you can just have one dinner lady, face scanner app in one hand, ladle in the other! Costs reduced, which can be skimmed off for manager bonuses! Trebles all round cheers! And with the UKs long running history of computer networked systems, these children will never miss a single school lunch!* *oh lawd they going to starve!
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Ohtsam posted:The UK is getting even more dystopian on school lunches than the US https://twitter.com/digi_ad/status/1449657390769524739?s=20 It is to replace fingerprint readers which is how they currently do it - at least at my school. I assume they think it'll be faster and completely contactless. Not convinced that first one is true.
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Sad Panda posted:It is to replace fingerprint readers which is how they currently do it - at least at my school. I assume they think it'll be faster and completely contactless. Not convinced that first one is true. Another question is, how good will it be at facial recognition of faces of kids of colour given that the failure rate on people of colour of these things is pretty high. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03186-4 Will they not feed a child who perhaps fails the scan right in the dinner line or will they feed the child in any case and then investigate further?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Another question is, how good will it be at facial recognition of faces of kids of colour given that the failure rate on people of colour of these things is pretty high. Anyone failing the scan will be arrested for being on school grounds without a permit. After the parents pay a fine they can have their child. If it is found the system had an error, the parents can file an appeal for a modest processing fee.
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I would bet the remaining tenner in my wallet that the firm providing the facial recognition system has at least one director in common with the firm providing the school meals
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DesperateDan posted:I would bet the remaining tenner in my wallet that the firm providing the facial recognition system has at least one director in common with the firm providing the school meals And I bet they are related to or former roomies with a tory minister or MP. Or have made a very generous donation to the party.
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Sad Panda posted:It is to replace fingerprint readers which is how they currently do it - at least at my school. As I recall they justified this by saying "can't get your money stolen by bullies if you aren't allowed to have money in schools!". Some parents were also pleased they could view the exact purchases made by their children, good to get them trained in being constantly under surveillance I guess. In the last school I worked in they also allowed students to have negative balances which the parents had to pay off, so it's also a good way of introducing debt peonage to schools.
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Re Raab and human rights, it appears to be another one where they lie about which way round things are in order to rile people up and then break stuff. As someone mentioned above, we could now theoretically withdraw from the whole thing and then do crimes, but assuming we don't do that straight away... Raab is doing the whole "unelected foreign judges" spiel again, when in fact the domestic human rights act was brought in to bring UK law(s) into alignment with the European court, so that human rights cases actually happen in the UK. So I guess the game plan is abolish the human rights act, which will force people to take cases to Strasbourg, at which point they get their buddies in the tabloids to print death threats against ECtHR judges for a few weeks, getting them a nice anger-boost in the polls. And then accidentally leaving the Council of Europe because they've painted themselves into a corner, just like Brexit. E: bonus points for muddy conflation of the judges as "EU" judges, thus also suggesting we haven't brexited hard enough yet
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OwlFancier posted:A very consistent trend is that the tories will spend any amount of money to avoid giving money to people who actually need it. A slightly inaccurate statement. It's more correct to say that the Tories will not spend £x million to help the poor if they can pay their rich mates £2x million to pretend to do so.
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Failed Imagineer posted:
Wasn't the NIP agrees by elected politicians?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:do you mean 1 in every 1543 british deaths was from covid? I get that you want to argue against the point but lol at looking at 1 in 1543 of the population died and reflexively deciding that it should mean 1 in 1543 deaths. Covid related deaths up to this time last year were approx 44,000 so if they were 1/1543 of the deaths recorded then that would mean 68,000,000 people - the entire population in the UK - died of something else in 2020. Though that would explain much of 2021.  NotJustANumber99 posted:I get things are poo poo, but I think your stats are not really indicative and intended to cause distress. Unlike my posts. For reference, 80,830 people died last year with covid on the death certificate and ONS show 608,002 people died in 2020 https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n896. That makes 13% (or over 1/8) of all deaths from covid*. This is a leading cause of death and unlike other leading causes of death (e.g, Dementia/Alzheimers at 12.7% and all heart disease at 10.1% in 2018) is contagious. I hope this is sufficiently indicative of how poo poo things are. *If you wanted to be picky you could argue that we're only going to use the deaths within 28 days thing the gov now use, which was still 76,477 people: 12.5% or exactly 1/8 of all deaths.
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learnincurve posted:Yup, with the door open as well so most likely is related. That was me! And likely relatedly I got a letter a couple of weeks ago that I opened without really paying attention. The letter came to my address, but not addressed to me. It was from HMRC and was about Tax Credits Overpayments and stated that the individual the letter was sent to owed £800 of overpayed tax credits to be paid back to the DWP. The letter came to my address but as it's addressed to a completely different person who never lived here, and even has someone elses National Insurance Number on it, I was just going to ignore it 
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crossposting from the other thread: if they actually go through with removing anonymity on social media because of the Amess bullshit, I will be forced to leave Facebook and Twitter until I leave the country, as will most other trans people across the UK without a GRC and/or a legal name change, because my deadname will be tied to my social media presence and I will not be able to express myself online without everything that implies hanging over my neck I don't need to say this on a forum of anonymous goons, but I'll say it anyway: online anonymity is an incredibly good thing and should not be removed for any reason
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I'm not sure how they could demand an end to online anonymity while also preserving the common law tradition that you can call yourself whatever the gently caress you want as long as you're not intending to commit fraud or certain limited cases involving courts or public offices. I know the government doesn't give a poo poo about the longstanding legal traditions of the land as much as they pretend to, but I can't imagine even Priti Patel going full Tudor "certayne bandes of hommes conduct gross falshede upon a stage "
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Doesn't 'ending online anonymity' require persuading US tech firms to do something that would directly affect how much money they can make. Why would they be compelled to cooperate? Unless they mean bringing in a China style firewall and just blanket blocking and non state approved social media (something I'm sure many liberals will get big hard ons for).
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Guavanaut posted:I'm not sure how they could demand an end to online anonymity while also preserving the common law tradition that you can call yourself whatever the gently caress you want as long as you're not intending to commit fraud or certain limited cases involving courts or public offices. Well you could get around that by demanding (as Facebook already do in certain circumstances) that you submit proof of ID but allowing you to post pseudonymously, fortunately social media companies have a completely flawless record of diligently protecting the privacy of such data.
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The "end online anonymity" brigade never seem acknowledge the inconsistency that the most problematic platform for their pet issues is Facebook, which is overwhelmingly not anonymous. The whole thing is just elite anxiety about the plebs being able to talk back.
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To be honest, as long as my anonymity remains this dead comedy forum and the nerdy music p2p network I use, I couldn't care less if social media just went away. Online was better when it was just geocities web rings. Ban below the line comments while we're at it.
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It won't happen because the right have more to lose, what with their 10 sockpuppets per account to do any harassment they don't want blowback for and the endless parachute accounts when their main gets banned.
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They're never going to end online anonymity. It's just like the online porn block idea: a sop to idiots who don't understand how the internet works that would be completely implausible and have huge collateral damage (including to people the Tories care about) that they'll spunk millions of pounds on studies and think tanks to work out and then quietly sweep under the carpet when it doesn't.
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