Bilirubin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYUHEC4RAkM

BAASS Program on Utilizing Scientific Remote Viewing posted:

It was very fortunate that BAASS counted among its ranks of senior advisors none other than Hal Puthoff, the father of the CIA’s Remote Viewing Program and arguably the world’s authority on the development of Remote Viewing methodology. Puthoff’s enormous experience in the STAR GATE and other remote viewing programs, together with an international cadre of collaborators, meant that BAASS could “jump start” a remote viewing program with only minimal set up time.

From time to time during the STAR GATE program, remote viewers had detected exotic events and technologies relevant to the AAWSAP BAASS initiative. These included detection of apparent basing facilities for exotic craft, description of apparent exotic craft accidents, and observation of exotic craft surveillance of military targets, the latter correlating with independent national resource records.

Protocols for the use of remote viewing as an information-gathering tool responsive to AAWSAP BAASS objectives could have included the assignment of Remote Viewing (RV) tasking to previously calibrated RV team leaders/teams; the use of blind targeting (i.e., RVer kept blind to specific target) so as to minimize “analytical overlay” (imagination artifacts) due to expectations or pre-biases, i.e., no “front-loading”; the generation of complete RV session records in the form of tape recordings, drawings, etc., to be made available for later independent analysis; the integration of data from multiple RV sources; the independent evaluation of data stream by analyst(s); and follow-up efforts to provide for independent verification and validation on the basis of “ground truth” reality whenever feasible. As indicated in Chapter 3, the AAWSAP contract did not include a remote viewing development program, primarily due to the cost. However, approval was granted to BAASS to conduct a limited feasibility test.

In March 2010, Joseph McMoneagle, one of the premier remote viewers in the U.S., was asked to observe a target designated as “22610” using traditional blind targeting protocols. “22610” was actually Skinwalker Ranch. Blind targeting protocols mean he had no knowledge that the ranch was his target. As expected, McMoneagle’s sketch of the Skinwalker Ranch, description of the environment, animals present, and characteristics of the two ranch managers and two security guards were excellent. But he indicated that a fifth individual was also present. McMoneagle described a male, 60–70 pounds, with a height of 4'3" with no hair. Age was not able to be determined. Exact physical features were unclear, as opposed to those of the managers and guards. McMoneagle said that the fifth individual could not be seen by ranch personnel but did attempt test communications with them to see their response. He indicated that the communication was not precise or clear, and to the individuals on the ranch it would seem to come from above and behind their heads.

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Mysterious structures in the sky that have puzzled astronomers for decades might finally have an explanation – and it's quite something.

The North Polar Spur and the Fan Region, on opposite sides of the sky, may be connected by a vast system of magnetized filaments. These form a structure resembling a tunnel that circles the Solar System, and many nearby stars besides.

"If we were to look up in the sky," said astronomer Jennifer West of the University of Toronto in Canada, "we would see this tunnel-like structure in just about every direction we looked – that is, if we had eyes that could see radio light."

...Using modelling and simulations, the researchers figured out what the radio sky would look like, if the two structures were connected by magnetic filaments, playing with parameters such as distance to determine the best fit.

From this, the team was able to determine that the most likely distance for the structures from the Solar System is around 350 light-years, consistent with some of the closer estimates. This includes an estimate for the distance of the North Polar Spur earlier this year based on Gaia data, which found that almost all of the spur is within 500 light-years.

The entire length of the tunnel modelled by West and her team is around 1,000 light-years.

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The decision to sell the property after 20 years of ownership and the oversight of two different investigations (NIDS and BAASS) wasn’t that difficult for Bigelow. He wanted to focus his energy and finances on Bigelow Aerospace projects.

“I was very disturbed toward the end because of something that happened to some of the government people,” Bigelow said in an interview with George Knapp in 2021. “Everybody took things home with them; I took things to my house, things happened to my wife and to me. Everybody took things home. We all did, but we didn’t know it was like gonna be kind of permanent. We didn’t know that this going to stay with you for maybe years and years or rest of your life. Who knows? And it’s not that it happened on the ranch, it was when they left the ranch, I do say hitchhikers. And these are government people and it affected them in very dramatic ways. Very dramatic ways.”

Bigelow has also admitted the mystery of the ranch was frustrating in that it provided tantalizing glimpses of strange phenomena and of its own intelligence but it defied all attempts made by NIDS and BAASS to open some form of communication or to even define what was underway, or why.

“It gets frustrating,” Bigelow said, “because you have so many of these things happen. And where is it leading? What are you supposed to make of it? You know, after a while . . . what is the point here?”

valp posted:

If ancient humanity actually had a better grasp on the true nature of existence than us, as you admit is possible, then why not consider the ancient concepts of reincarnation and karma? Or how the golden rule appears in basically every culture? These principles alone are sufficient to justify the existence of hippy star-trek communism.

You can't actually kill anyone forever because we all reincarnate. Everything you do to others will be done to you, all violence is circular but so too are generosity and kindness. The dealer gives you a freebie because when he goes back to being a player karma will send him to a table where the dealer gives freebies.

fanfic insert posted:

So with the population increase in the last century there'd be a whole bunch of new souls or whatever that had to be made, so less experienced and less in tune with nature. Or, it's all one big soul having a bloated self or whatever and spreading itself thin by creating a bunch of meat puppets that are now sub-standard quality.

Wheeee posted:

book is good if you’re into the topic, like mentioned it’s short and breezy, and much of it is building context around the organizations involved

oh and while he’s only directly mentioned a few times knows a gently caress of a lot more than he implies and his education in microbiology and immunology may in fact be relevant in why he was tapped for this

neutral milf hotel posted:

ok the peanutties are using that fake discovery channel "documentary" about mermaids as evidence of merfolk

https://twitter.com/sandiawisdom/status/1449343793795379205

Pooky posted:

what in the poo poo is this?!

Pontificating rear end posted:

Welp, I assume it's a remote communication from this young lady right here

https://twitter.com/SandiaWisdom/status/630484101913382912?s=20

Wheeee posted:

Blue Orbs Are Not Benign

Barry Foster posted:

hosed up for the blue orbs to punish the father for the sins of his nosey-rear end daughter

Hodgepodge posted:

no mantis claws. such a letdown.

Pontificating rear end posted:

maybe not but they can send youtube links telepathically

Pontificating rear end posted:

Welp, I assume it's a remote communication from this young lady right here

https://twitter.com/SandiaWisdom/status/630484101913382912?s=20

Bringing Something Home—The Infectious Agent Model posted:

Most people who spent more than a day on Skinwalker Ranch brought “something” home with them from the property. The effect was almost universal, and universally unpleasant. Even during the NIDS days when Kelleher and Eric Davis spent literally hundreds of days on night watches on Skinwalker Ranch (1996–1999), their wives would occasionally remark waking up at night and seeing “people” in their bedrooms, or black shadows walking through the house. These post-ranch events were noticeable, but mild, during the NIDS years. But they escalated dramatically with the AAWSAP BAASS program at the ranch in 2009.

All five actively serving intelligence agency personnel who visited the ranch during the AAWSAP BAASS program experienced profound anomalies while on the property. And even more importantly, all five brought something home with them.

Jonathan Axelrod and his family are the “poster children” for the eruption of anomalies in the home following trips to Skinwalker Ranch (Chapter 1). For more than a dozen years following his July 2009 and subsequent trips to the ranch, Axelrod’s wife and (then) teenage children were subjected to nightmarish “dogmen” appearing in their backyard; to blue, red, yellow and white orbs routinely floating through the home and in the yard; to black shadow people standing over their beds when they awoke; and to a relentless barrage of loud, unexplained footsteps walking up and down the stairs in their house. What was once a normal middle-class home in suburban Virginia became an inferno of bizarre unexplained phenomena. And Axelrod and his family were certain that the trigger for this transformation was his first trip to Skinwalker Ranch. It is indeed lucky that the Axelrod family was, and is, extremely stable, psychologically well-adjusted and grounded and prone to matter-of-fact reactions to these events.

In vivid contrast to the reaction of the Axelrod family is the reaction of Juliett Witt and her then roommate to the intense poltergeist activity that erupted in their home following her two-day visit to Skinwalker Ranch in August 2009 (see Chapter 6). The sudden eruption of poltergeist activity—during which two wine bottles were flung across the room, ceiling fans would turn on, TVs turn off on their own, lights going off or flickering, books showing up piled at the base of the stairs, clothing moved and laid out on the daughter’s bedroom floor with no one else in her house—has continued to this day. The paranormal intrusion into Witt’s house originally caused a severe emotional reaction in her roommate and provoked the young man to leave the house. This emotional outcome of a Skinwalker transmission event was a warning to other military personnel who were contemplating spending time on the ranch.

Health Effects

The health effects of “bringing something home” were immediately apparent when Jim Costigan and his wife Laila experienced a very close encounter with a blue orb in their quiet Maryland neighborhood in September 2009 (Chapter 8). Her upper arm was briefly grazed by a low flying blue orb as it flew past her and disappeared into the neighborhood. Almost immediately Laila became ill and experienced a constellation of unusual symptoms before being eventually diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis, an autoimmune disease in which the immune system attacks the thyroid gland.

The Axelrod family also suffered health effects with the wife suffering flare-ups of Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (Lupus) and Raynaud’s Disease. Both Axelrod teenagers also suffered intense flu-like symptoms at different times following anomalies in their home, with the most serious medical symptoms occurring in the younger teenager after being attacked on the night of February 7, 2011, by blue and red orbs in his bedroom.

Without breaking medical confidentiality and HIPAA, it can be unequivocally stated that a large number of people who brought something home from Skinwalker Ranch also began to experience autoimmune disease in one or more family or household members. These autoimmune diseases included Graves’ disease (thyroid), Sjogren’s syndrome (salivary and tear glands), Hashimoto Thyroiditis (thyroid), rheumatoid arthritis (joints), and lupus (heart, lung, muscle). Because of medical confidentiality issues and the need to observe HIPAA requirements, and secondly, because the numbers are too low to evaluate cause-and-effect significance, there will be no more discussion of the autoimmune effects in these families.

During the AAWSAP BAASS program, the phenomenon of ranch visitors bringing something home with them became the rule. Even ranch owner and BAASS founder Robert Bigelow reported numerous anomalies and unusual activity in his home in the months and years after visiting Skinwalker Ranch. In January 2021 in an interview on Mystery Wire, Bigelow opened up about this phenomenon to George Knapp: “Well, yeah, so hitchhikers being that you take, you take things home with you. Everybody took things home with them; I took things to my house, things happened to my wife and to me in different places. So everybody took things home. But we didn’t know that, gee, it was going to be kind of permanent. We didn’t know that it was going to stay with you for maybe years and years or rest of your life. Who knows?”

Before and after the AAWSAP BAASS investigations on Skinwalker Ranch, George Knapp made several visits to Skinwalker Ranch, some lasting overnight. Subsequent to the trips, Knapp reported that his wife experienced multiple apparitions in their home, including sightings of blue orbs outside the window of their place in Las Vegas.

Kelleher and Knapp have separately interviewed more than 10 security officers who had spent two-week tours of duty on the ranch as a part of the AAWSAP BAASS program, and each security officer confirmed that they had brought “something” home from Skinwalker Ranch with them. The officers confirmed that they or their partners had experienced poltergeist and other paranormal activity in their homes following their tours on the ranch.

James Lacatski experienced a profound anomaly on the ranch in 2007, which was a significant instigation for the formation of the AAWSAP BAASS program. Lacatski and his wife experienced a few, but not many, anomalies in their home in the years following his Skinwalker Ranch sighting. But DIA official Susanna Ash, who was hired at DWO in January 2011 and sat in the office cubicle at DIA next to Lacatski between February and June 2011, reported that on the night of February 6, 2011, the night before Lacatski’s February 7 briefing to the DHS (see Chapter 16), Eddie Ash, Susanna’s brother who previously had no experience whatsoever with anomalies, had an escalating series of close encounters with UAPs in rural Mocksville, North Carolina, that continued for months afterwards. Eddie’s quiet country home suddenly had large orange UAPs hovering outside at night. Aerial photos of his house were sent to his mobile phone from unknown numbers. And his pet dog once disappeared (through multiple locked doors) while Eddie slept, only to be found in the morning whimpering outside. Could Lacatski have transmitted “something” to Susanna Ash who subsequently passed it to her brother?

Axelrods and the Infectious Agent Model

To tease additional details out of the widespread pattern of “people bringing something home,” we need to revisit the Axelrod family. The Axelrod teenagers endured some very scary episodes in their bedrooms and were wise enough to keep quiet about them among their circle of friends.

Imagine Paul Axelrod’s shock when he was approached by one of his high school friends in 2011 who told him that on the previous night, he had looked out his bedroom window and had witnessed a large wolf-like creature standing outside his bedroom looking in at him. A few weeks later another friend told Paul of seeing strange blue lights flying around his backyard. These revelations by the two friends came without prompting from Paul. In other words, they cannot be dismissed as “me too” phenomena.

The experiences by Paul’s school friends suggests that the perception of bizarre creatures and blue orbs was transferable beyond the Axelrod family home and out into the neighborhood. It’s unlikely that these events could be explained as a series of improbable coincidences. Instead these occurrences led Kelleher to consider an infectious disease model to try to shed some light on the phenomena, as they bore a striking resemblance to transmission of an infectious agent between individuals. The “symptoms” of the “infection” comprised the eruption of poltergeist and other paranormal events in the immediate environment of the newly infected individual.

Infectious Agent Model

During 2020 and 2021 everyone in the world became excruciatingly familiar with the jargon of coronavirus infectious disease modelling. After thousands of newspaper, TV, and digital media reports detailing the first COVID-19 index cases in Washington state, Wuhan, California, and New York, the concept of an index case for an infectious disease is now familiar to everyone. Just as the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the wet markets in China may have been the source of the COVID-19 outbreak, could Skinwalker Ranch be the source of an infectious agent?

Utilizing this terminology, Axelrod was the index case who was first “infected” on Skinwalker Ranch and carried the infectious agent 2,000 miles home to Virginia with him. Within a few days or weeks, the agent had spread from Axelrod to his wife and both his teenage sons, and all three began experiencing a bewildering diversity of anomalies in their home. Within a few more weeks the infectious agent had spread to the neighborhood and infected two teenage friends, probably at school, who lived within a couple of miles of the Axelrod home. It should be noted that the symptoms of infection from Skinwalker Ranch are not respiratory distress or death, as with COVID-19, but rather profoundly altered perceptual environments.

In standard infectious disease parlance, the basic reproduction number (denoted by R0) is a measure of how transmissible a disease is. It is the average number of people that a single infectious person will infect over the course of their infection. In the “Axelrod outbreak,” the basic reproduction number R0 could be denoted as 3. Therefore, any study of the putative transmission of the Skinwalker Ranch infectious entity would be very amenable to standard infectious disease modeling. The tools of infectious disease modelling are well established.

It goes without saying that the numbers of people involved in these observations are too few to draw any firm conclusions, but the metaphor of an infectious disease could be a useful one for future research on the human effects of visiting the Skinwalker Ranch.

As is now generally known, Robert Bigelow sold Skinwalker Ranch to Brandon Fugal in April 2016, and four years later the History Channel began airing TV documentary episodes entitled The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. Many anecdotal reports have begun emerging regarding individuals on Skinwalker Ranch “bringing something home” with them in the past few years. The reports of this same infectious phenomenon have become so plentiful that it is now known as the “hitchhiker” effect. Not only do these more recent reports of hitchhikers constitute strong confirmation of the “infectious model” suggested here, but they add new impetus to begin an epidemiological modelling effort.

Obviously, in order to drill down into this infectious disease possibility, a much larger epidemiological modeling effort would have to be initiated, one in which every individual and their family members who spent time on Skinwalker Ranch could be followed closely and interviewed every few months over a several year period.

Social Contagion Model

An interesting paper published in 2016 in the Journal of the American Medical Association7 showed that gunshot violence follows an epidemic-like process of social contagion that is transmitted through networks of people by social interactions. The objective of the study was to evaluate the extent to which the people who will become subjects of gun violence in Chicago can be predicted by modeling gun violence as an epidemic that is transmitted between individuals through social interactions. According to the results, “social contagion” accounted for 63.1% of the 11,123 gunshot violence episodes in Chicago; subjects of gun violence were shot on average 125 days after contact with their “infector,” the person most responsible for exposing the subject to gunshot violence. Some subjects of gun violence were shot more than once.

The authors write: “Our findings suggest that the diffusion of violence follows an epidemic-like process of social contagion that is transmitted through networks by social interactions.” In other words, the transmission of violence, although not an infectious entity, follows a predictable social contagion model that is amenable to analysis and, subsequently, to intervention.

Researchers who balk at the notion of an infectious disease-like “transmission” of events following visits by individuals to Skinwalker Ranch might be more amenable to the examining the data via a social contagion model. But regardless of the epidemiological model utilized, the central point is that the AAWSAP BAASS program on Skinwalker Ranch was the first to unmask a transmission-like phenomenon that was occurring in individuals who visited the ranch, and that this transmission is profoundly amenable to analysis utilizing standard infectious disease or social contagion modelling. Further, in some cases, the transmission into some households was correlated with the emergence of autoimmune disease in family members.

Pontificating rear end posted:

Welp, I assume it's a remote communication from this young lady right here

https://twitter.com/SandiaWisdom/status/630484101913382912?s=20

SavageGentleman posted:

pnti kayfaybee / lore: Oh, they have a fleetmaster who takes care of their scout ships. Dude is called Dell, is pretty ancient for P'nti and a bit grumpy ( although he has developed a certain interest in major league baseball due to the statistics vs randomness).Also Pnti scout ships seem to be alive and conscious in some way. No seams, 'birthed' from some kind of dimensional rift shipyard - and they can suffer, too, which means crashed ships sometimes have to be euthanized

Wheeee posted:

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Petey posted:

thx for posting these excerpts Wheeee

Petey posted:

thx for posting these excerpts Wheeee

“A Disturbance in the Force” posted:

The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) ran for just over two years, including a three month no-cost-extension that concluded on December 21, 2010. Even as the program was shut down at DIA, AAWSAP principals began looking for alternative locations at which to house what had become both a highly successful program but also a political hot potato. Several attempts were made by members of AAWSAP in 2011 to secure a place at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) after the shutdown of the effort at DIA. They are described in this and the next chapter.

On February 7, 2011, Lacatski walked up to the nondescript entrance of the headquarters of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in downtown Washington, D.C. The erstwhile ballistic missile physicist and DIA analyst was on a highly secretive mission. He had scheduled a one hour briefing with two of the top officials employed at DHS, the keepers of the secrets at Homeland Security. Normally, joe citizens would never get to meet these two influential government officials, and Lacatski and others had worked some magic behind the scenes to make this meeting happen.

Lacatski sat down at the conference table in the SCIF with the DHS’s Jim Bell and Sacha Mover and began the briefing with the history of AAWSAP and BAASS, including the role of Robert Bigelow and Senators Reid, Inouye, and Stevens. As Lacatski began describing in detailed technical terms the multiple UAP investigations conducted by BAASS under the AAWSAP rubric, the level of astonishment in the two DHS officials began to rise.

Then, about an hour into the briefing, technically when the meeting should have ended, Lacatski abandoned all caution and the flood gates opened. What followed was arguably one of the most astounding and riveting briefings of “nuts and bolts” UAPs, paranormal phenomena, poltergeist activity, and more ever heard in a United States Government SCIF. The bizarre creatures that were encountered on and around Skinwalker Ranch were described in excruciating detail, and Lacatski recounted cases involving multiple encounters with blue orbs as well as other details of UAP investigations that were extracted from the detailed monthly reports that BAASS had submitted to DIA for the two-year duration of the AAWSAP.

Three and half hours later and late into the evening of February 7, the meeting broke up, and the two shell-shocked officials passed through the security gates and headed home for what was later described by both as sleepless nights. Lacatski said the “data dump” he had given the two DHS specialists was probably the most intense, harrowing explication of paranormal weirdness ever encountered by that level of government official.

Then within a few hours, two sets of bizarre occurrences erupted that were directly connected to the information presented at the briefing, but not to the geographic location.

In the Axelrod family’s quiet house in Virginia about 60 miles from the DHS building, the two teenage boys had gone to bed. But Paul, the younger boy, slept very badly that night; in fact, when his mother, Ruth, went into Paul’s room on the morning of February 8, she had great difficulty waking him up. She became worried and noticed that her son appeared to be extremely angry. He refused to wake up fully, saying repeatedly, “they kept me up all night.”

When he was finally awake, Ruth saw with alarm that Paul’s eyes were red and very puffy, his face appeared swollen with several angry red welts on his cheeks. Even more disturbing, his mother saw multiple bright red contusions on his stomach and chest as if somebody had repeatedly and forcibly hit the boy. By this time, the entire family were in Paul’s room concerned that something serious was amiss.

Paul was interviewed several times over on the phone during the following two weeks; he also had a face-to-face meeting with the BAASS contracted physician, Dr. Black. Paul had gone to sleep quickly after going to bed but had been awakened by a bright light in his room. The first visitors were a pair of blue orbs that cast a bright light through the room as they flew near the bedroom ceiling. Paul watched with apprehension as they flew near him, sometimes skimming him lightly. Paul’s next memory was awakening to two small red orbs flying near the ceiling in addition to the blue orbs, and they too appeared to “dive” at him repeatedly, causing the terrified teenager to hide under the bed covers. This cycle unfolded several times with the boy dozing fitfully. As the night wore on, Paul began feeling pain on different parts of his skin as the orbs brushed past him. When asked why he did not yell for help, Paul replied that he had tried, but he did not seem to be able to yell. Later that morning, the family linked the angry red welts on the boys’ torso, neck, face, and arms to the close proximity of the orbs.

Paul also complained that two or three black shadow humanoid figures were in his room throughout the night, and that they were “screaming” as if they were being tortured and in a lot of pain. Paul, who is partially deaf, said the screaming from the figures took place telepathically in his head. He never saw the faces of the shadowy figures. The combination of the attacks from the blue and red orbs and the screaming black shadowy humanoids in his bedroom left the teenager exhausted, traumatized, and sick by the morning.

His mother reported to Kelleher in a telephone interview that Paul was very nauseous and running a high fever that morning. She kept him out of school that day and made arrangements with the local Urgent Care to bring her son in.

On that same night, February 7, at almost precisely the same time, a bizarre theater played itself out in Homestead 2 on Skinwalker Ranch. Throughout the previous night and day, the dogs on the ranch had been acting very frightened, staying inside their outdoor kennels, which was usually an indication that something was amiss. That night the lieutenant of the guard, Philip Idiohorst, called Kelleher to report a foreboding atmosphere at the ranch, as if something was about to happen. The second guard on duty confirmed that something “weird” was afoot. Kelleher instructed both guards to keep a low profile, and when on patrol to have canines with them at all times.

The guards left the command and control double-wide trailer for their nightly patrol shortly after 10 pm. It was a cloudy night with snow underfoot, and at 8 degrees, a biting freezing cold. Idiohorst instructed his guard companion to head for the east gate to look for any vehicle activity or evidence of trespassers, but both security officers knew that with those kinds of temperatures, trespassers were unlikely.

As Idiohorst approached Homestead 2, he snapped on his flashlight to negotiate the treacherous entrance. His dog companion began nosing around the outside walls of the structure, and the lieutenant knew from past experience that his dogs rarely ventured inside these old buildings. Idiohorst shuffled into the gloomy interior and placed his flashlight carefully on a small shelf in the corner of the room and turned it off. As he looked out the south window, the hairs on the back of his neck had begun to rise. The small room suddenly filled with a distinct “presence.” Idiohorst could feel his heartbeat increase, and the cold clammy atmosphere seemed to thicken. He was no longer alone. Idiohorst’s mouth ran dry as he looked carefully around the room. He could see nothing except blackness, but he knew that something else was in the room with him.

Taking a deep breath, Idiohorst mentally commanded “show yourself.” Within less than ten seconds, the flashlight on the shelf 15 feet behind him abruptly blinked on then off. Temporarily blinded and now with heart pounding, Idiohorst fought to keep calm. His body coursed with adrenaline. Taking another deep breath, Idiohorst again requested “show yourself.” Instantly the flashlight blinked on, then off, and repeated the sequence two more times. The intensity of the moment almost overwhelmed him. He stood in the darkness trying to regain his equilibrium. He tried to figure out a location for what was in the room beside him but could only feel the “presence” all around him.

Abruptly, Idiohorst grabbed the flashlight, turned it on, and scrambled out of the old building, half running, and half stumbling. He knew that his patrol was over for the night. With the Motorola two-way radio on his belt, he called the security officer down at the east gate who reported that all was quiet.

By the time Idiohorst entered the warm, brightly lit headquarters, he had fully regained control of the fight or flight instinct, and his adrenaline had slowed. He had a severe headache and felt exhausted. After cursorily listening to his companion’s short and eventless debrief, Idiohorst headed for his bedroom in the command and control trailer.

He slept fitfully through the night and awoke several times with a start. He had a series of nightmares of being back at Homestead 2 and at the mercy of some predator; when he awoke the morning of February 8, he felt like he had been beaten up. Speaking with Idiohorst over the phone, sometime later, Kelleher said that the stress and anxiety was unmistakable in Idiohorst’s voice and tone.

Kelleher realized that what had happened on the night of February 7 constituted a very unusual occurrence on Skinwalker ranch. Actual communication had taken place between Idiohorst and “something” in Homestead 2, as opposed to the endless assortment of “random coincidences” that traditionally plagued the security officers. This marked the clearest conversation between a security officer, scientist, or investigator and the presence on the ranch for at least five years.

Kelleher wondered if it was complete coincidence that the two unrelated incidents, in Virginia and in Utah, had occurred almost immediately following Lacatski’s meeting with DHS in Washington, D.C. Had the meeting created a “disturbance in the force”?

The other hypothesis, of course, was that the incidents were entirely unrelated.

Barry Foster posted:

Yea seconded

I'm not sure I believe a word about Skinwalker Ranch (although I accept that may be post-hoc due to the recent and stupid TV show) but it's still amazing fun to read

Wheeee posted:

I haven’t watched that show and I’m sure it’s spectacularly stupid, but there are too many serious names with serious careers talking about this now for it to be anything but real or a massive misdirection psyop beyond the scope of any known existing military coverup

Like a more skeptical me posted much earlier in the thread, even the most boring and lame plausible outcome of this entire UAP thing, a coverup of extremely advanced American technology, is pretty big news

Wheeee posted:

I haven’t watched that show and I’m sure it’s spectacularly stupid, but there are too many serious names with serious careers talking about this now for it to be anything but real or a massive misdirection psyop beyond the scope of any known existing military coverup

Like a more skeptical me posted much earlier in the thread, even the most boring and lame plausible outcome of this entire UAP thing, a coverup of extremely advanced American technology, is pretty big news