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Regional forms aren't buffs for the original or anything but if you're a fan of a pokemon and they get a neat new variation it still feels pretty rad and it's cool to take a pokemon and put a spin on them. Regional forms are pretty sick tbh.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 11:16 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 09:35 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Regional forms aren't buffs for the original or anything but if you're a fan of a pokemon and they get a neat new variation it still feels pretty rad and it's cool to take a pokemon and put a spin on them. Yeah, as a long term Raichu fan giving me a different psychic surfing Pokemon that's kinda Raichu doesn't really make the dude I was trying to make work work after all this time but he's still really cool in his how right and I'm still glad to have him
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 11:20 |
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Box of Bunnies posted:Yeah, as a long term Raichu fan giving me a different psychic surfing Pokemon that's kinda Raichu doesn't really make the dude I was trying to make work work after all this time but he's still really cool in his how right and I'm still glad to have him A-Raichu is pretty sick in a Dynamax format or paired with Tapu Koko (or perhaps Indeedee-F). Not meta, but gets some work done.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 11:46 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Regional forms aren't buffs for the original or anything but if you're a fan of a pokemon and they get a neat new variation it still feels pretty rad and it's cool to take a pokemon and put a spin on them. Yup. They usually don’t get any change in base stat total and only minor readjustments to the stats they do have, if that. Some of them are objectively better than the original counterparts and, as of Galar onwards, some have exclusive evolutions.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 15:55 |
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mfcrocker posted:A-Raichu is pretty sick in a Dynamax format or paired with Tapu Koko (or perhaps Indeedee-F). Not meta, but gets some work done. A-Raichu with Pincurchin is a terror of lower tiers
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 16:01 |
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Thinking of new regional variants, in SWSH VGC a popular team archetype was G-Weezing with Regigigas, due to G-Weezing's Neutralizing Gas ability. It works well, but after awhile the meta shifted to using regular Weezing instead because the /fairy tying was actually a detriment due to the steel weakness. It's easier to throw a Shuca berry on normal Weezing and only worry about the rare psychic type attacks than it is to have to choose Shuca or Babiri and still be vulnerable to one or the other. Also normal Raichu is used way more often in VGC than A-Raichu because Lightning Rod is a great ability.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 16:23 |
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Plasbad posted:Thinking of new regional variants, in SWSH VGC a popular team archetype was G-Weezing with Regigigas, due to G-Weezing's Neutralizing Gas ability. It works well, but after awhile the meta shifted to using regular Weezing instead because the /fairy tying was actually a detriment due to the steel weakness. It's easier to throw a Shuca berry on normal Weezing and only worry about the rare psychic type attacks than it is to have to choose Shuca or Babiri and still be vulnerable to one or the other. Also normal Raichu is used way more often in VGC than A-Raichu because Lightning Rod is a great ability. It's amazing to me they literally crippled Regigigas out of the gate and have never course corrected.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 19:34 |
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Flopsy posted:It's amazing to me they literally crippled Regigigas out of the gate and have never course corrected. I love Regigigas's design so much, and had been trying to make it work for years. Dynamax format VGC has been the best for the old giant, he's a real legitimate threat now. Also they finally gave it the ability to learn Protect this generation, so that's a plus!
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 19:36 |
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If you want to use Regigigas Melmetal is right there for you to smash that mf double iron bash button
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 20:48 |
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Countblanc posted:If you want to use Regigigas Melmetal is right there for you to smash that mf double iron bash button If Melmetal was VGC legal I'd definitely be using it, but unfortunately it's another "mythical" Pokemon like Mew.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 20:56 |
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Flopsy posted:It's amazing to me they literally crippled Regigigas out of the gate and have never course corrected. Had it come out a few years later, it would probably have been given two forms: Slumbering and Awakened that would activate with an item. That way it could still have a weak and powerful states, but they could give it abilities that could actually benefit it. Anything would be an improvement over it being kneecapped in every battle. Even Slaking is better off than that.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 22:50 |
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Regigigas now has access to Protect and Rest, which really helps out in stalling for Slow Start to wear off (although 5 turns is still an eternity in Pokemon).
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 22:52 |
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It'd be usable, if niche, if Slow start's timer just didn't reset when you switch
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 00:06 |
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I was going to make a joke about "Fast Start" Regigigas but I guess that's just Literally Slaking
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 00:22 |
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I forget, did slow start still count down in rotation battles if yes, that's another reason they never should've been removed
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 00:33 |
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Just play doubles and pair it with Weezing for that Neutralising Gas combo
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 00:38 |
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Oh hit it with Gastro Acid. Or Worry Seed. Or Simple Beam, which could actually be hilarious if done right (but mostly you'll get crippled by the opponents Intimidate even harder). Doubles is so much fun for all the zany stuff you can do.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 00:56 |
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Geostomp posted:Had it come out a few years later, it would probably have been given two forms: Slumbering and Awakened that would activate with an item. That way it could still have a weak and powerful states, but they could give it abilities that could actually benefit it. Anything would be an improvement over it being kneecapped in every battle. Even Slaking is better off than that. The Touhoumon fangame TPDP actually addresses the issues with Regigigas and makes it into a strong competitive Pokemon, but it's not necessarily good for the game to have that be a real competitive archetype. If the archetype is good then every game turns into a minigame to get out of the Slow Start and win with a really overpowered Pokemon, and it stops being fun after the first few sweeps. For reference, the Regigigas replacement is Power Yukari and it is a Special version of Regigigas, with slightly worse defenses than Regigigas and 150 base spatk instead of 160 base atk. It has real types rather than normal but there's no direct comparison as the type chart in that game is totally different from Pokemon. The big change is instead of Slow Start doing nothing after 5 turns, it changes the ability to "Serious," which gives +1 speed and +1 spatk at the end of each turn. The typical moveset is Protect/Rest/2 attacks, but also commonly runs the equivalent of Confuse Ray.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:03 |
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Plasbad posted:Oh hit it with Gastro Acid. Or Worry Seed. Or Simple Beam, which could actually be hilarious if done right (but mostly you'll get crippled by the opponents Intimidate even harder). Doubles is so much fun for all the zany stuff you can do. I was just thinking something simple like the fact that most legendaries get at least two abilities. Literally ANYTHING but slow start would be an improvement. And even that mere crust of bread is a bridge too far apparently. It's up to us to come up convoluted ways to make the poor Golem king not suck and that's just dumb. It's been years for gently caress sakes.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:07 |
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Plasbad posted:Oh hit it with Gastro Acid. Or Worry Seed. Or Simple Beam, which could actually be hilarious if done right (but mostly you'll get crippled by the opponents Intimidate even harder). Doubles is so much fun for all the zany stuff you can do. that was fun
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:18 |
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Sometimes a pokemon's gimmick is bad, and that's fine I guess? Like kinda sucks for Regigigas but I don't think it's really an issue that he hasn't been buffed or whatever.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:19 |
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Flopsy posted:I was just thinking something simple like the fact that most legendaries get at least two abilities. Literally ANYTHING but slow start would be an improvement. And even that mere crust of bread is a bridge too far apparently. It's up to us to come up convoluted ways to make the poor Golem king not suck and that's just dumb. It's been years for gently caress sakes. It’s like half and half for legendaries having Hidden abilities. Generally if their ability is unique(or levitate/beast boost) they won’t have one.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:23 |
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i think slow start would be better if it buffed regigigas' defense a little bit during the starting turns, but even without that, it makes it unique and interesting to play around with, so it's not completely bad the only legendary ability that's bad is pressure, because it's just boring and usually pointless
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 01:36 |
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RatHat posted:It’s like half and half for legendaries having Hidden abilities. Generally if their ability is unique(or levitate/beast boost) they won’t have one. The stinkiness is baked in then. Ugh. Blaziken386 posted:i think slow start would be better if it buffed regigigas' defense a little bit during the starting turns, but even without that, it makes it unique and interesting to play around with, so it's not completely bad I guess if you're looking for a challenge the poor thing's enjoyable. And I really do love the design but it's ability breaks it's legs so hard I have trouble using him IN GAME. It's just nuts.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 02:07 |
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I now have a Raichu in a dream ball with celebration and wish, and I’m real happy about it. It’s still not my Raichu’s with fly or surf from Soul Silver, but I’ll take what I can get these days. Don’t forget about those Pikachu and Eevee codes from Best Buy.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 06:31 |
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Blaziken386 posted:the only legendary ability that's bad is pressure, because it's just boring and usually pointless
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 09:17 |
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slow start is 5 turns, right? if it were 4 turns would Regigigas be viable? 3 turns?
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 10:51 |
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https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1450446638221303809?s=20
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:09 |
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Blast those 18th century video recorders.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:10 |
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Zuzie posted:Blast those 18th century video recorders. But Lord Arceus gave me a smartphone from the future. I guess the video recording software is bad.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:12 |
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Does anything interesting happen in that video
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:19 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:Does anything interesting happen in that video A person gets murdered by something cute, I guess.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:20 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:Does anything interesting happen in that video There's a snorunt.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:21 |
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It hints at the cameraman discovering some undiscovered and cute Pokemon but then he gets attacked, maybe by the Pokemon's parent or something.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:25 |
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I gotta say: I enjoyed that. I'm a sucker for found footage, and the implication of some chump getting murdered by the adorable new Pokemon he just discovered is pretty hilarious.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:34 |
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Hints as presented in the video: -Easily mistaken for Growlithe or Vulpix -Red tipped tail -Very cute -White fur on head and around neck -Round yellow eyes Sounds like it could be a Hisuian Zorua. It's already got noticeable head and neck fur, a red marking on its head that could easily be moved to the tail, is about the size and shape of a Vulpix, and being cave-dwelling could change its eye colour.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:44 |
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This video seemed perfectly set up to have Froslass as the yuki-onna/blair witch, so much so that I feel like someone in marketing had a great concept for halloween and their boss wasted it hinting at a new pokémon.
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 14:59 |
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It's Pikachu
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 15:31 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:It's Pikachu Wait....or could it be PikaBLU!? The mon of legend will finally appear! Making it red was the perfect way to catch us all off guard!
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 15:38 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 09:35 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:It's Pikachu FUUUUUCK
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# ? Oct 19, 2021 15:49 |