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https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/macbook-pro-hdmi-2-0-port/ Confirmed that the HDMI port on the new MMBPs is HDMI 2.0 and not the most current 2.1 which would have given us 4K @ 120Hz.. To get the 48 Gigabit needed for 2.1 they probably would have had to use up another TB port?
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I guess the Max branding is well established with the phones, but M1X sounds a lot like MMX if you're an old.
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Binary Badger posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/macbook-pro-hdmi-2-0-port/ Does MacOS support VRR on external displays?
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Binary Badger posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/macbook-pro-hdmi-2-0-port/ Apple will make many things obsolete but making their $5,000 XDR display obsolete is even a bridge too far for them. They won't do 120hz till they can sell the display to run it. incoherent fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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Binary Badger posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/macbook-pro-hdmi-2-0-port/ In theory TB4 supports DP 2.0 which should support 4K 120, at least based on wikipedia. If anyone puts out an HDMI 2.1 USB-C dongle that might work?
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I got the high spec 14" 1TB with 16GB of ram but I'm so torn about getting 32gb of ram with the lower 14core gpu and 512gb drive for less than $100 more.
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I love how thirsty the keyboard marketing is:quote:For the first time, Magic Keyboard brings a full‑height function key row to MacBook Pro — with the tactile feel of mechanical keys that pros love. It includes new keyboard shortcuts for Spotlight, Siri, Dictation, and Do Not Disturb. And Touch ID has a new, tactile ring that guides your finger for a fast, easy, secure way to unlock your Mac. But drat if they aren't serenading right under my balcony
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Oct 19, 2021 02:09
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Don't forget your official Apple Polishing Cloth. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM6F3AM/A/polishing-cloth
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i'm not trying to be rude here, but who needs this much power? i'm fascinated by the technology, sure, but what kinds of programs require this kind of power? 3d modeling/advanced graphics, i get. but do people do those on laptops? what other use cases are there?
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I can finally post again, so I just want to say I can't believe I called the $2000 starting price on the 14 inch. Boy does it look like a lot more machine than I need, and boy do I want it. I'm very curious what the actually difference will be between the 8 core pro, the 10 core pro, and the 10 core max in terms of real world tasks. (I'm assuming for photo editing not much, for video renders more?) And I doubt I need more than 16 gigs of ram... but I'll probably do 32 gigs to be on the safe side. As for the 1TB versus 2TB.... ugh. Maybe just grab a 1TB SD card for stock photos I want to keep on my device, and safe some money. Either way, I won't buy anything till reviews are out and everything's been sorted. But drat are these good machines. Other fun fact, while the 14 inch is thicker than before, it's actually slimmer than the beloved 13 inch MBP 2015 I'm writing this on, and weights I believe exactly the same. Now if Apple will just come out with cheaper external displays and mini pro's, and the bigger iMac I'll be even more indecisive. I'm happy they are keeping the cheaper AirPods around too, and I'm curious if the new ones fit as well. (I prefer that style over the more in ear feel of the AirPods Pro). Can you pair two mini speakers yet or no?
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abelwingnut posted:i'm not trying to be rude here, but who needs this much power? i'm fascinated by the technology, sure, but what kinds of programs require this kind of power? 3d modeling/advanced graphics, i get. but do people do those on laptops? what other use cases are there? The answer for 99% of random consumers is "Video games" The others, like you mentioned, are people using them for work machines. The bigger advantage is that especially these days, most businesses would prefer to issue a laptop only, and thus let people easily move between home/work in an office while not losing any capability.
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Gwaihir posted:The answer for 99% of random consumers is "Video games" not to sound too out of touch and old, but are there games on macs now? i mean, we all know the amount of games paled in comparison to pc's amount of games years ago. has that changed?
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Same. The silicone tip style buds never fit me right, and even if you get custom IEMs, I don’t like the feeling of it. You can hear your heart beat and your teeth knocking into each other when you have that much isolation, and it gets sweaty. Regular-rear end AirPods are some of the most comfortable things I’ve ever worn, and they already sound surprisingly good. If the new ones step up the audio game further, they’ll be awesome.
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glassyalabolas posted:Don't forget your official Apple Polishing Cloth. I'm not going to fuckin lie: Imma gonna spend 20 bucks on a cloth. These screens just pick up everything. I always thought people were disgusting pigs when I had to handle a MacBook with its screen off. Then I bought one.
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Oct 19, 2021 02:57
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abelwingnut posted:not to sound too out of touch and old, but are there games on macs now? i mean, we all know the amount of games paled in comparison to pc's amount of games years ago. has that changed? There's been some pretty impressive work emulating certain games. For instance, Dolphin apparently runs great on it with very little effort. But in terms of new PC games I don't think so. I'm curious if things like fallout 4 or Skyrim run on it. when I do upgrade in 2022 sometime, I'd love to have those if I'm traveling. it would save me bringing my switch too.
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Going by the performance comparison bar-graph thingys for various applications on the marketing site, it sorta feels like the M1 Pro would do just fine for almost everything I do (mostly developing, not a lot of GPU-heavy stuff), and the Max has exactly the same numbers for the CPU comparisons as the Pro — the only benefits you get with the Max are in GPU performance. Am I reading that right?
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Data Graham posted:Going by the performance comparison bar-graph thingys for various applications on the marketing site, it sorta feels like the M1 Pro would do just fine for almost everything I do (mostly developing, not a lot of GPU-heavy stuff), and the Max has exactly the same numbers for the CPU comparisons as the Pro — the only benefits you get with the Max are in GPU performance. Am I reading that right? You can only get 64GB of RAM on the Max, but other than that, yeah, I think so.
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incoherent posted:I'm not going to fuckin lie: Imma gonna spend 20 bucks on a cloth. These screens just pick up everything. I always thought people were disgusting pigs when I had to handle a MacBook with its screen off. yeah i've had my ipad pro for a week and i am real fuckin tempted to just get another cloth to keep with it where does it all even COME FROM
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abelwingnut posted:not to sound too out of touch and old, but are there games on macs now? i mean, we all know the amount of games paled in comparison to pc's amount of games years ago. has that changed? Stuff exists, but it's long been a chicken and egg problem. Why make games for a platform that has no good graphics options? Why demand good GPU options for a platform with no games? Etc, etc. Now the baseline is vastly more capable than before, and the top line is a full powered gpu that's equivalent to last generation's top end desktop card.
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Gwaihir posted:Stuff exists, but it's long been a chicken and egg problem. Why make games for a platform that has no good graphics options? Why demand good GPU options for a platform with no games? I was checking on this situation, and Mac gaming seems to be in much worse shape than it was 5 or 10 years ago. If you go back, all of the Valve and Blizzard games were launching on Macs too, and a good number of other bigger budget games. Now not only does big stuff not land on Macs, but games that used to work on Mac no longer do. Team Fortress 2 and left 4 dead lost Mac support and won't run anymore. Guild Wars 2 dropped their Mac client this year, which had been working well since launch. Freaking Rocket League lost Mac support, and that is the perfect kind of broadly appealing game that should be succeeding here.
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Just catching up on the new Macs, they look great, but oh so pricey. I wonder if you can actually render 3d stuff on them? Like leave V-Ray working overnight and such? Before the M1, it seemed a very bad idea to render on a laptop, all that overheating, but now... Data Graham posted:I love how thirsty the keyboard marketing is: They had a solid 5 years of Terrible Keyboards, this is a selling point to me (affected by a couple of crappy keyboards on a Macbook pro, saved by AppleCare) This plus the ports and huge ESC key tells me the Jony Ive era at Apple is officially over
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Ohh, also: RIP Touchbar, we hardly knew ye edit: AND Magsafe is back! good times, back to 2015 Comfy Fleece Sweater fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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abelwingnut posted:i'm not trying to be rude here, but who needs this much power? i'm fascinated by the technology, sure, but what kinds of programs require this kind of power? 3d modeling/advanced graphics, i get. but do people do those on laptops? what other use cases are there? Pretty easy to use more than 16GB of ram just running vms, forcing you to get 32GB on these new laptops.
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Data Graham posted:Going by the performance comparison bar-graph thingys for various applications on the marketing site, it sorta feels like the M1 Pro would do just fine for almost everything I do (mostly developing, not a lot of GPU-heavy stuff), and the Max has exactly the same numbers for the CPU comparisons as the Pro — the only benefits you get with the Max are in GPU performance. Am I reading that right? The Max also has more memory bandwidth I think, so CPU stuff will potentially run faster on it but it is hard to say by how much. Probably not worth the cost of upgrading unless you are going for 64GB of ram.
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glassyalabolas posted:Don't forget your official Apple Polishing Cloth. I’m buying one to polish off my nuts.
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Perplx posted:Pretty easy to use more than 16GB of ram just running vms, forcing you to get 32GB on these new laptops. I work in software development and have a ton of services and IDEs and text editors and docker images running. It adds up
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If your the developer that can chew through 25gb+ of ram then I say go for it. One of best philosophies my absent CEO bestowed on me when buying hardware is "Get you devs the best. You're paying that person a lot of money to sit around.". C-levels and devs are fast tracked the nice toys. Everyone else, I'm going to need receipts.
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Also lol that this is the first MBP chassis in like a decade that has just been a rounded rectangle in profile, without that fake-out chamfer that makes the edges look ~~*SUPATHIN*~~ What with the iMac finally ditching the knife-edge rounded-back optical illusion style and going to a plain slab, it feels like a decade of early-iPad-derived groveling-at-the-feet-of-pointless-thinness has finally come to an end (I know someone who will sneer at these machines for being almost thick enough to have RJ45 jacks but not having them though) (no it wouldn't work)
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incoherent posted:If your the developer that can chew through 25gb+ of ram then I say go for it. One of best philosophies my absent CEO bestowed on me when buying hardware is "Get you devs the best. You're paying that person a lot of money to sit around.". C-levels and devs are fast tracked the nice toys. There’s a ton of stuff that benefits from ram and lower memory pressure . Even Lightroom and photoshop. akadajet fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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abelwingnut posted:i'm not trying to be rude here, but who needs this much power? i'm fascinated by the technology, sure, but what kinds of programs require this kind of power? 3d modeling/advanced graphics, i get. but do people do those on laptops? what other use cases are there? I get it but I’m coming from a 2018 MBA with 16 GB and the thing is like a chrome book with how fast it goes. This is still going to complement my desktop but I’m erring on the side of performance this time.
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Data Graham posted:Also lol that this is the first MBP chassis in like a decade that has just been a rounded rectangle in profile, without that fake-out chamfer that makes the edges look ~~*SUPATHIN*~~ Getting that hack Jonny Ives out of Apple has been the smartest move they’ve made. His nonsense was unsustainable.
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Hed posted:I get it but I’m coming from a 2018 MBA with 16 GB and the thing is like a chrome book with how fast it goes. This is still going to complement my desktop but I’m erring on the side of performance this time. Don’t apologize for getting what you want. (As long as you’re not buying android) akadajet fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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akadajet posted:Getting that hack Jonny Ives out of Apple has been the smartest move they’ve made. His nonsense was unsustainable. I miss him saying Aluminium tho
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I miss him saying Aluminium tho You can pay a European on Fiver to do this for you for reasonable rates.
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Has anyone gone from 15-16" to 13-14"? I'm thinking about downsizing. I use my laptop mainly for software development and also some DAW stuff. most of the time my laptop is just a second screen but I do like to work from the couch pretty frequently, and if I'm travelling it's my only screen. But also if I'm travelling the added portability is nice.
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I think I'm going to wait for next year's update. Just spending way too much money this year to really justify it at all considering it would most likely be used to maybe watch some movies, make the occasional video and compile some code... I think my complaint now is no longer the macbooks but the way Apple has handled MacOS as a developer environment. It does seem like a great device if its what you need, but I figure I'll wait until I'm traveling more before I splurge. Kinda bummed a little about the lack of FaceId given the big notch but probably won't stop me if its not in next year. I'm actually interested in seeing what universal binaries and all this extra horse power will do for gaming (I'm hoping its more than Apple's usual show off the graphics but don't get any developers to develop for it kinda thing)
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Strong Sauce posted:I'm actually interested in seeing what universal binaries and all this extra horse power will do for gaming (I'm hoping its more than Apple's usual show off the graphics but don't get any developers to develop for it kinda thing) It's hilarious how Apple and the biggest gaming engine developer who could enable thousands of games to easily, effectively target MacOS also are engaged in a corporate death feud.
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