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Khanstant posted:Paramount should just buy the rights to Orville and do a two-parter to yank them from the adjacent-universe into trek mirror-universe, then finally yanked into full blown trek universe. Star Trek Ovrille season 1 will be great. Might even see the Borg and Kaylon get into a fight or union together, could be fun. No
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Then a gundam shows up and has an epic fight with the Iron Giant while Don't Stop Believing starts playing.
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Hakkesshu posted:Replacing Alara with another Xelayan also felt a bit, I don't know, rushed. She doesn't come off as the same character or anything, but I still get the sense that her parts were definitely intended for Alara to be there. That's definitely the case for Talla's first couple of episodes, but by Deflectors she's coming into her own as a character. In the back half of the season there's a very definite vibe between Kelly, Talla, and Claire as the older, wiser officers. That dynamic is a big part of the show's jump in quality. If nothing else, Orville did a much better job writing off their original security officer than, say, TNG did. Home is a really great hour of television. You just never see a show blindside the audience with a twist like that; you go from "I must not have heard him right" to "OMG he's got a gun" in seconds. That's writing, direction, and acting all coming together beautifully.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:28
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Kurieg posted:Then a gundam shows up and has an epic fight with the Iron Giant while Don't Stop Believing starts playing. That's JJTrek 4.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:59
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Guy's you are forgetting about the part where the Cylons show up and play All Along the Watchtower
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Could the Orville beat a Star Destroyer
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There's already Orville in the official star trek universe, it's called Lower Decks??
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The Bloop posted:Could the Orville beat a Star Destroyer Yes, so long as Gordon is there to hug the donkey.
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Baronjutter posted:There's already Orville in the official star trek universe, it's called Lower Decks?? Orville is closer to being Voyager than it is to being the Cerritos, functionally
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The Bloop posted:Orville is closer to being Voyager than it is to being the Cerritos, functionally Except that The Orville is good, unlike Voyager.
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Iron Crowned posted:Except that The Orville is good, unlike Voyager. Well, yes, I was just saying as it's in-universe counterpart
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Iron Crowned posted:Except that The Orville is good, unlike Voyager. Captain Janeway did nothing wrong, that anyone can prove.
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Oct 18, 2021 19:34
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angerbeet posted:Captain Janeway did nothing wrong, that anyone can prove. I have information that will lead to the court martial of Kathryn Janeway--
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Oct 18, 2021 19:39
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people who don't janeway are probably just bitter amphibian children mad mommy and daddy ditched you. you were bad babies, deal with it.
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Khanstant posted:people who don't janeway are probably just bitter amphibian children mad mommy and daddy ditched you. you were bad babies, deal with it. we really don't need to let the discussion devolve like this
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People hate voyager for it's first two seasons forgetting that the first two seasons of TNG and DS9 had some real stinkers in them too.
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Kurieg posted:People hate voyager for it's first two seasons forgetting that the first two seasons of TNG and DS9 had some real stinkers in them too. That’s not true, some of us hate Voyager for it’s first seven seasons.
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I actually think the first couple seasons of voyager had some great story ideas, just poorly executed. The later stuff was decent all around but pretty bland
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Kurieg posted:People hate voyager for it's first two seasons forgetting that the first two seasons of TNG and DS9 had some real stinkers in them too. This argument would work if Voyager got better.
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For a long time I thought the first couple of seasons of Voyager were the best (and they still do in many ways feel like they do the premise more justice than the later ones). However in the past 18 months I've found myself watching bits and pieces of Voyager and am appreciating it a lot more. At the time it felt like the lack of consequences and continuity and stakes were a stale relic of outdated TV making, but the grimdark style of the last decade+ means it feels light and fun comes with a sense of nostalgia I'm loving.
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Senor Tron posted:For a long time I thought the first couple of seasons of Voyager were the best (and they still do in many ways feel like they do the premise more justice than the later ones). When the real world is looking good people tend to want to watch grim dark shows. When the real world is poo poo people look for optimism and hope from their media. We'll ping-pong back to grim dark at some point right now we seem to be swinging back towards lighter media.
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pixaal posted:When the real world is looking good people tend to want to watch grim dark shows. When the real world is poo poo people look for optimism and hope from their media. We'll ping-pong back to grim dark at some point right now we seem to be swinging back towards lighter media. This assumes the world will ever look good again Unless you're super rich I guess
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Senor Tron posted:For a long time I thought the first couple of seasons of Voyager were the best (and they still do in many ways feel like they do the premise more justice than the later ones). Voyager was always fine. It's TNG season 9 basically. It's really only bad in the way it squandered its premise and some of its actors
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If you want some serious whiplash, watch DS9 and Voyager back to back. Voyager's characters are paper thin. Tom and Harry are a chemistry black hole compared to Miles and Julian. And for all the hate he gets, Neelix is probably the most complex and tragic character on the show. Voyager has some decent stories in a loose anthology sense, but there's absolutely no comparison to DS9 when it comes to the characters.
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Volte posted:If you want some serious whiplash, watch DS9 and Voyager back to back. Voyager's characters are paper thin. Tom and Harry are a chemistry black hole compared to Miles and Julian. And for all the hate he gets, Neelix is probably the most complex and tragic character on the show. Voyager has some decent stories in a loose anthology sense, but there's absolutely no comparison to DS9 when it comes to the characters. You'll get no argument from me on any part of that. Except maybe Neelix. Not that I disagree that he gets too much hate, but I think the other Non-Standard characters are also pretty deep. The doctor, Seven, even Kess and Icheb have more going on than Harry ever does. Tuvok is great but I think that is 100% Tim Russ
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Yeah, Tim Russ just kind of instinctively understands the whole "I am a creature of pure logic but the people around me are not, sometimes this requires me to act in an illogical way and that's fine." thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhC87eRKW5E
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I was really hoping when Tom Paris was on Lower Decks there would be a joke about Harry still being an ensign.
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Kurieg posted:Yeah, Tim Russ just kind of instinctively understands the whole "I am a creature of pure logic but the people around me are not, sometimes this requires me to act in an illogical way and that's fine." thing. "And sometimes you need to comb a desert"
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how long do vulcans usually live? is being <100 considered super young or do people pretty much become functiona ladults at normal human type ages and they just stay that way longer before turning into senile raisins?
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Khanstant posted:how long do vulcans usually live? is being <100 considered super young or do people pretty much become functiona ladults at normal human type ages and they just stay that way longer before turning into senile raisins? There average lifespan is just north of 200, so 100 would be middle aged, but I don't know how long it takes to reach maturity, like would a 20 year old Vulcan have the same development as a 14 year old human or be just like a 20 year old human.
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The best episodes of DS9 are Quark and Odo episodes.
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pixaal posted:The best episodes of DS9 are Quark and Odo episodes. A respectable opinion. Though they were never "main cast", Garak and anyone played by Jeffrey Combs sure made any episode better
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pixaal posted:The best episodes of DS9 are Quark and Odo episodes. Garak 
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Daztek posted:Garak That's cheating. Besides, I always thought there was a lot of overlap in the Quark and Odo episodes with Garak.
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I haven't seen DS9 in ages but it's crazy looking up Garak and finding out he was in only in 33 episodes out of 176. He left such a huge mark on the show.
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Azhais posted:"And sometimes you need to comb a desert" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ7TnQBSV00
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I loving hated the grand nagus episodes of ds9. So much annoying screeching from that dude
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Hakkesshu posted:I haven't seen DS9 in ages but it's crazy looking up Garak and finding out he was in only in 33 episodes out of 176. He left such a huge mark on the show. He was only supposed to be in ONE. Then Andrew Robinson knocked it out of the park. Then he was in some of the very best episodes (and was no small part of why they were)
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swickles posted:There average lifespan is just north of 200, so 100 would be middle aged, but I don't know how long it takes to reach maturity, like would a 20 year old Vulcan have the same development as a 14 year old human or be just like a 20 year old human. They are elves, so whatever elves do is fine. Generally mature at about the same rate as human children, I think? But then adults don't take you seriously for decades because you have no life experience. And good luck getting promoted, your great grandparents haven't retired yet, so you'll be stuck in an entry level job for the next 50 years.
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