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Ricardo will finally meet his Achilles heel: Dodging punches by moving through the 4th dimension, and blatant rule violations by jumping around on the ropes.
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I believe this has been planned all along. Morikawa is a genius.
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Oct 19, 2021 20:32
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Wally's the key to all of this, if we get Wally working. Cuz he's a funnier character than we've ever had in the series
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Oct 19, 2021 21:08
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I saw that there were 16 replies in the thread and so I went and read the chapter and as I was turning to that page I said "who could it be that would make the thread this mad" and yeah I'm laughing
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Oct 19, 2021 21:24
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Whoa lol I thought this wasnt supposed to be out for another week? Not complaining though, glad it arrived before my move across the country Hoping they bring over New Challenger and Rising
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Oct 20, 2021 00:08
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If you think about said character in certain terms, it makes perfect sense. If you know your Ashita no Joe lore, Carlos Riviera gets the brains beaten out of him by Jose Mendoza, which helps spur Joe into challenging the world stage. (leaving aside the whole issue of who got blamed for carlos' situation) So what Hajime no Ippo needs is a similarly foreign-but-known sacrifice to the endboss. What's gonna happen is Wally's gonna get concussed stupid and that's how Ippo uhh I guess if I also wanted to speculate on Hoshi dying that would really lessen my great stolen idea so I'm gonna say that's not gonna happen, because I like feeling right
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Oct 20, 2021 01:13
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Also I think the opponent choice makes a lot of sense in-universe, beyond "how the gently caress does Martinez know who this is" - Wally[is a young, talented up and comer that, IIRC, his coach literally said would come back stronger after his fight with Ippo, and is weird and unconventional enough for Martinez to maybe be interested since he's the least textbook boxer possible, but he's also fresh enough his manager, promoter etc. might make the fight figuring there's no way this weird kid is ACTUALLY a threat to that ever-desired 0. Edit: I wrote that before reading the actual chapter, where it says he's #3 in the world now lol Flesnolk fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 01:25
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Good soup! posted:Whoa lol I thought this wasnt supposed to be out for another week? Not complaining though, glad it arrived before my move across the country Kinda weird that with how popular Ippo is, including IIRC actual professional boxers who entered the sport because of it, its anime isn't continuing and it has no licenced Western release
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Oct 20, 2021 01:29
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I want Ricardo to beat this character so badly that he yeets him out of the series for good.
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Oct 20, 2021 01:31
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it really seems bizarre, given his characterization so far, that ricardo would break his promise
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Oct 20, 2021 02:37
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I hope Wally performs literal special moves now
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Oct 20, 2021 02:43
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I hope Wally has a projectile and a halfscreen command grab
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Oct 20, 2021 02:44
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Flesnolk posted:Kinda weird that with how popular Ippo is, including IIRC actual professional boxers who entered the sport because of it, its anime isn't continuing and it has no licenced Western release But......it does now? lol I'm holding the Discotek release in my hand rn and I've got the first two collections in a pod 300 miles away, they're solid releases and I'm glad the the final set has Champion Road and the OVA on it The company says it has sold very well and the sets have sold out on a few sites here and there, so who knows, maybe the extra $$$ might get Madhouse or some other group to keep it going and we get to finally see the Wally fight animated Edit: I still can't believe this entire thing was fully dubbed too, the sales from the original Geneon release were comically abysmal but they went ahead and not only did all 70+ episodes but even Champion Road Too bad the script and direction are both bad Good soup! fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 02:49
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*shakes violently at the kitchen table eyes locked on a flaring lightbulb* Wally wins. A major banana company sponsors him. He becomes the final boss. Ippo returns to the ring for the worst fight in the entire manga
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Oct 20, 2021 02:51
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Wally beating Ricardo and suddenly we've got a final boss who only Ippo has beaten feels like just the kind of terrible route this manga could take. But like, if it doesn't take this kind of route it will literally never end, and that's much worse.
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Oct 20, 2021 03:50
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tbp posted:it really seems bizarre, given his characterization so far, that ricardo would break his promise He has not actually broken his promise. It's possible he just already had another fight set up, and wants to get it out of the way before fighting Sendo. Cause Richardo kind of seems to take it as a given that he will win a fight.
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I for one think Wally x Ricardo is amazing, great poo poo, George, you did it again. To be fair it's a pretty intriguing matchup, maybe seeing them fight will give Ippo some sort of insight into a possible Ricardo weakness that Sendo can exploit or whatever. Maybe this time around Wally fights like an actual boxer, or gets completely smashed for doing stupid poo poo, who knows, one can hope.
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Oct 20, 2021 04:15
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Good soup! posted:But......it does now? lol I meant the manga doesn't have an actual release, we've been relying on scans for thirty years now. Speaking of thirty years, is it mildly weird to anyone else that actual irl boxers like Mike Tyson and Thomas Hearns exist in this universe alongside all the wacky cartoon fightmen? Not like, bad weird, just amusing.
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Oct 20, 2021 04:29
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Also when in this thread does Wali discourse start, I kinda want to see the original thread reactions since we're getting That Fucker again
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Oct 20, 2021 04:36
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poo poo, like 12 years ago or so?
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Rubellavator posted:Chapter 1358 OH MY loving GOD e: DamnGlitch posted:poo poo, like 12 years ago or so? Yeah, and it wasn't like a sudden thing since we didn't know who the character was then. But that was the 3rd fight in a series of Indian/Pacific fighters that everyone thought were all the low points of the entire series. By that time Ippo had been defending his Japanese title for like 20 loving fights and we were all sick of it. So it wasn't a big thread reaction to a specific chapter, just a continual downward slide into complaining and wondering why we were all still even reading it at that point for a few years 
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Oct 20, 2021 04:42
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Flesnolk posted:I meant the manga doesn't have an actual release, we've been relying on scans for thirty years now. Ippo's comeback fight is gonna be against Jake Paul
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Dias posted:Ippo's comeback fight is gonna be against 
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Oct 20, 2021 04:56
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I don't think he was born yet at the point the manga is set
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Oct 20, 2021 04:57
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Flesnolk posted:Also when in this thread does Wali discourse start, I kinda want to see the original thread reactions since we're getting That Fucker again Looks like around page FOUR of this thread, tho probably more from page 5+ Edit: Here's a funny quote from page 5: DamnGlitch posted:When the gently caress is this comic gonna do something right again :| Page 5 is a real treat, btw. ccubed fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 06:47
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Geop posted:My worst fear is that this happens to Ippo and Berserk!
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Oct 20, 2021 12:02
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Rubellavator posted:They're bringing back the opponent from maybe the worst fight in the manga, and lmao if Hoshi just loving died I spoiled myself on this sentence before I read the chapter and was like "Are they bringing back Gedo???"
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ccubed posted:Looks like around page FOUR of this thread, tho probably more from page 5+ Seeing all the hope that the fight will be good wither and die over the course of 20+ pages was very satisfying, thank you for this.
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tbp posted:it really seems bizarre, given his characterization so far, that ricardo would break his promise He said he would fight Sendo, but he never promised to fight him next.
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Flesnolk posted:I meant the manga doesn't have an actual release, we've been relying on scans for thirty years now. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh gotcha, my bad  But yeah, agreed, it's super weird that the manga hasn't seen the light of day over here. The ups and downs of the later arcs be damned, it would be cool to have copies sitting on the shelf in my office
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Oct 20, 2021 14:48
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Eight-Six posted:If you think about said character in certain terms, it makes perfect sense. I baselessly speculate that Wally will lose but Ricardo will take a beating and have to retire. This can't just be another "Ricardo strong" match. But Wally as end boss is too terrible for me to imagine, I reruse.
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No Wave posted:I baselessly speculate that Wally will lose but Ricardo will take a beating and have to retire. This can't just be another "Ricardo strong" match. But Wally as end boss is too terrible for me to imagine, I reruse. Following the old thread around the Wally fight is fascinating as it goes from hope, to despair, through the five stages of grief, to pure apathy.
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Reading it in one go, the Wally fight works a little better but jesus what a terrible idea for a fight. Ippo gets absolutely slaughtered but thanks to some tiny body blows he pulls victory out of his rear end. The biggest mistake the fight made was lessening the impact of those body blows. It was done so to keep you focused on Wally schooling Ippo, but the big turning point feels so unearned since the body shots are drawn like love taps. Wally still sucks a lot.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:02
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Has there been even one fight where Ippo looked like a competent boxer
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Oct 20, 2021 19:11
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Flesnolk posted:Has there been even one fight where Ippo looked like a competent boxer Poor Karasawa, probably.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:37
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Karasawa, but that was also the opponent who decided he'd train his abs to endure Ippo's body blows.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:38
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Shinjobi posted:Reading it in one go, the Wally fight works a little better but jesus what a terrible idea for a fight. Kamogawa also said he would never have Ippo fight Wally again. Cause he knows Ippo will never be able to beat him again once Wally improves a bit.
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ricardo gets pissed if u dont box for real vs him right i wanna see him fly off the handle and beat the poo poo out of wally without being touched
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Oct 20, 2021 21:17
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Flesnolk posted:Has there been even one fight where Ippo looked like a competent boxer IIRC there's usually a phase at the very beginning of most fights were Ippo's opponent or some audience person will be like "drat, Ippo is formidable" before Ippo starts getting a one-sided beat-down.
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Fereydun posted:ricardo gets pissed if u dont box for real vs him right No, he gets pissed if the opponent is deemed a worthy foe (see his match against Date). He just gets depressed if you go in already terrified of fighting him.
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