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mahershalalhashbaz
Jul 22, 2021

Cartoon posted:

More like "no vax"

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mahershalalhashbaz
Jul 22, 2021

bell jar posted:

you've just brought up a deep seated memory that i thought i'd forgotten. so many beer slabs curbstomped like i'd want to do to fuckwit customers

i'm so glad that i don't work in hospo anymore
i somehow lasted two years in hospitality and i don't know how. the chefs figured out on my first shift that the slightest provocation would make me erupt in shrieks like a wounded rabbit and basically used me as a human stress ball, but somehow i kept going back. i couldn't do it now

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/quirky-koala-nft-art-raising-money-after-devastating-bushfires/100547012

too bad that minting the nfts is contributing heavily to climate change causing these sorts of problem in the first place you loving tech bro sociopaths

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009





quote:

“If there is hope, it lies in the proles.” So said one of the 20th century’s greatest philosophers thinly disguised as a novelist, George Orwell, in his spookily prescient work, 1984. I believe my lifelong fascination with the underclass began when I pondered that declaration of independence against a futuristic form of government oppression, which has turned out not to be so futuristic.

As a shopkeeper’s daughter, I understood poor people; they obeyed the law, worked hard, sent their kids to the same primary schools I attended and were equally ambitious for their children. But the underclass, small as it then was, behaved differently.

Like the stoats and weasels of the Wild Wood in The Wind in the Willows, yet another English children’s book on the topic of class, they rejected the rules and lived by their own. They were to be feared and were, to use my mother’s words, not very nice. It took Orwell to turn the noble Marxist proletariat into the proles.

Since the 1950s there has been a remarkable growth in the number of proles. The welfare state is not entirely to blame, as the world of Dickens attests. Government agencies view them with alarm as huge cost centres; they are over-represented in their use of government crisis services and are always the last to give up smoking, get their shots and eat two servings of vegetables a day.

Of course, they are always seen as a deficit. Social workers, traditionally good young men and women who thought it would be nice to be kind for a living, despair of their appalling housework, neglect of their children and, notably, their sharp and unrepentant manner when told to lift their game by the patronising do-gooder.

Oh yes, and they don’t vote often, although, as I found door-knocking, it will be issues such as refugees and threats to the national flag which will get them out the door rather than the budget deficit or how much we spend on public education.

Orwell was right. The underclass can smell a fake at 50 paces, distrusts conceptual rhetoric and cannot speak a word of Newspeak.

Despite the billions of dollars governments invest in changing the lives of proles, their number increases. Their birth rates far outstrip those of professional couples and they are now a significant potential contributor to our workforce.

Except their children languish in the growing number of behavioural support classes in general high schools where they learn little and teachers itch to send them to the local TAFE to do some form of home-schooling and get them off their books.

Essential honesty
Once graduated with a basic studies completion certificate and little else, their prospects are not great. The discipline of work and often its thanklessness, especially at the unskilled end, also have little appeal.

But Orwell was right. The underclass can smell a fake at 50 paces, distrusts conceptual rhetoric and cannot speak a word of Newspeak, the language of lies made famous in Orwell’s 1984. They know what they want and see no reason why they should take notice of some man or woman in a suit when they get in their way.

They were a significant part of the anti-vax protests because they don’t like being told what to do and even though many drew their inspiration from spurious websites, they had correctly identified the freedoms the rest of us had been only too happy to give up. State leaders might have deplored the demonstrations, but they also knew they represented the tip of a sentiment the rest of society keeps hidden from view and only reveals in the privacy of the ballot box. Freedom has gathered pace.

The underclass is not always a happy place to be and bumping into the rest of the world mostly does not go well. People with chronic mental illness, cognitive disabilities and childhoods of trauma are mixed together in a sometimes brutal way, chaos and crisis never far from their door, living in a Wild Wood in their streets and public housing blocks or caravan parks.

And yet, I like them. I like them because they call us out. They are honestly self-interested, and you always know what they think. I know many of them. So many clever, actually very clever, kids and adults, although often damaged and almost entirely lacking discipline, trust in the system, trust in anyone who represents the system.

I am convinced we can do better to harness the force that the people of the underclass represent. We need to make it a focus of social policy, not a by-product of it. We have little choice, or we will continue to import our workforce and in growing numbers, as risk management parenting forces the birth-rate lower.

So long as we keep looking at the billions of dollars they cost us, we will continue to dislike them, reject them and write them off. Yet, in an age when cultural hegemony is now as strong as it was 70 years ago, only different, never have we needed them more to challenge modern meekism. The child who cried “look at the King” in The Emperor’s New Clothes was surely a member of the underclass.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


christ just put a few of them in a petri dish and get em under a microscope Pru

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
IT. WAS. POO Goward.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
The line "the poor must be harnessed" is pretty amazing. Squid Game villain made a similar poor = horses analogy.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
Calling the poor 'self interested' is loving wild

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
...are they really trying to "noble savages" the "underclass"?


Jesus.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011



https://www.theguardian.com/austral...dys-berejiklian

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
The underclass had their chance imo

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005


loving hell, can't wait to see her follow up article..

"Forced sterilisation and coerced labour got a bad rap in the last 20 years but I firmly believe..."

Vooze
Oct 29, 2011

NTRabbit posted:

Centrelink call centres have been entirely outsourced to them plus Serco and Datacom for a few years now

This is incorrect. They haven't been outsourced entirely, but they have got more sub-contracted staff from Serco et al. than not afaik.

Doc Holliday
Dec 24, 2002
I think that gang shootings returning to the Cumberland area is the NSW way of saying that nature is returning after lockdown. It was nice of them to hold off from killing each other during that time.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011


tell me you haven't read 1984 without saying you haven't read 1984.

also pretend that 1984 was the philosophical underpinning of class definitions and where "proletariat" was defined.

Welcome to Tiny Train World!

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Capt.Whorebags posted:

loving hell, can't wait to see her follow up article..

"Forced sterilisation and coerced labour got a bad rap in the last 20 years but I firmly believe..."

It's going to be about how rude twitter has been and there is no longer any Civil Discourse

yoloer420
May 19, 2006
https://twitter.com/MarkMcGowanMP/status/1450671764896317441

Sweet.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
Wasn't Pru the one that got in trouble last time for advocating a new stolen generation on channel 7?



Why is icac saying these hurtful things about glady

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Capt.Whorebags posted:

loving hell, can't wait to see her follow up article..

"Forced sterilisation and coerced labour got a bad rap in the last 20 years but I firmly believe..."

Nah that's for next month, the immediate follow-up is "I am anne frank and the twitterati are the SS"

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

SuddenCactus posted:

Wasn't Pru the one that got in trouble last time for advocating a new stolen generation on channel 7?

Why is icac saying these hurtful things about glady

I think that was a different Prue - Prue MacSween

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

It's impressive that someone could write a post that would get you probed in cspam on a national news site.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

That has to be the biggest pile of complete poo poo I've read this month. And yes I read my own posts

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

hooman posted:

It's impressive that someone could write a post that would get you probed in cspam on a national news site.

I'm not sure if it's less or more impressive that they managed to do it without going the more typical cspam route of threatening to violently overthrow a government or assassinate a politician of member of the press.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

That has to be the biggest pile of complete poo poo I've read this month. And yes I read my own posts

Turn on you're monitor

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006



When you're meant to be doing research for your column but just watch Idiocracy instead.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

Solemn Sloth posted:

I think that was a different Prue - Prue MacSween

What is it with Prue's

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Senor Tron posted:

When you're meant to be doing research for your column but just watch Idiocracy instead.

I saw Idiocracy for the first time last week and oh man. I thought when people said it was a pro-eugenics movie they meant if you dug deep into the subtext it was a bit problematic. But nope, movie might as well have had the narrator turn to the camera and implore us to murder the poor before their inferior genes overwhelm and infect the gene pool.

yoloer420
May 19, 2006
I don't think Idiocracy was an endorsement of eugenics. To me it seemed it was suggesting an inevitably, rather than a warning.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Idiocracy is funny.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

Phigs posted:

I saw Idiocracy for the first time last week and oh man. I thought when people said it was a pro-eugenics movie they meant if you dug deep into the subtext it was a bit problematic. But nope, movie might as well have had the narrator turn to the camera and implore us to murder the poor before their inferior genes overwhelm and infect the gene pool.

I love this post

Yolo Swaggins Esq
Jan 29, 2015

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My main takeaway from Idiocracy all these years later is that I am exactly the kind of idiot it warned about, because me and my idiot friends bought a case of Brawndo branded energy drinks after it came out BC the brawndo ads were funny.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Animal Friend posted:

tell me you haven't read 1984 without saying you haven't read 1984.

also pretend that 1984 was the philosophical underpinning of class definitions and where "proletariat" was defined.

Welcome to Tiny Train World!

It's also especially funny since even if you have read it some major criticisms from the left on 1984 come down to that it's basically a story about how much its dictatorship makes it suck to be middle class (Isaac Asimov of all people has a good takedown iirc)


dr_rat posted:

...are they really trying to "noble savages" the "underclass"?


Jesus.

They don't have any colonial subjects left so Foucault's Boomerang comes into play

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Yolo Swaggins Esq posted:

My main takeaway from Idiocracy all these years later is that I am exactly the kind of idiot it warned about, because me and my idiot friends bought a case of Brawndo branded energy drinks after it came out BC the brawndo ads were funny.

Are you using it to irrigate your crops?

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
You all misunderstand Pru's article. It's not about how she just read 1984, she read it ages back. She had to take a bus the other week. That's it. That is how the upper class reacts to taking public transport.



Edit to add:

I just threw up in my mouth, UAP is playing what seems like a Qantas ad, which turns into a bunch of airline workers holding up signs obscuring their faces complaining about requiring a vaccine to work. Medical Apartheid?
They are bloody well free not to get the jab, but they are not free to force someone to employ them. What a world that would be. Disgusting.

Konomex fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Oct 20, 2021

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Guaranteed employment? Sounds like socialism.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Christian Porter, (the definite rapist) is a oval office.

He has weaseled his way out of consequences yet again. With the government ignoring the advice of the Speaker, and blocking an inquiry into the blind trust that paid his legal fees.

I hate them all so much.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

I imagine he didn't have to repay the trust either?

E: lol it's ok, the guy who benefited from the trust says the managers of the trust say it's all above board, case closed.

Eediot Jedi fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Oct 20, 2021

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Eediot Jedi posted:

I imagine he didn't have to repay the trust either?

E: lol it's ok, the guy who benefited from the trust says the managers of the trust say it's all above board, case closed.

My "No crimes here" tshirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by my tshirt.

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug

SuddenCactus posted:

Why is icac saying these hurtful things about glady

g'lady *tips fedora*

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Capt.Whorebags posted:

loving hell, can't wait to see her follow up article..


quote:

Goward told Guardian Australia she was “deeply disappointed” that her column had been “so badly misunderstood”. But, she said, opinion pieces are “meant to provoke and I hope it’s helped the readers of the AFR think differently about those at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder”.

“I have applied a Marxist analysis which some might say is old fashioned but which explains to me why people judge others as unworthy,” she said.

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