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Just give me Single Transferable Vote and a 900 member parliament. 
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Oct 20, 2021 14:44
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https://twitter.com/CTVToronto/status/1450810134880526339
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Oct 20, 2021 14:50
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What's going on with this general strike in the US? Why aren't any Canadian unions taking part?
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Oct 20, 2021 15:05
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Uh, source?
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Oct 20, 2021 15:13
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Femtosecond posted:The problem is that we just don't know. Our multiparty FPTP system already results in vote splits, counter intuitive results and distorted outcomes and the nature of ranked ballots is that.... literally none of this will change and it will if anything become harder to guess at what will happen. According to MagicCube's chart, though, Liberals put NDP second overwhelmingly - 43%! - so the bolded part here seems unlikely. Maybe I'm naive, but I think the right question to ask about this is "Would it help government better reflect the will of the people?" as opposed to "Would this help my side specifically?" If the rules are designed to be stacked for a given side, and people realize that, then that reduces the legitimacy of the government itself and makes any wins from that system precarious. Things right now are certainly stacked to favor conservatives, which is why non-conservatives are talking about changing the way it works, and if we're just shifting sides then we aren't shifting that narrative and it will just snap back as more and more people see the system as unfairly stacked against them and strive to change it back. It's much harder to make that argument when the reason things are stacked against you is that the system is democratically fair and your opinions suck.
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Oct 20, 2021 15:15
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I don't deliver anymore but when I did long distance deliveries after COVID hit there was an absolute desert of usable restrooms, sometimes whole towns would be closed off to me. It was actually really horrible.
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Oct 20, 2021 16:30
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Typo posted:I actually do kinda wonder: would ranked choice or PR just split the current parties entirely PR at least would probably cause the conservatives to fracture in two along the existing fault line, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a more left wing party than the NDP appear. The Liberals don't really stand for anything as far as I can tell aside from the status quo, so I'd be surprised if they spilt at all (although their vote share would def go down) Muscle Tracer posted:According to MagicCube's chart, though, Liberals put NDP second overwhelmingly - 43%! - so the bolded part here seems unlikely. RB, although having problems still is at least way better than FPTP at representing the will of voters. You can at least vote for who you want to win at number 1 rather than holding your nose. The real dream is of course, MMPR Alctel fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 17:09
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Rockstar Massacre posted:I don't deliver anymore but when I did long distance deliveries after COVID hit there was an absolute desert of usable restrooms, sometimes whole towns would be closed off to me. It was actually really horrible. Yeah I was doing grocery deliveries to isolated seniors when covid started and there were some days where I was yelling “my kingdom! My kingdom for a place to piss!”
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Oct 20, 2021 17:21
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Capital Letdown posted:Yeah I was doing grocery deliveries to isolated seniors when covid started and there were some days where I was yelling “my kingdom! My kingdom for a place to piss!” It should also be noted that this is a gender equality issue, as people with dicks have a much easier go of pissing without a washroom (which, again, they shouldn't have to do, but we all know it happens).
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Oct 20, 2021 18:42
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The Legault government is rebuking the Canadiens for claiming Montreal is unceded Indigenous territory. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/unceded-territory-the-montreal-canadiens-are-wrong-says-quebec-indigenous-affairs-minister-1.5630991 Habs do something good, so Quebec politicians butt in to remind everyone that the political class is the absolute worst. And naturally they're rules lawyering on the topic of who was there first as a cover for their real complaint which is "politics should stay out of sports and stop recognizing indians in our province" Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 18:48
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hillaryous clinton posted:Quebecois and the French approach language differently imo. The French are language snobs yet happily use loanwords that aren't French ("mail" to denote email, for example). Accents are ok, English words are actually cool, but don't you dare use improper grammar! In proper Quebec french this is a no-no (use "courriel"). This is because Quebec is keeping the French torch lit in a sea of colonialist anglos intent on snuffing it out, or something like that. Doesn't France still do the thing where they completely suppress regional dialects and languages like refusing to recognize that Breton or Occitan are real things people use
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Oct 20, 2021 19:08
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Post-Franco, Spain got a lot more chill about its regional languages (including Basque where, ordering a coffee or beer actually was beyond my ability because the grammar is very, very odd for speakers of European languages). Hopefully France is doing the same but I doubt it.
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Oct 20, 2021 21:18
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https://twitter.com/antihateca/status/1450931731113156609 How many PPC chuds are gonna die cause of the election?
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Oct 20, 2021 22:13
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The Tories are going to drag out this complaint about mandatory vaccines for federal MPs to enter the House of Commons forever. We've still got another month until the nobs are back in session. It's really easy for the conservatives to claim a media bias against them when they go on TV and make fools of themselves like Blake Richards is currently doing. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 22:14
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/antihateca/status/1450931731113156609 All of them, inshallah.
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Oct 20, 2021 22:23
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half cocaine posted:That's cool. Just wanted to make it clear that anyone who advocates against alternative voting is just trying to stack the cards for their team. Can you please actually provide evidence of this? I advocate for single transferrable vote. Can you please explain how this means I'm trying to stack the cards for my team?
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Oct 20, 2021 23:02
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I also support STV and don't in particular care who wins; as long as it represents the actual preferences of voters.
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Oct 20, 2021 23:57
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Fart Amplifier posted:Can you please actually provide evidence of this? I advocate for single transferrable vote. Can you please explain how this means I'm trying to stack the cards for my team?
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Oct 21, 2021 00:22
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/antihateca/status/1450931731113156609 lol
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Oct 21, 2021 00:40
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"15 Aug 21 posted:In a statement released late Sunday night, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said that Canadians "do not want" to see "the politicization of the pandemic." "20 Oct 21 posted:Conservatives say they oppose 'secret' move to introduce mandatory vaccine rule for MPs
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Oct 21, 2021 01:09
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tbh I would not be that surprised if an outcome of PR in Canada would end up being a dominant centre right coalition. Despite how much people think that RB or PR will doom the Conservatives and benefit the left I don't think it's at all a given. The reason I think PR is good regardless of how various parties do as a result is because: 1) strategic voting is horrible and should to go away. 2) IMO it's preferable to have minority governments where people have to work together rather than some outsize false majority victory (ie. only 39% of the vote) that results in 4 years of the government ignoring everyone and ramming through whatever their agenda is. PR makes the former more likely.
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Oct 21, 2021 01:45
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You gotta think PR would lead to a big rearrangement because like, no way Conservatives agree to coalition with the Bloc or the NDP giving in to some demands at the table without a big chunk splitting off or something like that.
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Oct 21, 2021 01:59
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There’s some Twitter and Reddit chatter alleging that that PPC candidate is already dead. Apparently his family is claiming he had pneumonia but not covid so his illness/death isn’t going to convince anyone in redneck Saskatchewan to get the shot.
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Oct 21, 2021 02:11
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I'll just wait until it goes up on Hermancaineawards.
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Oct 21, 2021 02:37
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It's appropriate that the double down is back at KFC because Doug Ford is certainly doubling down on his comments about immigrants. Gurratan Singh called him out at the legislature yesterday and Ford responded by saying he has lots of Sikh friends and he was "bang on" with his immigration comments. And tomorrow morning Monte McNaughton is making a super early announcement about migrant workers as damage control for the fat gently caress.
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Oct 21, 2021 02:41
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my MPP is old and very dumb. https://www.tbnewswatch.com/coronav...ted-psw-4534935
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Oct 21, 2021 04:17
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ICYMI, BC is going to disenfranchise rurals through redistricting. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-redistricting-electoral-commission-2021-1.6021555 I don't think it's that hard to conceive that the combined effect of federal redistricting and alternative voting could gently caress conservatives for decades to come. 
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Oct 21, 2021 04:43
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Oh no rurals might lose some of the undue power they have in our current broken system, noooooooooooo
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Oct 21, 2021 05:17
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Sep 10, 2022 |
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Oct 21, 2021 07:03
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Reading the Happy Birthday to You article in Wikipedia, andquote:In Canada, especially at young children's birthdays, immediately after "Happy Birthday" has been sung, the singers segue into "How old are you now? How old are you now? How old are you now-ow, how old are you now?" and then count up: "Are you one? Are you two? Are you ..." until they reach the right age. I have never heard of this in my life, do any of you have any experience with this dumb, apparently-Canadian tradition?
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Oct 21, 2021 07:54
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Sep 10, 2022 |
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Oct 21, 2021 07:59
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Jay Rust posted:Reading the Happy Birthday to You article in Wikipedia, and What the gently caress
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Oct 21, 2021 08:10
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Jay Rust posted:Reading the Happy Birthday to You article in Wikipedia, and This sounds like a Wikipedia editor’s family has been doing this weird thing throughout his life and then when it came time to write an article about it they assumed it was something everyone did.
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Oct 21, 2021 08:49
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Yah, I've heard "how old are you now" repeated a few times (even semi-recently in real life, though I can't remember when), but never counting. Western Canada.
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Oct 21, 2021 09:00
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Never heard it. Trawna
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Oct 21, 2021 10:27
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It isn't a BC thing.
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Oct 21, 2021 12:26
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We used to do "How old are you" when I was little, late eighties or early nineties, but I haven't heard that in years and we never did the counting thing. Ottawa valley.
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Oct 21, 2021 12:33
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I've seen like 2 weeks worth of headlines about the Rogers family and their dumb company on the Canadian Newspaper of Record and I'm like, who exactly gives a gently caress? Is this some kind of internecine laurentian elite rite of passage?
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Oct 21, 2021 12:36
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I maybe heard the "how old are you now" a few times, never the counting. Southern Ontario.
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Oct 21, 2021 12:36
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I heard the "How old are you now?" bit when I was a kid. Occasionally with the counting but more often not. Southern Ontario.
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Oct 21, 2021 12:46
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