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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJL-gEpAuTc
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Oct 20, 2021 17:58
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1450870151495176195?s=20
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Oct 20, 2021 18:11
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we should expropriate harvard's endowment as punishment for this grievous act
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Oct 20, 2021 18:24
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thats cultural appropriation, only american war criminals are allowed to go to harvard
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Oct 20, 2021 18:59
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Well yeah. A nuclear exchange with the USSR would been across the Artic since that was the shortest distance between the two. How much it would cost to expand it's system to cover every attack vector? Obviously a lot more than for China to build a few missiles.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:30
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Some Guy TT posted:yeah when im talking about the morale of the voting left being poo poo in south korea stuff like labor leaders still being locked up while the liberal president and his supermajority legislature brag about what a good job theyre doing working with giant corporations is a pretty big reason for that don’t even socdem parties regularly get banned? I remember checking out the parasite guy’s politics and he was a member of a banned party for a bit and looking at said party’s activities before being banned it was just normal socdems. not even nominally socialist
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Oct 20, 2021 19:38
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OhFunny posted:Well yeah. A nuclear exchange with the USSR would been across the Artic since that was the shortest distance between the two. china will just make a tunnel through the core of the earth
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Oct 20, 2021 19:39
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How cheap and easy are icbm anyways? Like why make anything else other than logistics?
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Oct 20, 2021 20:31
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Seems like poor decision on the part of US defense planners. Western USA is going to be uninhabitable even if nobody nukes it.
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Oct 20, 2021 20:42
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Femur posted:How cheap and easy are icbm anyways? Like why make anything else other than logistics? I believe the big deal is that things things spend a lot less time in the part of the atmosphere where anti-missile systems can try to hit them. If you accept as true that US missile systems can stop an ICBM with any kind of consistency, then this is the thing you want to build. I don't know that anybody believes that's true, but a lot of nuclear stuff comes down to posturing, so having a missile that obviously cannot be stopped may be valuable.
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Oct 20, 2021 21:10
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missile defense is entirely a numbers game. which makes concentrating them in an dense area make sense because it makes it harder to counter your N+1 strat unless the enemy does the same. this gets around that by approaching from an entirely different direction, though as pointed out by others this means all we'd need to do to defend against it would be put missile batteries on all borders.
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Oct 20, 2021 21:33
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Lostconfused posted:Seems like poor decision on the part of US defense planners. Western USA is going to be uninhabitable even if nobody nukes it. the shield is for the entire country. it's just that alaska and montana or w/e would be the closest places to intercept even missiles on their way to DC. not anymore! lol Lady Militant posted:missile defense is entirely a numbers game. which makes concentrating them in an dense area make sense because it makes it harder to counter your N+1 strat unless the enemy does the same. this gets around that by approaching from an entirely different direction, though as pointed out by others this means all we'd need to do to defend against it would be put missile batteries on all borders. if only there were some sort of analogue we could make about forcing a country to up its military spending to unsustainable levels. hilarious that lockheed is probably champing at the bit for a tripling of funding over this. perverse incentives abound i say swears online has issued a correction as of 22:04 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 21:56
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i say swears online posted:the shield is for the entire country. it's just that alaska and montana or w/e would be the closest places to intercept even missiles on their way to DC. not anymore! lol So not much of a difference then?
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Oct 20, 2021 22:03
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Lostconfused posted:So not much of a difference then? lockheed will be hiring
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Oct 20, 2021 22:04
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i say swears online posted:lockheed will be hiring Last I checked they'll still give you a full ride through college if you're the right kind of engineer and you agree to go work for them.
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Oct 20, 2021 22:18
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lol who's this https://mobile.twitter.com/wheazypeezy/status/1450601812877266950
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Oct 20, 2021 23:51
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https://mobile.twitter.com/johncarlbaker/status/1450866181129318406
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Oct 20, 2021 23:52
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the Soviet’s fielded a system like that for like 15 years and abandoned it because it isn’t really a practical system. I think it was the r-36(O). It is also a sign that the Chinese deem a nuclear first strike a viable strategy.
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Oct 20, 2021 23:55
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Torpor posted:It is also a sign that the Chinese deem a nuclear first strike a viable strategy. its just a mind game. its the ronald regan "star wars" strategy but turned against the US. now this bloated collapsing empire is going to have to build lots of fancy defense systems and waste even more money
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Oct 21, 2021 00:00
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Rutibex posted:its just a mind game. its the ronald regan "star wars" strategy but turned against the US. now this bloated collapsing empire is going to have to build lots of fancy defense systems and waste even more money
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Oct 21, 2021 00:07
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Torpor posted:the Soviet’s fielded a system like that for like 15 years and abandoned it because it isn’t really a practical system. I would say that evading missile defense would be key to deterring a first strike. Maybe they do deem it viable or maybe they don't, but this weapons program doesn't really indicate either way.
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Oct 21, 2021 00:15
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Rutibex posted:its just a mind game. its the ronald regan "star wars" strategy but turned against the US. now this bloated collapsing empire is going to have to build lots of fancy defense systems and waste even more money On the other hand I have an article here that says the Chinese minds never conceived of Chinese chess so this strategy is beyond them. I'm a very serious person who is smart.
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Oct 21, 2021 00:16
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FrancisFukyomama posted:don’t even socdem parties regularly get banned? I remember checking out the parasite guy’s politics and he was a member of a banned party for a bit and looking at said party’s activities before being banned it was just normal socdems. not even nominally socialist that was the last president during the dark era now in the era of light leaders just do electoral reform to intensify the first past the post system making it impossible for soc dem parties to compete its good because they are cringe and dont deserve to have representation anyway
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Oct 21, 2021 00:19
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That's the problem with going up against the chinese. While we're playing checkers, they're playing chinese checkers.
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Oct 21, 2021 00:20
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Mr Hootington posted:On the other hand I have an article here that says the Chinese minds never conceived of Chinese chess so this strategy is beyond them. I'm a very serious person who is smart. next on the atlantic, chinese skulls indicate a genetic inability to create mk 2 hypersonic missiles,
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Oct 21, 2021 00:20
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Rutibex posted:its just a mind game. its the ronald regan "star wars" strategy but turned against the US. now this bloated collapsing empire is going to have to build lots of fancy defense systems and waste even more money Its a greenlight for the US to deploy space based incerceptors that loiter over possible launch sites
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Oct 21, 2021 00:25
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gonna laugh when china tries to use one of those and accidentally slams into a starlink satellite on the way to its target
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Oct 21, 2021 00:27
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This would've been really goddamn useful in DEFCON
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Oct 21, 2021 00:35
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lmao lol rofl at the idea of the us being able to put anything into space anymore
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Oct 21, 2021 00:51
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HerraS posted:lmao lol rofl at the idea of the us being able to put anything into space anymore the Lucy mission just launched the other day so it can study some asteroids 12 years from now after a series of complicated slingshot maneuvers
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Oct 21, 2021 00:55
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wow Im sure orbital death lasers are the next step from taking a probe and chucking it in the right direction
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Oct 21, 2021 00:59
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SpaceX launches classified poo poo constantly
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Oct 21, 2021 01:09
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spacex is headed up by a meth addict
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Oct 21, 2021 01:12
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30.5 Days posted:I would say that evading missile defense would be key to deterring a first strike. Maybe they do deem it viable or maybe they don't, but this weapons program doesn't really indicate either way. Ignoring submarines for a moment, if they can evade missile defense / early warning systems, that doesn't really give us any reason not to conduct a first strike because the calculus on our side is the same. And of course, if you don't ignore submarines then this is kinda moot I think since MAD still applies to both sides that way - which indicates to me that this doesn't indicate like a sea change in Chinese posture or whatever.
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Oct 21, 2021 01:30
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58922011 why arent they making an article about us??
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Oct 21, 2021 01:30
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:I thought *missile defense* was key to deterring a first strike, not evading it. That, and a shitload of redundant missiles. At least from a MAD perspective the idea of a first strike is to knock out literally every single missile your enemy can launch at you, thereby eliminating their ability to strike back (or strike back enough to push your losses over whatever you consider acceptable), thereby mitigating MAD at all. That's why we have submarines that you can't target with missiles, and early warning systems so we can launch missiles after they've launched theirs but before theirs have landed, and generally just a shitload of missiles to raise the likelihood that we have something left over in the event we take a first strike. That's all to keep MAD in play. The idea of a first strike is shooting them with nukes and they can't hit you with nukes. That could come from just going hog wild with nukes on their nuke throwing stuff, or it could come from missile defense that can stop their nukes from hitting you. Making sure US missile defense doesn't work is part of deterring a US first strike.
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Oct 21, 2021 01:33
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Cao Ni Ma posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58922011 Weird that the rise of chinese nationalism coincides perfectly with the presence of chinese citizens on the internet. Back when our only source for chinese sentiment was the western media? no nationalism, unheard of. Now that you can just go online and see what chinese people have to say, bam! All this nationalism out of nowhere!
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Oct 21, 2021 01:36
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Some Guy TT posted:that was the last president during the dark era now in the era of light leaders just do electoral reform to intensify the first past the post system making it impossible for soc dem parties to compete its good because they are cringe and dont deserve to have representation anyway So the ROK's political system is what americans pretend they have? Somewhat more meaningful flavor differences between largely neoliberal parties?
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Oct 21, 2021 01:46
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Torpor posted:the Soviet’s fielded a system like that for like 15 years and abandoned it because it isn’t really a practical system. Missile defense systems are inherently aggressive in a MAD scenario, since missile defense cannot possibly stop a first strike, but they might be able to stop a weakened second strike. The Chinese building systems to defeat missile defense is a defensive move to maintain a nuclear deterrent. Crazy weapons delivery systems are meant to keep MAD functioning.
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Oct 21, 2021 01:49
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Cao Ni Ma posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58922011 suddenly, patriotism is bad
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Oct 21, 2021 02:02
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