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yeah i know rain causes erosion, im confused about losing all the most useful growing soil in the state how is that going to happen?
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Yes, it typically takes about three years for enough regrowth to stabilize the soil.
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Oct 21, 2021 15:19
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Also drought, fewer planted crops, and just things being way too dry help the soil get blown/washed away.
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SirPablo posted:Probably. Even in the NH some (~10%) spin anticyclonicly, so probably 10% in the SH spin the correct way. Eh it's a little more nuanced, anticyclonic tornados aren't made in the same spot in the mesocyclone of the supercell as the strong normal twisties, they are created by the opposite side of the rear flank downdraft surge. They're usually pretty weak and short lived because they don't have a front updraft to power them. Tornadoes are heckling cool rear end weather and scare the absolute poo poo out of me.
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Charles Mansion posted:yeah i know rain causes erosion, im confused about losing all the most useful growing soil in the state It’s not. The most useful growing soil in the state is not decomposed granite three thousand feet up the east slope of the Sierra Nevadas, formerly covered with pine forest. Besides, the Gold Rush did worse via hydraulic mining. 
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Charles Mansion posted:yeah i know rain causes erosion, im confused about losing all the most useful growing soil in the state all the nitrogen rich soil gets washed out or layered ontop of tons of deluge and crap while the soot from the wildfire gives richer nutrients for regrowth due to zinc, magnesium and iron, it wouldn't be evenly distributed into the soil since it's all tumbling around and can likely just end up deep at the bottom layer and takes a long time for it to settle via physics
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yeah where is all of the soil supposed to erode to exactly in the central valley the farm next door?
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oh no not the nitrogen. they will have to spray on a whole new layer of modified cow poo poo
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Asproigerosis posted:Tornadoes are heckling cool rear end weather and scare the absolute poo poo out of me. Remember they're more scared of you then you are of them. Just make yourself big, make a lot of noise and they should run away.
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goons serious posting in the weather thread that soil runoff will...just go to another farm....and we can just use...fertilizer to farm dead soil?
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dr_rat posted:Remember they're more scared of you then you are of them. Just make yourself big, make a lot of noise and they should run away. thank you. next time i am approached by an ef5 i will remember to stand up straight so as to appear greater than two miles across and stretching up into the tropopause.
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*laughs in cation exchange capacity*
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Suplex Liberace posted:goodbye all the most usefull growing soil in california lol  agricultural land doesn't burn very well, particularly vineyards. they just don't provide enough dense, dry fuel to really burn like a mountain covered in oaks, or a mcmansion surrounded by eucalyptus. the areas that have been getting hit hardest in california by fire are the forested areas with lots of oak, or areas with lots of wildland-urban interface. when the WIU starts burning, those connecting urban areas get skullfucked.so, in the very short-term, the areas with the best growing soil just aren't the same areas that are burning. hell, all of those dense trees burning down might even clear more area for ag purposes, making those same areas maybe slightly less fire-prone in the future (as all of the trees and natural biomes get murdered). looking a little further into the future? lmao, the ruling class will continue to drain the aquifers down to nothing to keep exporting alfalfa and almonds, and those vineyards will become more dry kindling for the firenados. the cops will keep getting more and more heavily armed to break up protests and arrest dissidents. just wait til the water riots start, then poo poo's gonna get real in a hurry.
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A Bakers Cousin posted:goons serious posting in the weather thread that soil runoff will...just go to another farm....and we can just use...fertilizer to farm dead soil? yeah it'll probably all just wash into one of the many large central valley rivers running through ag country
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Asproigerosis posted:Eh it's a little more nuanced, anticyclonic tornados aren't made in the same spot in the mesocyclone of the supercell as the strong normal twisties, they are created by the opposite side of the rear flank downdraft surge. They're usually pretty weak and short lived because they don't have a front updraft to power them. Tornadoes are heckling cool rear end weather and scare the absolute poo poo out of me. More so splitting supercells generally in a strong speed shear/low directional shear environment, not related to the RFD directly. Definitely usually weak as the left mover is weaker.
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Apparently there's an insane wind storm coming to Western Washington this weekend. Regular weather people are like probably nbd but Cliff Mass is all 'strongest cyclone on record!' https://twitter.com/ScottSeattleWx/status/1451553338714058759?s=20 https://twitter.com/WeatherJefe/status/1451605667844792322?s=20 I know Cliff Mass has been canceled but here's his write up for whoever wants to read it https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-strongest-storm-in-northwest.html
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so basically a midlevel tropical storm
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FlamingLiberal posted:so basically a midlevel tropical storm Yeah, but we usually don't get those around here. This just showed up in my inbox and popped up on Alexa at the same time: National Weather Service posted:* WHAT...Southeast wind of 40 mph with gusts to 60 mph are So basically, everything north of the Seattle metro area is about to have a really bad time.
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Bob Socko posted:Yeah, but we usually don't get those around here. This just showed up in my inbox and popped up on Alexa at the same time: Not great to have wind storms when all the trees are fully leafed out still
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Not that bad for Oregon ...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM SUNDAY TO 5 AM PDT MONDAY... * WHAT...South winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 40 mph expected. * WHERE...In Washington, I-5 Corridor in Cowlitz County and Greater Vancouver Area. In Oregon, Lower Columbia, Greater Portland Metro Area, Central Willamette Valley and South Willamette Valley. * WHEN...From 8 AM Sunday to 5 AM PDT Monday. * IMPACTS...Gusty winds could blow around unsecured objects. Tree limbs could be blown down and a few power outages may result.
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Bob Socko posted:Yeah, but we usually don't get those around here. This just showed up in my inbox and popped up on Alexa at the same time: well on all the weather reports nothing exists north of the border
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You guys were close but an aussie would be more like 'mate a twisty ate me dippy dog' E. Whoops that was ages ago
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Alfalfa is way worse water wise and no one cares. It's always almonds that are vilified. The ecologically sound choice is to not grow as much alfalfa as you can, like Major Major's father.
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LoudPipesSaveLives posted:You guys were close but an aussie would be more like 'mate a twisty ate me dippy dog' I assure you, friend, it was right on time.
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Brissy had a twisty yesterday https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1451358365414617089
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Akratic Method posted:The ecologically sound choice is to not grow as much alfalfa as you can, like Major Major's father. Major Major's father was rightly celebrated as an American hero
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I still can't get over someone saying "a tornayroo!" in sincere gobsmacked awe.
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Don't think my city's ever seen something like this before. We're more used to just burning down https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1452357099158061058
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My mom, who's spent 90% of her life in the greater Sacramento area, said she's seen nothing like it before. I think they were about 3.5 inches when I talked to her earlier.
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Diamonds On MY Fish posted:Don't think my city's ever seen something like this before. We're more used to just burning down Yeah, it's pretty hairy out there. At least this means we probably won't have a big fire this year, right? Right?
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:Yeah, it's pretty hairy out there. At least this means we probably won't have a big fire this year, right? LOL no. Early rain means more vegetation growth.
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Which means big fires next year. The stuff has to grow and dry out before it can burn.
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Diamonds On MY Fish posted:Don't think my city's ever seen something like this before. We're more used to just burning down
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Ardeem posted:Which means big fires next year. The stuff has to grow and dry out before it can burn. start raking now!
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know what I was watching 60 mins today and they were talking about a drought.. fakenews I guess look at all that rain CA is getting!
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that storm is coming my way about wednesday/thursday but fortunately it won't be cold enough for snow. poo poo would probably give us 8-10 inches which would be crippling for KC. last time we got a big snow storm like that power was out for basically the entire city. I got power back after almost a week
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