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thiazi
Sep 27, 2002

DerekSmartymans posted:

I haven’t had to yet. The cellular 4G LTE signal is plenty which all 3 adults for a couple of months used direct tethering to AT&T service on our iPhones. Now, I have 22down/10up through an unlimited plan with T-Mobile and the 5G tower is less than a mile from my house, basically a coin flip between us and our nearest neighbors. I don’t have a 5G phone, but will buy one when they turn it on full time in a few months. It will be nice! My dad is willing to pay for Comcast IF they offer, and he knows I want whatever they might bring wired into my room. I set up a mesh network we use now, and am able to keep it secure-ish-ly managed much better than him.

If Starlink gets as good as promised we would look into it, but three years of satellite internet (with admittedly older tech) have us very cautious!

I can’t comment on other satellite tech, but Starlink has been rock solid at my mother-in-law’s house for the 4-5 months she’s had it. Excellent speeds, easy setup, no big outages.

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devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Just got an email from Comcast, getting bumped to 900mbps at no extra charge. Sure why not.

devmd01 fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 23, 2021

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

devmd01 posted:

Just got an email from Comcast, getting bumped to 900mbps at no extra charge. Sure why not.

Download: Bumped to 900 Mbps with Xfinity!
Upload: Eat poo poo and die you still get *looks disgustedly* 11.5 mbit

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
I get almost 30 up! It's very exciting.

Real fiber is finally available but the "free" installation is going to be like $2200 for me, so that gets to wait until my budget recovers from replacing my nas

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

thiazi posted:

I can’t comment on other satellite tech, but Starlink has been rock solid at my mother-in-law’s house for the 4-5 months she’s had it. Excellent speeds, easy setup, no big outages.

That is good info. Tbh I didn’t even know SL was a realized and functioning company yet! I remember seeing talk when Elon Musk apologists were gushing over it, but completely missed to fact it was past prototype now! I’ll look it up to see what’s up!

Edit:

Azhais posted:

I get almost 30 up! It's very exciting!

My cellular gets 25-35 down relative to time of day, but the absolute lowest it’s ever hit is 17 down w/0.52 up lol). According to the company stats from my T-Mobile internet provider there are less than 30 households using the 4G LTE signals around us, and the 5G is going to practically all mine from 9pm ->9am. I don’t sleep for days in a row, so this is great specifically for me. Even if we do get good service if Comcast shows up, my plan is to keep the 5G and use it portably or if the power goes out (laptop lasts forever with a new battery from Dell). The cellular modem/router is plugged in all the time for a USB3 virtual Ethernet connection and its battery lasts forever too while running the laptop! As long as the tower isn’t ripped up or outage was longer than 4-5 hours we’re fine (if tower is gone that close to us I would have things on my mind besides “No internet!”).

DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Oct 23, 2021

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Sniep posted:

Download: Bumped to 900 Mbps with Xfinity!
Upload: Eat poo poo and die you still get *looks disgustedly* 11.5 mbit

That's about the upload I get, and I'm not sure how much real-world effect a higher upload speed would have for me. Uploading images to Imgur would probably be a little faster, I guess? I don't think I do enough things that rely on upstream bandwidth and don't do them often enough to consider it a big deal.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

CaptainSarcastic posted:

That's about the upload I get, and I'm not sure how much real-world effect a higher upload speed would have for me. Uploading images to Imgur would probably be a little faster, I guess? I don't think I do enough things that rely on upstream bandwidth and don't do them often enough to consider it a big deal.

I'm glad that it's working for you, but it does really suck that Comcast/et al. (But comcast is the worst) treat it 100% like a content delivery pipeline and 0% like a networked connection to the internet

In markets where they have a monopoly, they will min/max the upload to just barely possibly support the TCP ack traffic needed to sustain a marketed download rate under ideal conditions. Absolutely just "good luck" if you do remote work that involves data or moving files around. That upload pipe is going to be congested and insufficient for many people's use cases, cuz all Comcast thinks is that uploading has to be piracy + it costs them money to interconnect to deliver outbound traffic, easy case for just crimping the hell out of it.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

DerekSmartymans posted:

That is good info. Tbh I didn’t even know SL was a realized and functioning company yet! I remember seeing talk when Elon Musk apologists were gushing over it, but completely missed to fact it was past prototype now! I’ll look it up to see what’s up!

The biggest thing you're going to find out is they are, like everyone else, slayed by logistics issues and have a months long waiting list for equipment

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Sniep posted:

I'm glad that it's working for you, but it does really suck that Comcast/et al. (But comcast is the worst) treat it 100% like a content delivery pipeline and 0% like a networked connection to the internet

In markets where they have a monopoly, they will min/max the upload to just barely possibly support the TCP ack traffic needed to sustain a marketed download rate under ideal conditions. Absolutely just "good luck" if you do remote work that involves data or moving files around. That upload pipe is going to be congested and insufficient for many people's use cases, cuz all Comcast thinks is that uploading has to be piracy + it costs them money to interconnect to deliver outbound traffic, easy case for just crimping the hell out of it.

Yeah, I wouldn't dispute that, I'm just lucky that upstream doesn't come into play that much for me.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Azhais posted:

The biggest thing you're going to find out is they are, like everyone else, slayed by logistics issues and have a months long waiting list for equipment

I haven’t moved to Win11 yet.
I am looking forward to a Steam Deck, but only in a year or two with (hopefully) a decent price, minimum bugs, and no queue availability. The stuff about Starlink looks great, but the whole GPU hunt means I don’t want a repeat. My internet is sufficient for everything I do besides multi-gig game/software downloads. I start them late and the largest (a 42Gb Windows restore) was ready before coffee the next morning.

Believe me, to avoid stress it’s better just to be content for a while! :angel:

Edit: I don’t do WFH and can help run Dad & I’s business from a secure cell phone. It’s mostly paperwork and emails anyway, and 4G is plenty for our needs. I admit I would probably feel different if I was still married with a kid and actually needed hardware instead of just wanting the upgrades. It may take a couple of years to settle down, but I’m still glad Starlink’s first steps look promising and the Steam Deck is not vaporware anymore :D

DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Oct 24, 2021

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
Not sure this the place to ask but:

I'm renting a flat above a relative and im sharing his wifi since my living room is straight above his and signal gets here strong enough. Problem is on my desktop I'm using an old wifi usb dongle, a D-Link DWL-G122, and i been noticing speed's kinda bad on this.
Short of getting my own wired connection, should i look into other dongles and what kind?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
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CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




That dongle does Wireless G, you want once that can do Wireless AC or AX.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

TITTIEKISSER69 posted:

That dongle does Wireless G, you want once that can do Wireless AC or AX.

oh it really is that old
thanks!

Alarbus
Mar 31, 2010
You can get an AC tp link on Amazon for like $15. There are some with mimo and directional antennas for more. Maybe try a $15 one and see how it goes?

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Welp, Sonic.net cancelled my fiber install. Something about City of Oakland permits not being correct. =(

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
What are the youths doing for plug and play wifi router combos these days? Eero? It's an apartment with 5 units so not great but not awful. Usual suspects of probably 10 wifi devices between 4 people but nothing is iot bullshit. (no rings or nests or whatever.) Netflix and zoom and such are the primary uses.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

Eero is good IMO, but I also know a few employees I can complain to directly when things go wrong.

otter
Jul 23, 2007

Ask me about my XCOM and controller collection

word.

I am going to go ahead and concede at this point that Eero seems to be fine.
I have gone through a lot of fighting with them, and although I get mad at their product for not working in my home, the issue seems to be that I have real walls made of real wood (and probably lead paint on the first base coat under the other layers that were applied between 1977 and 2019.

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!
Asked this in the wrong thread before...

I'm staying with my parents for awhile. They have an ATnT modem they use for their wifi at the house. It came from ATnT.
I bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084HLB7LJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 the TP-link AC4000 Tri band router.

Assuming I get it setup correctly, will using this router instead of the stock modem/router that ATnT issues you give me better/faster wifi speeds?

-Or should I upgrade the Modem also?

Basically looking for faster/better wifi within the house. Not a real huge house, only 2k sq.ft or so one story, and I'm not real far from the modem, so it's not like I have any wifi speed problems right now - I'm just looking to make it better. Thanks for the help.
#1. Should I replace the stock free ATT modem with an upgraded newer ATT compatible modem (aftermarket) FIRST before I install this router?
#2. Will using a new modem with the router I bought give me a more stable/faster wifi connection than I'm getting with just this stock ATT hybrid?
I would think so, but I can't honestly say I know much about networking to know if that's true or not. Maybe it's throttled from ATT and it would make no difference, I'm not sure.

Dennis McClaren fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Oct 29, 2021

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Thank you network nerds.

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life

Dennis McClaren posted:

Assuming I get it setup correctly, will using this router instead of the stock modem/router that ATnT issues you give me better/faster wifi speeds?

Depends on what hardware they currently have from AT&T, what device you are using, what your current speeds you are seeing and what the my are paying for. It isn’t true that leased equipment is always worse than personally bought when it comes to performance.

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe
I'm looking for advice on how to cover a wifi dead spot in my 1200 sqft place.

I'm on ATT Fiber, 1GB symmetric, and have to use their BGW320-505 ONT/Router combo. I actually like it so don't really need to replace it. The problem is that the area where the computer resides is the furthest possible place from it and gets very little reception.

I do have an ethernet drop in that room, but I don't want to run a long cable. I heard that access points are the range and I can hook them up directly.

Question is - what should I buy? No idea where to start on APs. I looked at my local computer store and they have Unifi AC Pros in stock but I heard these are old? If I just bought one of those, would it work seamlessly with my existing router wifi?

Pretty confused here, any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
I’m assuming you mean there’s an Ethernet drop that runs back to the AT&T router in the room, but you don’t want to run a cable from that location to your PC and you want to put an AP there instead.

The AC Pro is a fine AP and it’s only old because it doesn’t support WiFi 6, which isn’t a deal breaker for everyone. Though It may be a little overkill, and also Unifi sells directly to customers and I’d be surprised if the shop wasn’t adding an up charge, when something like the TP link EAP225 or Unifi AC Lite can work just fine.

As long as the AP can run in autonomous mode, which most “prosumer” APs or wireless routers in AP mode can, it’ll work with your AT&T router. “Seamless” is questionable in a small space like an apartment as there may be a good bit of overlap between signals for devices that are roaming but a fixed in place PC will be fine.

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe

Cyks posted:

I’m assuming you mean there’s an Ethernet drop that runs back to the AT&T router in the room, but you don’t want to run a cable from that location to your PC and you want to put an AP there instead.

The AC Pro is a fine AP and it’s only old because it doesn’t support WiFi 6, which isn’t a deal breaker for everyone. Though It may be a little overkill, and also Unifi sells directly to customers and I’d be surprised if the shop wasn’t adding an up charge, when something like the TP link EAP225 or Unifi AC Lite can work just fine.

As long as the AP can run in autonomous mode, which most “prosumer” APs or wireless routers in AP mode can, it’ll work with your AT&T router. “Seamless” is questionable in a small space like an apartment as there may be a good bit of overlap between signals for devices that are roaming but a fixed in place PC will be fine.

Thank you! Yes, I don't want to run a long cable from that location to my PC and want to put an AP there instead.

I'd like to have WiFI 6 if possible for future-proofing. What are the options in this case?

Re: seamless, what kind of issues would I practically expect?

astral
Apr 26, 2004

If you're looking at Unifi, a u6-lite for ~$110 wouldn't be a bad alternative. Looks like the U6-LR at ~$180 are out of stock for a while, but that one also might be overkill for your use case.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

I would argue that future proofing with Wi-Fi 6 isn’t going to get you much over 5. Wi-Fi 6E on the other hand will eventually bring a large improvement in congested areas because of the massive increase in spectrum, though you won’t get a deal on anything supporting it yet. I don’t think Unifi have any 6E products yet.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

H110Hawk posted:

What are the youths doing for plug and play wifi router combos these days? Eero? It's an apartment with 5 units so not great but not awful. Usual suspects of probably 10 wifi devices between 4 people but nothing is iot bullshit. (no rings or nests or whatever.) Netflix and zoom and such are the primary uses.

Orbi. For me anyway. Whole family has them at this point.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Ended up with some Amazon store credit so I picked up some 2.5 GbE MoCA 2.5 adapters to replace the very much sufficient 1 GbE MoCA 2.5 adapters I had. Both Actiontec, swapping took like 5 minutes… and they were totally interoperable with all the others (I replaced one at a time). Easily one of the most painless networking technologies I’ve ever used.

Of note was that the 2.5 GbE units dropped the TV/STB output in lieu of a ‘MPS’ button, which I looked up… now you can login to the Actiontec, enable encryption, and then push that button to start synchronization. Might check that out at some point, but I have a mixed MoCA network, so not sure how that would work.

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe
Ended up picking up a U6-Lite and a POE injector at the local shop. Setup was easy and no more blind spots :)

Let's see how well it works long term

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

So I'm completely fed up with consumer grade wifi router devices in general, everytime I buy a new one it seems to work okay for 6-12 months before requiring regular reboots to keep things going.

What do fellow goons use for high grade at home wifi stuff, I'm knowledgeable about networks and wireless in general but I don't know which of the 1000s of pieces of consumer junk on the market is worth my dollars.

tl;dr What wifi router should I buy???

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


The thread philopsophy has always been to stay away from combo wifi access points and routers, and to purchase access points and routers separately.

Current favorites for access points include UniFi Nano HDs (for 802.11ac) and U6 Lites or LR (for 802.11ax/WiFi 6) and the venerable EdgeRouter X, maybe Dream Machines if you absolutely must have a combo..

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

So I'm completely fed up with consumer grade wifi router devices in general, everytime I buy a new one it seems to work okay for 6-12 months before requiring regular reboots to keep things going.

What do fellow goons use for high grade at home wifi stuff, I'm knowledgeable about networks and wireless in general but I don't know which of the 1000s of pieces of consumer junk on the market is worth my dollars.

tl;dr What wifi router should I buy???

My setup:

Orbi in bridge mode for Wi-Fi, EdgeRouter for routing, EdgeSwitch or MicroTik for hard wire switching.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
Yeah I have an orbi wifi 6 (rbr850 and 1 satellite I think) and its routing was straight up trash, there was a firmware fix for one problem that introduced another problem which at the end of the day wasn't a dealbreaker but was annoying enough, so I got an edgerouter 4 and have been happy with it for a few weeks now. I also have all my beloved routing options available to me again instead of the mish-mash of hard to access options you get in most consumer routers. Anyway the orbi is a great AP, just terrible router.

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.
I've switched from Unifi to TP-Link Omada for APs recently and am very happy so far.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
I don't like Unifi anymore

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I have TP-Link Omada ecosystem poo poo and like it, two APs, a router, and a Pi running the controller software (overkill)

FetusPorn
Jul 7, 2003

WUGT: Creatures attack and block as normal, but none deal any damage during combat. All attacking creatures are still tapped. Use this ability any time
So, is there a sub$100, reliable, AP that doesn't require some ridiculous app or cloud-based account/subscription/control system? I just wanna configure it through a web interface like normal. It'll be right here under my bed for crying out loud! I don't need mesh or wifi6 or any other whiz-bang stuff they're slinging these days.

I just upgraded to an ER-X from an old Asus wifi-router that's starting to get lovely and I need to complete the package.

Edit: Thank you kindly!
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FetusPorn fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Nov 4, 2021

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
the omada stuff does not require any of the more complex stuff that you can use, you can get one AP and run the software off of a PC and a EAP245 costs 99.99

otter
Jul 23, 2007

Ask me about my XCOM and controller collection

word.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I have TP-Link Omada ecosystem poo poo and like it, two APs, a router, and a Pi running the controller software (overkill)

Do you think one of their omada er605 routers would outperform an archer a7 if used to run just the routing? My goal is to let the eero units act as access points and let the a7 or er605 run the routing for the house.

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Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

the omada stuff does not require any of the more complex stuff that you can use, you can get one AP and run the software off of a PC and a EAP245 costs 99.99

EAP610 is the same price and wifi 6. I assume it does everything else the same as the 245

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