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croup coughfield posted:speaking of dumb im still waiting to hear why we can only have one architectural style or everyone dies If you dont build stuff such that it's too hideous to invest in, it will become an investment, and thus a cancer
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when it comes down to it, all the anarchists want is lebensraum
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scratch an anarchist and an ecofascist bleeds, many such cases! its amazing how tamed anarchists are that they are simply unable to comprehend the forces of production used for anything except capitalist exploitation. absolute kiddie brain poo poo, very sad
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Pnac's mandatory genocide number has gone up another billion if the 40mil number is the new standard
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Epic High Five posted:Pnac's mandatory genocide number has gone up another billion if the 40mil number is the new standard anarchist version of "the wall just got ten feet higher"
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Epic High Five posted:Pnac's mandatory genocide number has gone up another billion if the 40mil number is the new standard just gotta return to like 3000 BC population and development levels. simple!
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pnac attack posted:exactly as many people as there should be total like i said, they extremely want exactly this. in other words my bony fealty posted:scratch an anarchist and an ecofascist bleeds, many such cases!
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pnac attack posted:exactly as many people as there should be total 
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pnac makes sense if you come to the question with the belief that the indigenous people of the americas lived an idyllic life before the arrival of disease and conquest from europe. the europeans came out of a vent in the ground that leads to hell in the 16th century. he's not an "ecofascist" or whatever, he's a dumbass. pnac tell me what you know of atlantis
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pnac attack posted:the planet can't support this number of people living on it period man, that's why we got things like boiling oceans to worry about at all. the ruthless exploitation thing is the only reason there are so many and there's nothing sustainable about it. i don't "want" any of this poo poo. i want the poison-rear end colonists to never have escaped europe and infected the rest of the world but it's a little late for that. you can't just ignore the conditions that caused there to be 8bil+ of us because each individual has an equal right to life wrong
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pnac attack posted:exactly as many people as there should be total
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croup coughfield posted:he's not an "ecofascist" or whatever, he's a dumbass. this is a distinction without without a difference.
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croup coughfield posted:pnac makes sense if you come to the question with the belief that the indigenous people of the americas lived an idyllic life before the arrival of disease and conquest from europe. the europeans came out of a vent in the ground that leads to hell in the 16th century. he's not an "ecofascist" or whatever, he's a dumbass. pnac tell me what you know of atlantis tell me what you know about indigenous people of the americas. no one in this thread even knew what fish camp was
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pnac attack posted:tell me what you know about indigenous people of the americas. no one in this thread even knew what fish camp was how about you gently caress off. there's nothing to discuss with someone who thinks mass death of non-whites is cool good and natural.
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pnac attack posted:tell me what you know about indigenous people of the americas. no one in this thread even knew what fish camp was Pnac legit question. Who do you think will most suffer from impending climate disaster?
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:pnac I have no idea how to explain to you that literally billions, a number so large that it is beyond real human comprehension, of people with just as much of a right to live as you have -- who happen to be some of the poorest and least white -- will die due to the collapse and/or reduction of infrastructure that keeps them alive that your ideology requires. more to the point, no matter how much you wish those untold billions to die, you'll never be able to kill them because they have infrastructure and you don't. the power to establish your ideal society requires, well, power
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Lol "this thread has been reported already"
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pnac attack posted:exactly as many people as there should be total 
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exmarx posted:when it comes down to it, all the anarchists want is lebensraum
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:pnac I have no idea how to explain to you that literally billions, a number so large that it is beyond real human comprehension, of people with just as much of a right to live as you have -- who happen to be some of the poorest and least white -- will die due to the collapse and/or reduction of infrastructure that keeps them alive that your ideology requires. The planet cannot support this many people living in fish camps, nevertheless the world we live in has a lot of people in it, and they don't deserve to die because you want to go live in the woods. they need to be housed and fed, and ideally in a way that gives them a much better standard of life than the one they currently have now, ruthlessly exploited in the name of global capitalism. you can't just ignore these people because they're inconvenient to your primitivist fantasy. You lack vision. Imagine, if you will, a different world. A world where men and fish live in harmony. Instead of the stresses and complexities of modern life, you wake up in the morning, walk to the shore, and cast your rod (constructed from human bone, a material found to be optimal for fishing rods in the After Years) into the sea. No one has authority over you. It's just you, the fish, and your fishing rod constructed from human bones.
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i have learned the ways of the indigenous americans and fish camp and have come to the conclusion that it is the only way mankind can survive the coming disasters we must seek to establish a fish camp based world, no matter the cost Goast has issued a correction as of 00:35 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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it's gonna be like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-bxPsxpE0
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pnac attack posted:tell me what you know about indigenous people of the americas. no one in this thread even knew what fish camp was for when you get back: it may surprise you to learn that hunter-gatherer bands and tribes were not really the norm prior to european contact. many of the indigenous peoples of the americas built massive, centralized cities throughout, supported by intensive, sedentary agriculture and strict hierarchy. there were long chains of villages and towns and smaller cities that mostly existed as travel and trade hubs for those big, centralized city-states. wars were very frequent - constant in some periods - to enforce the interests of those larger polities on the smaller ones. that's what we call in the trade an "empire". the societies of indigenous americans that we learn about in america are mostly after they were weakened and scattered by the consequences of european contact (especially virulent disease). they were just people, doing people poo poo much the same way as the rest of the world. they were moved by historical forces such as resource conflict just like any other people. the americas were not a spiritual anarchist utopia before the arrival of the spanish. hunter-gatherer bands and tribes did exist outside of those lanes of centralized development, but their historical impact is nowhere near as significant as the cities'. by way of a simplistic example, the sentinelese dont get to make regional or global policy decisions vis a vis climate change despite being directly impacted by it. they just dont have enough political power. one of the reasons i encourage you to read more is because you have a very ahistorical view of the world, where things happen for no reason beyond the moral decisions of individuals made in a vacuum. with this view, it makes sense that you'd jump to these (frankly insane) conclusions about the nature of history and historical interactions between disparate peoples and those consequences.
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pnac read Engels
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Skyelan posted:this is a distinction without without a difference. if someone being ignorant is the same as them being a loud and proud fascist, what's the solution?
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croup coughfield posted:if someone being ignorant is the same as them being a loud and proud fascist, what's the solution? there’s a limited number of solutions to someone being a fascist, unfortunately, and they’re difficult to deploy on forums
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Anyone who cites overpopulation as a real concern is a useful idiot for genocide. We're producing enough food to feed over 10 billion people.
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Skyelan posted:this is a distinction without without a difference. the difference is that a fascist could get elected to public office or organize behind a cohesive political project that could do harm. if there's one thing that you can be sure about pnac and anarchists like him its that they're both too loving dumb to organize in any politically meaningful way and if, somehow, they accidentally found themselves with even a modicum of political power or will they'd squander it immediately on the stupidest poo poo imaginable (see: CHAZ)
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I'll also note that CHAZ was harmful to the black kids those anarchists murdered but that's less ecofascism and more just what comfortable idle white people (the bulk of self-identified anarchists, let's not kid ourselves) love to do when given the opportunity
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why is it that every time i open this thread some anarkiddie will inevitably have come up with something even stupider than last time?
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LonsomeSon posted:there’s a limited number of solutions to someone being a fascist, unfortunately, and they’re difficult to deploy on forums that doesn't answer my question.
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Cerebral Bore posted:why is it that every time i open this thread some anarkiddie will inevitably have come up with something even stupider than last time? Always more, always worse
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croup coughfield posted:that doesn't answer my question. I’m not familiar with any reliable method to persuade someone who believes that the vast majority of humans need to die in order for The Correct Way Of Living to come about that human lives have more value and meaning than their dream world, which can be deployed on anonymous forums. The traditional method of “mock and/or lecture at them until they either go away or gain control over their emotions” is probably as effective as anything else on the internet? The problem is that someone operating under such ethically bankrupt assumptions has dug themselves a very deep hole of self-justification which they will need to climb out of.
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Cerebral Bore posted:why is it that every time i open this thread some anarkiddie will inevitably have come up with something even stupider than last time? a question that answers itself
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LonsomeSon posted:I’m not familiar with any reliable method to persuade someone who believes that the vast majority of humans need to die in order for The Correct Way Of Living to come about that human lives have more value and meaning than their dream world, which can be deployed on anonymous forums. dunno man just seems like there's not much to be gained with that attitude
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croup coughfield posted:dunno man just seems like there's not much to be gained with that attitude one of the problems with people who hunger for mass death is that there just isn’t that much to be gained with them, outside of their encountering some event or information which has direct impact on whatever people they care about i can’t do that over the forums, nor can i actually do it in real life
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gay_crimes posted:monogamous relationships are authoritarian, illegitimate, autocratic, Stalinist, etc yeah that's why they're good
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