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Grittybeard posted:*still employs Tom Cable* *still employs Ritchie Incognito*
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 23:07 |
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BlindSite posted:Now I'm curious. Has it ever worked? Marv Levy with the Bills and Don Coryell with the Chargers were both mentioned as successful examples, but both were hired from outside the organization and both had previous NFL head coaching experience. Coryell had been fired from the Cardinals because their ownership was idiotic and everyone knew it, while Levy had been successful in the CFL before a meh-stint with the Chiefs and then time in the USFL before going to Buffalo. Interestingly, the Colts did the same thing late in the same year (1986) hiring Ron Meyer, who then traded for Eric Dickerson the following year before trading way too much to draft Jeff George a few years later. At a very quick glance over midseason coaching changes, those are the only ones that jumped out to me where the new coach came from outside the organization. As far as the interim thing from within the organization goes, Marty Schottenheimer replaced Sam Rutigliano midseason in 1984 and worked out for the Browns. I can't remember if it was him or Jeff Fisher in Houston, but IIRC it was one of them who told their respective owner that they wouldn't take the job with an "interim" title, and instantly were named as they new head coach for the rest of that season and going forward. A bit before Jeff Fisher, the Oilers did the same thing with Jerry Glanville, and he had a few not-terrible seasons before going to Atlanta. Art Shell with the Raiders in the late 80s I think was a similar situation, where Al Davis just named him as the new coach when he fired Mike Shanahan and that was it, and he did okay for a few years. There's also some guys who hung around for a fairly long time, had winning seasons and made the playoffs after being interim coaches, but nobody would regard as more than average at their jobs. Jason Garrett is probably the best recent example, but Wayne Fontes for the Lions would be similar to me.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:29 |
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Benne posted:Settling for your interim coach always works, just ask Freddie Kitchens and Mike Singletary
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:33 |
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Mike Mularkey managed to win a playoff game two seasons after being an interim coach and still got fired.
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Mega64 posted:Mike Mularkey managed to win a playoff game two seasons after being an interim coach and still got fired. He was a dead man walking long before the
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:47 |
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fartknocker posted:He was a dead man walking long before the The most egregiously incorrect forward progress call happened in this game too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkT_mNU6ecI Called forward progress so they couldn't even review it to see if he was down before the ball came out or whatever. Still angry.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 01:54 |
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Grittybeard posted:The most egregiously incorrect forward progress call happened in this game too.
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Grittybeard posted:The most egregiously incorrect forward progress call happened in this game too. No problem. Just start calling this a win and claim it's actually KC's real record.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 04:41 |
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a neat cape posted:*still employs Ritchie Incognito* Incognito doesn't have a wife or girlfriend to hit
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 05:52 |
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half cocaine posted:Seahawks subreddit was calling for Ken Norton to be fired in favor of gregggg lol. Seahawks fans are dumb as hell. To be fair, I'd take Play-Calling-Goldfish or Twitch Plays Seattle Defense over Ken Norton Jr. I've never seen someone throw zone blitzes at such weird moments.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 07:45 |
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:No problem. Just start calling this a win and claim it's actually KC's real record. I mean, if a KC fan says they actually won that game and the refs screwed them, they aren't wrong.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 13:58 |
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Bowles and Dan Campbell we’re both Dolphins interim head coaches. Any other interims that went onto getting an actual gig elsewhere?
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:08 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Bowles and Dan Campbell we’re both Dolphins interim head coaches. Any other interims that went onto getting an actual gig elsewhere? Wade Phillips I guess. Not NFL related but trying to look up a list somewhere I remembered Dabo Swinney was an interim head coach at Clemson. He's an rear end but it's hard to say hiring him permanently didn't work out. e: Huh, Wade's been an interim head coach three different times. That's an accomplishment of sorts. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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Thinking of Wade and how he was the ultimate "really good coordinator but probably shouldn't be a head coach" made me think of Norv Turner and I'm actually having the hardest time figuring out if he's actually hired or not because the wiki on him just kinda ends on 2019.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:42 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Bowles and Dan Campbell we’re both Dolphins interim head coaches. Any other interims that went onto getting an actual gig elsewhere? Not a lot. I'm assuming that we're excluding guys who had previously been head coaches, like Pat Shurmur had his stint with the Browns before briefly being the interim coach of the Eagles after Chip Kelly was fired and then later getting the Giants job after being an okay OC for the Vikings. Probably the best example is Bruce Arians, and he's the only one I can think of off hand. He had effectively retired after the Steelers didn't renew his contract after the 2011 season and didn't expect to get another job until Chuck Pagano asked him to be the OC in 2012 with rookie Andrew Luck. Arians became the interim coach when Pagano was diagnosed with leukemia after 3 games, went 9-3 as the coach, and became the first interim coach to get the Coach of the Year award. That season turned him from a reasonably well known and respected coordinator who barely got an interview above that into a hot coaching candidate, and he went to the Cardinals the next season.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:54 |
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The Cowboys did Wade Phillips head coach dirty
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:00 |
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Probably Magic posted:Thinking of Wade and how he was the ultimate "really good coordinator but probably shouldn't be a head coach" made me think of Norv Turner and I'm actually having the hardest time figuring out if he's actually hired or not because the wiki on him just kinda ends on 2019. fartknocker posted:Not a lot. I'm assuming that we're excluding guys who had previously been head coaches, like Pat Shurmur had his stint with the Browns before briefly being the interim coach of the Eagles after Chip Kelly was fired and then later getting the Giants job after being an okay OC for the Vikings.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:28 |
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Grigson didn’t go nuts until after that season, his first year was okay.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:50 |
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Can you please loving fire Flores already? I don't know what else you need to see.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:12 |
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I said I'm sorry Dolphins I never meant to hurt you I never meant to make you cry, but tonight I'm cleaning out my office
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:14 |
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An exception to the First Year Coach rule should be made for Sirianni's seat, at this point
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:22 |
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Kirios posted:Can you please loving fire Flores already? I don't know what else you need to see. [one of those pawn stars memes] "best I can do is trade for a rapist"
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:25 |
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Matt Nagy is a failed state
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:28 |
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Benne posted:Matt Nagy is a failed state Bosnia got better. Nagy I dunno
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Benne posted:Matt Nagy is a failed state He was as broken by the Double Doink as the Jets were by the Buttfumble.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:34 |
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Benne posted:Matt Nagy is a failed state Someone call NATO
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:37 |
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Benne posted:Matt Nagy is a failed state It’s amazing seeing the contrasting coaching decisions of the two NFC North coaches that were heavy road underdogs. Campbell going as aggressive as possible as early as possible to try and put his team in the best position to win and then Nagy just rolling over and playing dead.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:55 |
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yeah you gotta put nick sirrachi as a flaming hot seat because he is poo poo awful worse than joe judgement and is obviously just a placeholder for gruden.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:08 |
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Benne posted:Matt Nagy is a failed state https://twitter.com/AdamHoge/status/1452418062880317444?s=20
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:07 |
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is there a hotter than spicy hot? And if so, who goes on it, flores or nagy?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:11 |
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really queer Christmas posted:is there a hotter than spicy hot? And if so, who goes on it, flores or nagy? Fangio
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:12 |
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por qué no los tres?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:17 |
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Chris James 2 posted:An exception to the First Year Coach rule should be made for Sirianni's seat, at this point
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:19 |
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you cant give the urban meyer jags their first win of the season and then fail a comeback against the worst iteration of the falcons yet with your starting qb back playing his best football to date never thought i would be saying this but fire flores
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:21 |
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really queer Christmas posted:is there a hotter than spicy hot? And if so, who goes on it, flores or nagy? Yes. a neat cape posted:Fangio Yes.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:34 |
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https://twitter.com/danwiederer/status/1452432783742230531 That, uh, sure sounds like a coach saying goodbye to his players
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 02:48 |
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Kyle Shanahan is getting dumber by the game.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 12:29 |
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In the first half of Eagles/Raiders game, the Eagles forced a 4th and 4 around midfield, and the Raiders brought their punt unit on the field. However, there was an offensive holding penalty on the Raiders during the previous play. Nick Sirianni accepted the penalty. It was now 3rd and 14, and the Raiders offense comes back on the field. Next play, the Raiders go 30 yards. After the game, Sirianni said the reasoning was he thought the Raiders were going to go for it on 4th because that's what the Eagles would've done according to his own analytics chart. The Raiders had their punt unit on the field. Upgrade that man to mild. shyduck fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Oct 25, 2021 |
# ? Oct 25, 2021 13:14 |
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lol jfc Sirianni
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 13:20 |
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I think he’ll get one more year, probably was brought on with the understanding that this is a rebuild season. That said, he’s extremely obviously not the guy.
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