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T-Paine posted:yeah i wanted to gif that. it's a good distillation of how hosed we are Dont worry, we got this, just have to stop all new fossil fuel exploration this year: 2021 Approvals for new oil and gas developments, coal mines, and mine extensions must cease immediately. Oh wait: https://www.yahoo.com/now/beating-oil-gas-industry-biden-110000396.html After campaigning on reining in oil and gas companies and curbing climate change, President Joe Biden is scrambling to find ways to lower energy prices — and counting on help from the industry. The average per-gallon price of gasoline stands at $3.29 nationally, the highest level in seven years. Oil is also at its highest price in that time frame. Rising natural gas prices are expected to raise heating bills by about 30% this winter. With general inflation also high and dragging down Biden's approval ratings, rising energy prices are a threat to the president's agenda. Biden has already been forced to ask global oil producers in OPEC+ to increase output to boost global supply in hopes of lowering costs. And this week, the White House has been reportedly consulting with the oil and gas industry about lowering prices — an industry whose footprint Biden has sought to shrink.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 13:33 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:47 |
Well, we got two months still. I'm sure Biden has this
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 13:39 |
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The best part is that the 0,5% commitments will be instantly disregarded as too optimistic, best case scenario, let's be realistic here and increase emissions by 10%
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 14:30 |
Yeah even the lovely, insufficient targets we've set are getting eviscerated. Technology won't save us, politics won't save us, personal action won't save us, sabotage won't save us, we're going to walk confidently into the apocalypse because preventing it was too hard and could have made some billionaires sad
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 14:37 |
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I like the section headlined "It's not too late" which says all electricity generation must be net-zero and all houses converted to electrical heating 18 years from now while generating no extra emissions. In 28 years, 90% of heavy industry must be net-zero worldwide, also while generating no extra emissions in the changeover. Having done that, there's 10 years left to suck 7.6 billion metric tons of carbon straight out of the air and storing it somewhere. Edit: Wait, gently caress, I meant -5 years (negative) to finish sucking out the carbon RIP Syndrome has issued a correction as of 14:45 on Oct 24, 2021 |
# ? Oct 24, 2021 14:40 |
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lol rime stop posting in the bad place
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 14:42 |
Climate collapse is fixed. https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/23/weather/weather-trees-adapt-climate-change/index.html quote:By 2050, Miami Beach's palms should make up no more than 25% of the public tree population, according to Miami Beach's Rising Above plan. quote:But Florida's beloved palms are the least effective at carbon sequestration. The average palm in southern Florida only absorbs 5 pounds of CO2 per year. quote:Regardless, the concern is that a standard passenger vehicle emits about 10,000 pounds (4.6 metric tons) of CO2 per year, which means we need a lot of trees to combat the amount of vehicles on the roads. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS DINGUS!
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 14:46 |
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Miami Beach Above Water Tree Census 2050: One (1) Large Palm Tree Six (6) Small Mangrove One (1) Skeleton Arm Poking Out of the Sand Giving a Thumbs-Up Success!!
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:05 |
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Car Hater posted:Miami Beach Above Water Tree Census 2050:
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:21 |
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:28 |
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I like the idea of trees fighting cars.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:41 |
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Hexigrammus posted:Another p-hacker gets bitten in the nads. I remember when principle component analysis was a visualization tool during data cleanup, not the final step before publishing a paper. I read that guys book 5 years ago lol e https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14481524-fat-chance Slider has issued a correction as of 15:54 on Oct 24, 2021 |
# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:48 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:scrolling the page while watching the graph on the left update, giggling like a maniac the COVID thread and this one are so deeply linked
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:48 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Climate collapse is fixed. ah yes, let us plant more oak trees in Miami Their roots will convert the saltwater at ground level into harmless, useful gasoline while protecting against the environment that is increasingly inhospitable to them i am a tree scientist
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:54 |
Nice to meet you, what do you do for a living? I'm a guy who studies the tree. A tree scientest.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:13 |
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more carbon = more hot + more tree = less carbon + less carbon = less hot = More Tree.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:16 |
still beyond stunned that someone wrote out that one (1) tree absorbs 3000 pounds of carbon dioxide in its lifetime, then went on to write that one (1) passenger vehicle generates 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide in a loving year and their takeaway was "we need to plant more trees"
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:19 |
destroying one single car gets you 450 tree-years after only a year
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:20 |
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More. Tree.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:37 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:still beyond stunned that someone wrote out that one (1) tree absorbs 3000 pounds of carbon dioxide in its lifetime, then went on to write that one (1) passenger vehicle generates 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide in a loving year and their takeaway was "we need to plant more trees" it owns
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:44 |
the amazon is getting deforested to the point that it's no longer a carbon sink but a net carbon emitter. We need more fuckin' trees people. Simple as
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:45 |
Boomers were raised on nonsense stories about Johnny Appleseed and every time a heat wave hits they talk about we need to plant more trees. It's a very consistent theme in boomer logic
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:53 |
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T-Paine posted:the amazon is getting deforested to the point that it's no longer a carbon sink but a net carbon emitter. We need more fuckin' trees people. Simple as i keep trying but the splinters are rough
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:03 |
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The most frustrating part is no one will ever say "it's too late" or advocate for any real change, but will instead just go "acktually, it can always get worse, so maybe we should try to limit the warming to 2.4C"
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:33 |
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Narrator: They did not try to limit it to 2.4C
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:37 |
Don't let the perfect (the sustained survival of some form of human civilization) be the enemy of the good (collapse happens in 2041 instead of 2040)
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:40 |
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KaptainKrunk posted:The most frustrating part is no one will ever say "it's too late" or advocate for any real change, but will instead just go "acktually, it can always get worse, so maybe we should try to limit the warming to 2.4C" the problem is the people who are already saying "it's too late" are the ones bought and paid for by the oil companies so they're not ever going to advocate for any real change
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:41 |
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We always complain about bitcoin mining, how much computer processing is used to make endless reports of what would happen if this thing that wouldn't happen anyway would do which even if it was done wouldn't be useful
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:43 |
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i really like the language of just collapse, because it cleaves away a lot of the confusion of the "too late" debate. it is "too late" to save our consumptive society, always has been. but there is still opportunity for a more just collapse.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:46 |
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i like how "just collapse" works as a double entendre
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 18:58 |
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loving council dumped glyphosate on my native lilies!!!
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 19:20 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:still beyond stunned that someone wrote out that one (1) tree absorbs 3000 pounds of carbon dioxide in its lifetime, then went on to write that one (1) passenger vehicle generates 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide in a loving year and their takeaway was "we need to plant more trees" the population is going up and that means more cars and trucks on the road, you can't separate motor vehicles and population that's just not possible unless you were going to commit a tyranny and infringe on AR FREEDOMS but that'd never happen especially in the great free state of sunny, funny Florida
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 19:30 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:loving council dumped glyphosate on my native lilies!!! wow that's a load of bullshit
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 19:36 |
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Good news, everyone, after evil polluting coal is taken down in the US by clean oil and clean natural gas and solar and wind and hydro and clean coal a new threat is rearing its head to fight. Plastic manufacturing is well on the way to overtaking coal's carbon emissions.quote:As of 2020, the U.S. plastics industry is responsible for at least 232 million tons of CO2e gas emissions per year. This amount is equivalent to the average emissions from 116 average-sized (500-megawatt) coal-fired power plants. We'll be fighting the good fight for decades to come!
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 19:51 |
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Complications posted:decades lol good one punchy
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 20:02 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:lol good one punchy hell never ends
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 20:16 |
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only the most wildly optimistic and zealously hopeful people think this will be over quickly
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:45 |
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Trabisnikof posted:i keep trying but the splinters are rough Thank you for taking individual responsibility. If everybody stepped up to the plate like you maybe we'd have a chance
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 22:21 |
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MightyBigMinus posted:only the most wildly optimistic and zealously hopeful people think this will be over quickly it seems like wishful thinking
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 22:22 |
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MightyBigMinus posted:only the most wildly optimistic and zealously hopeful people think this will be over quickly "We went to the moon in less than a decade, surely we can fix everything that's wrong with the planet in less than that because we have better computers and blockchain now!"
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:01 |