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Jerusalem posted:It's both funny and maddening that the piledriver got banned because the Undertaker gave HHH a stinger with the Tombstone Piledriver, and as a result the only person who could be trusted enough to still use the Tombstone Piledriver from that point on was.... The Undertaker. Plus the tombstone piledriver is counting on someone to support your weight, a piledriver is making sure your head doesn't stick out past someone's thighs. I know which one I'd rather take.
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sba posted:I thought it was banned after Owen/Austin? No the traditional piledriver was used for years after that. https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1452033621846597640 https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1452039365744541698
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:a take for when you definitely watched wcw He's right though. Hall and Nash and Hogan had creative control clauses that ruined a lot of things. The thing that idiot doesn't understand is that nobody in AEW has creative control clauses in their contract and even if someone like Jericho has that he hasn't used it to protect himself from putting over younger talent.
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Elephant Ambush posted:He's right though. Hall and Nash and Hogan had creative control clauses that ruined a lot of things. Hogan very rarely invoked creative control. He did in 94 to prevent losing to Flair and then in 2000 and other than that I don't think he actually used it. In between he used the huge amount of influence he had, from sympathetic bookers to getting in the ears of talent or staff to make sure he got his way. Nash I don't think had creative control in his contract, he just acquired influence and then became the booker. This is all stuff that could happen in AEW but really didn't. What's funny is the Elite got pushed harder once Tony took more creative control!
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MassRafTer posted:Hogan very rarely invoked creative control. He did in 94 to prevent losing to Flair and then in 2000 and other than that I don't think he actually used it. In between he used the huge amount of influence he had, from sympathetic bookers to getting in the ears of talent or staff to make sure he got his way. Nash I don't think had creative control in his contract, he just acquired influence and then became the booker. This is all stuff that could happen in AEW but really didn't. What's funny is the Elite got pushed harder once Tony took more creative control! Nash booked himself into a retirement match and booked himself to lose so that he could ride out his contract and get paid without having to wrestle. Then WCW got mad and tried to make him commentator on Thunder to recoup some of the losses and Nash did nothing but make shoot comments and literally called out this exact IRL situation. Don't get me wrong here, I love Nash for doing that because I will always champion the working class vs the owners but it hosed over a bunch of angles and took him off TV where he would draw money. This whole thing is entirely the fault of the people who agreed to give those 3 guys creative control clauses in their contracts. They were already getting paid obscene amounts of money just to lure them away from WWF, they didn't need to be like "also you can veto losses lol".
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Seams posted:thank you wwe for convincing people a wrestling move is legit dangerous! Quite the feat since any kid who likes wrestling figured out how to safely take and give it to their friends just from common sense.
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Don’t disappoint Kurtz, Satin.
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MassRafTer posted:What's funny is the Elite got pushed harder once Tony took more creative control! Wasn't there conflict between Tony and the Elite in the early days cause the Elite wanted to put other guys over to prove AEW wasn't a vanity promotion and Tony thought the Elite were the stars and should be pushed strong?
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Rarity posted:Wasn't there conflict between Tony and the Elite in the early days cause the Elite wanted to put other guys over to prove AEW wasn't a vanity promotion and Tony thought the Elite were the stars and should be pushed strong? Cody had to basically be talked out of putting Darby over at Fyter Fest 2019.
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MassRafTer posted:https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1452033621846597640 That said: "Exposing secrets is soul crushing at the end of the day imo. [...] I want to lift people up going forward instead." What soul-crushing secrets was he exposing at ProWrestlingSheet? I don't have any issue with his actual decisions to take those jobs one bit and never have. (ESPECIALLY given the reasons he deserved to have a much less stressful job.) But why is he out here acting like he was doing sexual misconduct reporting or something similarly weighty and implying that reporters aren't exposing secrets that need to be exposed?
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Satin is right, stenography is a hard job because sometimes people talk way faster than you can type.
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 This opened up a can of worms, as you can imagine. quote:every story I've heard is it was all part of kayfabe (biker gimmicks) on a similar note, which recently got pointed out to me. How many wrestlers or bikers for that matter use the iron cross? quote:EVERY symbol used by the Nazis was appropriated from somewhere else. Then after their fall, all of their logos were repurposed by biker gangs with no affiliation or agreement with the Nazis. Yes, Harris did wear a t-shirt with that logo. But he was repping motorcycle culture, not Nazis. The assumption that either Harris twin is associated with racism isn't from their ignorance of history, but from other people's ignorance of history. quote:I think we all forget sometimes how fast unfounded rumors can spread in wrestling. As Jim Cornette would say, when you want to spread news, telephone, telegraph, or tell a wrestler.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Extremely normal to highlight the racial makeup of someone’s family completely unprompted. big Nestor energy
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Elephant Ambush posted:Nash booked himself into a retirement match and booked himself to lose so that he could ride out his contract and get paid without having to wrestle. Then WCW got mad and tried to make him commentator on Thunder to recoup some of the losses and Nash did nothing but make shoot comments and literally called out this exact IRL situation. But Nash didn't have a creative control clause. He was made the booker. Only Hogan had one.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:
Happily it's not like outlaw biker culture is infested with Nazi... oh. What's that? It really, really is? Oh. Oh, dear.
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davidbix posted:"Exposing secrets is soul crushing at the end of the day imo. [...] I want to lift people up going forward instead." well his two sources at PWS were Chyna's scuzzy manager and Ryback, dealing with them all the time would be soul-crushing to me
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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/FlyerAdam88/status/1452349153749700621?t=qpT_8SKnoCksJ9nfwNpz8Q&s=19 That's why it'd be funny if she went to AEW (though I rather not see that), because all these people who call her the best would immediately turn on her
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oh poo poo adam there is like Darkstar's posting nemesis
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The note there isnt best in current WWE or best ever in WWE but best in womens wrestling ever. The mountain is Charlotte then Manami Toyota apparently.
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Davros1 posted:That's why it'd be funny if she went to AEW (though I rather not see that), because all these people who call her the best would immediately turn on her I dunno. If someone is weird enough to be a hardcore Charlotte-fan, I could see them turning on WWE is she left in bad terms.
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Vince McMahon is truly a beacon of progress https://twitter.com/JobberNationTV/status/1451353567034445834
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Pinche Rudo posted:Vince McMahon is truly a beacon of progress I think we've found it. We've found THE take. This is the Take you find at the top of Mount Take after defeating the Take Monster in the cave beneath the summit. We are witnesses to the final victory of the rear end over the brain. Pack it in, close the thread, behead it and chuck it in a mass grave after torturing a confession out of it, it's over. maruhkati fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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Kennel posted:I dunno. If someone is weird enough to be a hardcore Charlotte-fan, I could see them turning on WWE is she left in bad terms. Bryan Danielson left on the best possible terms and said nothing but positive things about his experience since then, and these people still turned on him for being an ungrateful traitor. They have fully bought in to "the brand is the star."
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maruhkati posted:I think we've found it. We've found THE take. This is the Take you find at the top of Mount Take after defeating the Take Monster in the cave beneath the summit. We are witnesses to the final victory of the rear end over the brain. It's not that unique, the whole point of the Saudis paying for these shows is to make people think that
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I'm not sure what would be funnier, those Saudi tweets being real or being astro turfed
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I'm not sure what would be funnier, those Saudi tweets being real or being astro turfed Funniest option is if it's real but because the user has been convinced by the astro turfing.
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Benne posted:Bryan Danielson left on the best possible terms and said nothing but positive things about his experience since then, and these people still turned on him for being an ungrateful traitor. They have fully bought in to "the brand is the star." There are the takes that Bryan was having better matches in WWE because he was main eventing Mania and AEW can't compete eith that.
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Renaissance Spam posted:Funniest option is if it's real but because the user has been convinced by the astro turfing. No, because that's too much like other, much more dangerous poo poo.
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Gaz-L posted:No, because that's too much like other, much more dangerous poo poo. Ah you've taken the sob uncontrollably choice to that little issue. I have taken the laugh hysterically path but I nod to you, fellow traveller.
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See, sometimes I think about quitting this thread, but this is the poo poo that keeps me coming back.
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