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Oct 16, 2021 13:47
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I mean, Keychron boards are super cheap in price. Like shockingly cheap for what you can do with them. I’ve been happy with my C1 and K7, deliveries on both were quick and efficient, but I haven’t experienced any issues yet to have to deal with their customer service. That being said, you will get what you pay for.
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Oct 17, 2021 03:36
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Blinkz0rz posted:I had an issue where the ctrl key on my Kickstarter K3 died and they required a video and a ton of back and forth to even acknowledge that it was an issue. I had to basically threaten to drag them on social media for them to try to fix the issue and ship me a working one. I volunteered to send the old one back but Yeah their support is pretty abysmal. Luckily I was able to find a replacement bluetooth switch for my K8 on digikey with little effort so I didn't have to rely on them. I already had it fixed before they even replied to me initially and thy ghosted me immediately after their first response acknowledging that they had received my email.
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Oct 17, 2021 05:11
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They're not the only budget name in the game anymore and nobody else seems to have trouble standing behind their product, so "you will get what you pay for" is a little snooty and definitely zero excuse for this kind of anti-customer behavior imo. Anyway, please join me in fervently wishing that the Plum/NiZ 82 comes back in stock on Amazon before my current keeb return window runs out 
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Oct 17, 2021 18:03
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I've been waiting for the K10 to come back in stock, but with all these comments on Keychron's lovely service maybe someone will know of an alternative. I'm looking for something that is: - Full-sized - Both wireless and wired capable (preferably with multiple paired devices for the wireless mode) - Hot-swappable As far as the size goes, I'm willing to compromise and get one of the layouts where the numpad is squished together with the rest of the board, but I need a numpad of some sort. I could also live without it being hot-swappable but it would need to be available with some good blue switches.
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Oct 17, 2021 20:12
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I'm in the same boat as i vomit kittens, but I'd be fine with TKL and wired. Hot-swap and a row of function keys is my bare minimum, really. The GMMK Pro is both pricy and a bit weird-looking to my eyes, but is it really the "budget" go-to for those features now?
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Oct 17, 2021 20:34
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Mechmap has a decent list broken up by size, though you'll have to dig in to each one to get a full feature list. As a general rule the bigger the size the fewer the wireless options: https://www.mechmap.tech/themap There's also Thocstock, though it's mostly hobby-level boards that are typically more expensive: https://thocstock.com/keyboards
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Oct 17, 2021 20:44
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Unsinkabear posted:They're not the only budget name in the game anymore and nobody else seems to have trouble standing behind their product, so "you will get what you pay for" is a little snooty and definitely zero excuse for this kind of anti-customer behavior imo. For wireless they pretty much are still the only name in the game. That's presumably why they believe they can get away with actively hostile customer service as a way of saving costs. Eventually technology will sufficiently catch up to give them competition in that market, and then they likely will swiftly be driven out of business.
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Oct 17, 2021 21:09
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I wonder if it makes a difference whether you order your Keychron keyboards from the Kickstarter campaign when they’re brand new, vs ordering from their webstore. My Kickstarter experience was really good, but it’s the only thing I’ve ever backed there. When I was doing the shopping that eventually lead to my Keychron K2 purchase all the alternatives were a bit more expensive, came from shady looking websites, and/or had insane shipping costs to Canada.
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Oct 17, 2021 21:24
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Eric the Mauve posted:For wireless they pretty much are still the only name in the game. That's presumably why they believe they can get away with actively hostile customer service as a way of saving costs. Eventually technology will sufficiently catch up to give them competition in that market, and then they likely will swiftly be driven out of business. I'm typing this on a non-Keychron keyboard with a slightly cheaper price, similar feature list, has bluetooth, and 2.4ghz. I always use the latter so I can't comment on the stability of the former, but it exists and I doubt it's worse enough to be worth the hassle. It would be one thing if the rest of the Keychron boards was superb, but people complain about the QA too.
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Oct 18, 2021 00:08
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Do you mean a mechanical keyboard? If so please share, your ideas intrigue me and I wish to learn more. FWIW I had no complaints about the build quality of the K2 I bought, it seemed very good for $70 to me.
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Oct 18, 2021 04:09
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Eric the Mauve posted:Do you mean a mechanical keyboard? If so please share, your ideas intrigue me and I wish to learn more. I have no ideas, only dumb questions. Yes mechanical, it's this one. Ignore the terrible photos, they look much better in person. But it does have PWM at high brightness settings though, so I have to keep the RGB turned down to a pretty subtle level. Switches are unlisted but I think they're Kailh? No idea how it compares to a Keychron from an enthusiast eye, it's just what i was told to get instead and my pleb fingers like it so far. I got the impression from YouTube that there were other budget names as well and Keychron was on the wait out as you predicted, but maybe not? I'm happy to give the bluetooth a test since there seem to be a lot of people itt who care about that.
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Oct 18, 2021 07:38
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Hello, got a Ducky one 2 TKL skyline (no lights) today and I am very happy with it as it is my first mechanical keyboard. I have two questions: 1. I cannot seem to record more than two macros for windows hotkeys: I assign mute to FN+m, then I assign "louder" to FN+o and when I try to assign the third macro "volume down" to FN+k no macro work anymore. I also noticed that setting them up is somewhat finnicky: Sometimes it would not work and sometimes the volume would keep getting higher. Is that normal? Do I need to fiddle with dip-switches or something? I am not really interested in any other macros except maybe for the one to bring the calculator. 2. Firmware update does not work. Downloaded a .rar file from the website, extracted it, renamed the .ex to an .exe and it told me the firmware on the keyboard was higher than what the software provided, even though before that it indicated it was older in the info-box. What is that about? Other than that it looks great and works even better (brown switches). Typing on it is a joy. Thank you for considering my questions. e: This guy seems to have the same problem so I guess it may be the keyboard. e2: It looks like it only remembers the last macro. Doing the above and FN+c for calculator brings up the calculator on FN+O and others. Weird. e3: Another guy also had the these problems a year ago. Wish I could update the firmware. I thought this was a respectable company. Oh well. Nevermind then. lllllllllllllllllll fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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Oct 19, 2021 20:27
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Are there any thread favorite desk mats? Maybe some cuteness or color on a budget? My current Cookie Cat mousepad is starting to get gross and feels like it's always bumping up against my keyboard, so I think it's time to upgrade. But everything else on my desk is dark/black hardware so if I do a full-size black mat (which most of the basic ones seem to be) it's going to start feeling a little grim over here.
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Oct 20, 2021 19:14
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I really like my Alpha Keycaps deskmat. https://alphakeycaps.com/deskmat Cannonkeys manu for deskmats is good, and they have some in stock right now https://cannonkeys.com/
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Oct 20, 2021 20:48
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Unsinkabear posted:Are there any thread favorite desk mats? Maybe some cuteness or color on a budget? also check out the small twitch streamer builders, they usually have discounts and their own sick desk mats being run by the bigger companies. https://twitch.tv/apiarykeyboards is a perfect example, and she had cute deskmats like last week linked.
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Oct 20, 2021 21:11
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LionArcher posted:also check out the small twitch streamer builders, they usually have discounts and their own sick desk mats being run by the bigger companies. Thanks! I didn't see many discounts or any mats of her own, but through her affiliate links I found three cool mats at places I wouldn't have otherwise known to look.
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Oct 20, 2021 22:02
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Unsinkabear posted:Thanks! I didn't see many discounts or any mats of her own, but through her affiliate links I found three cool mats at places I wouldn't have otherwise known to look. Yeah of course! I just found her like a week ago and her and Alex (a slightly bigger keyboard maker) seem very cool and are my keyboard info people now. And considering they are trying to make it their full time gigs I figure helping the little folks as much as possible is a good thing.
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Oct 20, 2021 22:27
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https://kono.store/products/kat-cyberspace Check the link for the BBox 60 build guide from that page. quote:Designed by Ulliam and buger.work, produced by JTK
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Oct 20, 2021 22:34
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 I think these blanks are sweet, though I kept the enter key from the original set. I'm torn because the Carbon keycap font was nice and retro, but I am really enjoying having everything blanked out. This is 3/4 mechanicals in my office blanked now, with a set of blank caps for the last one (for the moment) set to arrive soon. Unsinkabear posted:This is a bummer and I'm so grateful you said something about it before I placed the order. I should have realized, though Turn your bummer into an excuse to have, minimally, two sweet mechanicals. In the above shot the rear Corsair board has MX Reds and I use it for twitch gaming. The Code TKL is MX blue and I use it for composing memoirs and Serious Shitposting.
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Oct 24, 2021 14:01
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Unsinkabear posted:This is a bummer and I'm so grateful you said something about it before I placed the order. I should have realized, though Trip report: I'm kinda finding the 52g bobagums TOO light. I'll be resting my finger on a key and a accidentally trigger it. Loving the 68g tangerines right now, about to go lube and film them
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Oct 24, 2021 15:32
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Hey there keyboard thread, I'm looking for a new keyboard because my current el cheapo one is missing keystrokes when there's multiples going on (usually 3-4, standard WASD control stuff), and I figure I should buy something good for once. I'm not entirely convinced that it need be mechanical, but I'm considering it. It looks like 90% of mechanicals are straight boards though? I do programming for work, and so having at least a little bit of a curve in it goes a long way. I'm currently pondering the Logitech Ergo K860, but would love to hear other suggestions.
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Oct 24, 2021 17:38
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Oct 24, 2021 20:02
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PittTheElder posted:Hey there keyboard thread, I'm looking for a new keyboard because my current el cheapo one is missing keystrokes when there's multiples going on (usually 3-4, standard WASD control stuff), and I figure I should buy something good for once. I'm not entirely convinced that it need be mechanical, but I'm considering it. 90% of the mechanicals discussed in this thread are straight boards (or kits featuring a PCB and case, with bring-your-own switches and keycaps) because this thread is for the top end of keyboards as a hobby. There are plenty of pre-builts from companies like Corsair, GMMK, and Drop that you'll be completely happy with because you may never even realize there's a difference between 62g and 65g of activation force on switches, and hearing a difference in the sound quality of different deadening foams still takes an ear trained to notice the distinction. The issue you've specifically called out (dropped inputs when multiple keys are pressed) is solved with a feature called "N-Key Rollover", which in basic terms means the keyboard will send more than (typically) 6 key-presses simultaneously to the computer. I don't think there are any serious boards out there that don't have it at this point? The main question you have to ask yourself now is if you want a 60%, 65%, 75%, TKL (ten-keyless), 100%, Alice-style, or Ergodox-style board. There are plusses and minuses to each layout, where shifting functionality to layers frees up more space on your desk and reduces the distance your hands & fingers move. After that most pre-builts will offer the choice between a standard selection of linear switches (no bump before the bottom), tactile (bump before the bottom, without attempting to make noise), and clicky (bump before the bottom with a design intended to signal activation with a "click" noise). You can get inexpensive ($10-$20) tester packs with a selection of different kinds of switches so you can figure out what you like. Pre-builts will come with decent, functional keycaps. You can replace them later to color-coordinate or give your board some individual character.
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Oct 24, 2021 20:44
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PittTheElder posted:Hey there keyboard thread, I'm looking for a new keyboard because my current el cheapo one is missing keystrokes when there's multiples going on (usually 3-4, standard WASD control stuff), and I figure I should buy something good for once. I'm not entirely convinced that it need be mechanical, but I'm considering it. To add to what Wizard of the Deep said. If you want to stick with that curved style keyboard, that gets pricey when it comes to mechanicals, and something like the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard does technically exist as a mechanical, but a few minutes of searching, I can't find one for sale. The few that I found: x-bows Ergonomic - No idea if they have it in stock (Amazon is out), nor of the quality. Kinesis Gaming Freestyle RGB - One of the better known makers of the split keyboard setups. Kinesus Freestyle2 - NON Mechanical. But not a bad price either (comparatively). Kinesus Freestyle Pro - Basically the Gaming keyboard, but more office looking. If you want to get a literal feel for a mechanical, so many off the shelf/Amazon ones will be using some form of Blue Switches. These have an audible click and bump when they activate (usually half way down, and some of these can be very loud). That said, you can pick one up in the 20-30 dollar range and see if it is something you might like over a rubber-dome keyboard. I'd even check Walmart, as their store brand (BlackWeb I think it is) makes a cheap blue switch keyboard.
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Oct 24, 2021 22:13
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Cabbages and Kings posted:Turn your bummer into an excuse to have, minimally, two sweet mechanicals. In the above shot the rear Corsair board has MX Reds and I use it for twitch gaming. The Code TKL is MX blue and I use it for composing memoirs and Serious Shitposting. How much money do you think I have?  (That blanked Code TKL is looking fine, though)ijyt posted:Trip report: I'm kinda finding the 52g bobagums TOO light. I'll be resting my finger on a key and a accidentally trigger it. Interesting! I returned the RK84 for a Plum 87, and I must have a weirdly light touch because I just barely notice that issue on 35g topre knockoffs (I did confirm they're not name brand) with the actuation point set to 2mm. Maybe you should try something with those Matias silent tactiles? Their web page for the new edition of the Ergo Pro says the switches actuate at something crazy like 65g, but then the force requirement rapidly drops off in a non-linear fashion after that. Could be tough to press on accident, but easy to hold down? Best of both worlds? PittTheElder posted:
Koskun posted:good Imo try to grab something with either browns (tactile so they keep the bump of the clicky style without making extra noise on purpose) or reds (linear, no bump/click feeling at all, just straight up and down) instead of blues, since the percentage of people who prefer blues seems to be pretty small. Not a lot of love itt, and I saw one Twitch/YouTuber poll her followers and come up a single-digit percentage of clicky-likers. Would be a shame if they got put off based on the extra noise but would have liked one of the other two styles. Also if you're going to throw down for the Kinesis Gaming Freestyle RGB in order to have mechanical and ergo, also look at the Programmable edition of the Matias Ergo Pro I mentioned above. You can get it refurbed for the same price as the Kinesis, and it includes the pieces to adjust the tenting and angle of the keyboard (which is half the reason you want one of these) while the Kinesis charges extra for it. The Matias also has very different switch options than the Kinesis' basic Cherry (the heavy tactile mentioned above and a low-force linear that a programmer friend of mine likes) and a different approach to layout and productivity. It used to be less reliable than the Kinesis so it's not on a lot of "best of" lists, but the new edition supposedly fixes that and puts it back on the same level. Both have tradeoffs so it's a personal call which works best for you, but if you want split and mechanical it unfortunately seems to be a choice between just those two. I've been looking too, and everything else is either a fixed curve that costs almost as much as a full split despite having less customization, or is a zillion dollar mega split board for supernerds. Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 01:51
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about the quest for curved or split boards
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If you have to ask the price, my friend, this isn't the hobby for you. 
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Oct 25, 2021 04:20
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Cabbages and Kings posted:
Where did you get the frosted clear blanks? I'm liking them.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:01
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PittTheElder posted:Hey there keyboard thread, I'm looking for a new keyboard because my current el cheapo one is missing keystrokes when there's multiples going on (usually 3-4, standard WASD control stuff), and I figure I should buy something good for once. I'm not entirely convinced that it need be mechanical, but I'm considering it. What do you mean by curve? Like oldschool Model F curve where there's a scoop from the top to bottom row? or like an Alice style layout where the layout is split and keys are rotated? or do you mean a tilt from the center to the outside of the keyboard? or maybe even a tented alice? https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-kbdfans-mountain-ergo-keyboard-kit or just tented ortho? https://mountainkeyboards.com/collections/lets-tango
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Oct 25, 2021 05:28
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:What do you mean by curve? Like oldschool Model F curve where there's a scoop from the top to bottom row? Big reach here, but I think they probably mean something like the curve in that Logitech Ergo K860 they mentioned. So... that category? Whatever you'd call that Also yes those pudding blanks look dope
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Oct 25, 2021 06:48
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Unsinkabear posted:How much money do you think I have? Oooh I'll see how easy those are to source, thanks for the tip!
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Oct 25, 2021 10:36
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I'm from the Philippines so I had to buy this keyset: Keyreative All Touch - KAT Katha So excited to work with these caps!!!
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Oct 25, 2021 11:52
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Fleedar posted:Where did you get the frosted clear blanks? I'm liking them. amazon, cheeeeeep https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JR7MC47/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Unsinkabear posted:How much money do you think I have? less than you would if you used membrane keyboards, and thanks!! 
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Oct 25, 2021 12:23
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ijyt posted:Oooh I'll see how easy those are to source, thanks for the tip! They're in-stock on their website for $50 per 200. I'd offer to split a box with you, but someone itt said they're not compatible with regular hotswap boards so idk what we'd put them in. I don't have the first clue about soldering PCBs, but if you go down that road maybe you'd have more options? I may order a Matias Ergo Pro later this year when I'm less busy and post a trip report then, but that won't be until mid/late November at the earliest. I picked up a Kinesis off Amazon to test how the split board concept works for me in the meantime. Edit: That said, if anyone does know of something budget-ish we could throw the Matias switches in, please share! Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 18:09
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Any experience with Epomaker boards? I'm trying to find a full size keyboard kit, choices are slim. GK108 looks like it would fit all the needs. Besides GMMK Full Size, are there any other full size hot swappable boards ~$100? Needs to be full sized, not 96%.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:19
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mariooncrack posted:Any experience with Epomaker boards? I'm trying to find a full size keyboard kit, choices are slim. GK108 looks like it would fit all the needs. Besides GMMK Full Size, are there any other full size hot swappable boards ~$100? Needs to be full sized, not 96%. redeyes on the discord took that board and filled the case with pourable silicone, I've got my eye on it too because full size hotswap are super rare. Seems like a good board.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:29
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mariooncrack posted:Any experience with Epomaker boards? I'm trying to find a full size keyboard kit, choices are slim. GK108 looks like it would fit all the needs. Besides GMMK Full Size, are there any other full size hot swappable boards ~$100? Needs to be full sized, not 96%. I don't have one of their keyboards but I have an epomaker standalone numpad that I'm happy with. Very well built. The config software kinda sucks, but it's functional.
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Oct 26, 2021 14:29
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Someone here was looking for a left hand numpad keyboard: https://viendi.co/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwYIrdAy4g (it's expensive, starts at $388)
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Oct 26, 2021 21:07
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Pretty, but I want that Aeboards Aegis he mentions in comparison. Looks like the perfect layout.  Why does everything nice have to be a limited run?!
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Oct 26, 2021 21:23
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interrodactyl posted:Someone here was looking for a left hand numpad keyboard: https://viendi.co/ I was and brought this up forever ago but the GB just got dropped by a couple of vendors "due to importing uncertainties." Chief among them was Cannonkeys who was the lead vendor for this GB. The vendor has been changed to KeebsForAll and price increased to $448 and for that reason I'm out. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 22:07
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