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How are u posted:I don't have any particular reason to distrust Israel's covid data out of hand, but I do want to drill down on this part of your post here. You must not have heard of what Israel was doing to its own Black Jewish population a few years back. Yeah that's why I didn't just put (Jewish) in the parenthesis. I would not trust anything Israel did to any minority. But the COVID booster strategy is the one that their favorite populations get.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I have a choice, I can get either whenever basically, that's why I'm asking. Unfortunately there's not a clear consensus at this point, but early studies show mixing and matching might be better. So if I were in your situation and had either available, I would probably go with moderna.
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Oct 24, 2021 22:58
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Yeah the min-max is a different brand.
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Oct 24, 2021 23:14
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:So the Pfizer booster is probably better because it's a full dose, right? Even at a half dose, the Moderna booster has more mRNA than full-strength Pfizer, fifty micrograms versus thirty. Does this translate to better efficacy? No one knows. We don’t have anything directly comparing those two options. We know that the full-strength Moderna shot as a booster elicits more neutralizing antibodies than either of the other brands, regardless of mix vaccine was originally given to the person. Moderna, for their part, gave reduced-strength boosters to their clinical trial participants. Their rationale for this decision was as follows: quote:
This comes from their presentation to CDC’s advisory community on immunization practices. They demonstrate that these boosters are safe, that they raise the levels of neutralizing antibodies in people who receive them, and that boosters are prudent, because protection granted by the original series does wane with time (see slides 11 & 12).
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Oct 25, 2021 00:01
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Yeah the min-max is a different brand. My impression was the min-max was "ok good you got whatever, now get a moderna shot" e: https://twitter.com/AdrienneLaF/status/1451169947472875524
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Oct 25, 2021 00:11
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I had my second dose of Moderna on 4/27, and I'll be scheduling myself for a Moderna booster on 10/27 because a) it's what's available, b) it's literally at my workplace, and c) I work for a particular retailer that's probably ground zero for unvaccinated customers. If they were only offering Pfizer, I'd probably take that. My wife will schedule hers right at 6mo as well, because she works for the local school district, which has a great uptake among staff, but less so among the local parents and eligible school kids. We're also eagerly awaiting our almost 4yo preschooler being eligible as soon as possible.
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Oct 25, 2021 02:12
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Is there a useful summary of booster effectiveness vis a vis age and gender? I've seen a bunch of twitter chop on booster myocarditis for younger men and want to figure out if that's legit or just smoke and fury from the antivaxxers.
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Oct 25, 2021 02:27
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Flappy Bert posted:Is there a useful summary of booster effectiveness vis a vis age and gender? I've seen a bunch of twitter chop on booster myocarditis for younger men and want to figure out if that's legit or just smoke and fury from the antivaxxers. younger men have a higher risk of myocarditis, yes That was part of the hesitation in approving boosters for younger healthy people, I believe. It's legit, but still very rare (iirc ~100 cases per million third-doses for men aged 18-29 but only a small number required hospitaliztion) I went over some of the data in this post: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3979298&userid=225596&perpage=40&pagenumber=4#post518496747 You can look at the data in detail if ya like. Legit but very rare.
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Oct 25, 2021 03:00
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ChineseBuffet posted:What's the current go-to mask for kids? Trying to maximize protection for a series of visits to the doctor's office my 6-year-old is going to have to make over the next few months. My 4yo has been wearing these daily since August. They come in different colors too. https://behealthyusa.net/collections/small/products/blue-kf94-mask-small-kid-size?variant=36886975709348 They have "3d" style ones available that we tried, but the 2d ones fit her face better. You could start with one of their mix and match packages to try different brands and styles.
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Oct 25, 2021 03:32
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I have a choice, I can get either whenever basically, that's why I'm asking. Wasn’t much statistical difference between the two MRNA boosters if you got Pfizer. I think if you had Moderna getting a third Moderna was best but Pfizer wasn’t much worse. J&J definitely Moderna. I forget for AZ because we don’t have it here but I imagine either MRNA is good.
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Oct 25, 2021 03:43
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I know that it was a blunder for Biden and the CDC to say the vaccinated can go unmasked, but a vaccinated unmasked person is safer to be next to than an unvaccinated masked person, right? And if so, by what degree?
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Oct 25, 2021 04:49
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freebooter posted:I know that it was a blunder for Biden and the CDC to say the vaccinated can go unmasked, but a vaccinated unmasked person is safer to be next to than an unvaccinated masked person, right? And if so, by what degree? I think this depends entirely on the mask.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:14
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Edit: My bad, I completely misread Freebooter’s question. The following assumes that the exposure conditions are equivalent, i.e. both the vaccinated and unvaccinated person are either masked or unmasked. I don’t think that anyone can say with any confidence that the unmasked vaccinated person is safer to be around. Early studies looking at families of healthcare workers found that it cut household attack rate approximately in half. The science brief attached to CDC’s disastrous May guidance cited this Scottish paper. So I think it’s fair to say that a reduction by half is the optimistic view.  Time since vaccination and the coming of the Delta variant maybe both have eroded that. This is a preprint, so enjoy the following declaration. quote:Declarations Platystemon fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 05:17
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poll plane variant posted:I think this depends entirely on the mask. This is true. In the extremes, would anyone disagree that an unvaccinated person with a fitted N95 is safer to be around than a baldfaced vaccinee? Would anyone disagree that an unvaccinated person with a bandana is less safe to be around than a baldfaced vaccinee? An attack rate reduction by half is easily beaten by an N95 and very much not beaten by a bandana.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:25
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I think it's fair to say that if you don't want to catch Covid, you should probably be more concerned about your own vaccination status and your own mask than try to account for whomever you're going to be around. "Keep wearing an N95 rated mask or better if you're going to be sharing air with other people, and get your booster if you're eligible" still seems like pretty solid advice for being able to go to the grocery store or ride a bus with little fear.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:35
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Also staying clean-shaven and considering eye protection are things people don't consider too much. I think there are bearded "respirator crew" goons, which is the most baffling thing.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:39
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Remember, folks, you only have to shave the places where your respirator of choice contacts the face. Many moustaches, goatees, sideburns, even neckbeards can be kept clear of the seal.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:43
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poll plane variant posted:Also staying clean-shaven and considering eye protection are things people don't consider too much. I think there are bearded "respirator crew" goons, which is the most baffling thing. Yeah I just sucked it up and started shaving again because you know what, I'm handsome either way and I'm not going to let vanity be the vector for me getting Covid. Shaving usually knocks about ten years off my appearance too, so I can just be vain in a different way.
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Oct 25, 2021 05:43
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Platystemon posted:Remember, folks, you only have to shave the places where your respirator of choice contacts the face. I am definitely going to need photographic evidence to believe that a neckbeard can have a deep enough plunge to fit a mask over it
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Oct 25, 2021 06:04
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So what is everyone's opinion on the take that by going heavy and hard on the boosters, the west is extending the pandemic by effectively denying/delaying first and second shots to the third world?
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Oct 25, 2021 08:24
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Correct imo
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Oct 25, 2021 08:26
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I don't really see this situation improving much either https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCRTbi7VkAAHYLe?format=png&name=small
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Oct 25, 2021 08:30
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Mebh posted:So what is everyone's opinion on the take that by going heavy and hard on the boosters, the west is extending the pandemic by effectively denying/delaying first and second shots to the third world? There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. If the West wanted to provide vaccines to the rest of the world, they would have built more manufacturing capacity, but it’s not short‐term profitable, so they didn’t.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:43
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poll plane variant posted:I think this depends entirely on the mask. In that case, safe to assume that 99% of the population are wearing a cloth or surgical mask when they have to wear one at all. I think it might actually be a fallacious question in the first place because in a jurisdiction where 90% of people are vaccinated, there's probably a good correlation between people who aren't vaccinated and also don't mask up when they're legally required to.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:45
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Platystemon posted:There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:54
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freebooter posted:In that case, safe to assume that 99% of the population are wearing a cloth or surgical mask when they have to wear one at all. There’s also the issue of what sort of contact is going on. The other party’s mask and the other party’s vaccination protect you in different ways. Cloth masks help a little, but given enough time, indoor environments will be saturated with ærosols, whether or not masks are in use. If those ærosols come from a person infected with SARS‐CoV‐2, you are in trouble. If I had to share a car with one of the two hypothetical persons all day, vaccinated and unmasked, or coth‐masked and unvaccinated, I would choose the vaccinated person. They are somewhat less likely to be emitting hazardous ærosols that day. If the period of contact was much shorter, I would choose the masked person. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 09:09
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Oracle posted:Wasn’t much statistical difference between the two MRNA boosters if you got Pfizer. I think if you had Moderna getting a third Moderna was best but Pfizer wasn’t much worse. J&J definitely Moderna. I forget for AZ because we don’t have it here but I imagine either MRNA is good. AZ - Moderna is looking to be what you want. Pfizer is still excellent but AZ + Moderna booster is an exceptional vaccination strategy
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Oct 25, 2021 09:19
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Platystemon posted:There’s also the issue of what sort of contact is going on. My part of the world has gone from COVID-zero to American-style Constant Personal Risk Assessment in the space of a couple of months and I have to say that if this is what it's like I don't care for it. I'll just accept that we're all going to get COVID at some point and move on with my life. I don't understand how you guys have done this for the past 6 months since your own personal vaccination was possible - it seems exhausting!
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Oct 25, 2021 13:07
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Mebh posted:So what is everyone's opinion on the take that by going heavy and hard on the boosters, the west is extending the pandemic by effectively denying/delaying first and second shots to the third world? I don't think it makes any difference because all evidence indicates rich countries wouldn't be sending their stockpiled vaccines to the global south anyways.
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Oct 25, 2021 14:38
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VitalSigns posted:I don't think it makes any difference because all evidence indicates rich countries wouldn't be sending their stockpiled vaccines to the global south anyways. That makes sense as a personal decision to get a booster (for sure as an individual it's better to get a booster than let it go to waste if that's what's going to happen), but I'm not as comfortable letting governments / countries off the hook. They do have the power to send their vaccines to other countries, and when we're talking about what countries ought to do, I don't think they should get a pass on hoarding vaccines.
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Oct 25, 2021 15:15
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freebooter posted:My part of the world has gone from COVID-zero to American-style Constant Personal Risk Assessment in the space of a couple of months and I have to say that if this is what it's like I don't care for it. I'll just accept that we're all going to get COVID at some point and move on with my life. I don't understand how you guys have done this for the past 6 months since your own personal vaccination was possible - it seems exhausting! It sucks, especially when you have young unvaccinated children at home!
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Oct 25, 2021 15:34
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Mebh posted:So what is everyone's opinion on the take that by going heavy and hard on the boosters, the west is extending the pandemic by effectively denying/delaying first and second shots to the third world? It's a false dilemma as long as the west is busily chucking doses in dumpsters by the million It also depends on the assumption that the number of people getting boosted won't be a fraction of the vaccinated population
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Oct 25, 2021 15:45
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Fallom posted:It's a false dilemma as long as the west is busily chucking doses in dumpsters by the million What makes that dilemma "false"?
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Oct 25, 2021 15:52
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Because we have a huge amount of margin before increased vaccine export policies would practically constrain domestic supply even with boosters
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Oct 25, 2021 15:57
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enki42 posted:That makes sense as a personal decision to get a booster (for sure as an individual it's better to get a booster than let it go to waste if that's what's going to happen), but I'm not as comfortable letting governments / countries off the hook. They do have the power to send their vaccines to other countries, and when we're talking about what countries ought to do, I don't think they should get a pass on hoarding vaccines. They aren't even providing the patents like India and South Africa et al requested.
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Oct 25, 2021 16:04
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freebooter posted:My part of the world has gone from COVID-zero to American-style Constant Personal Risk Assessment in the space of a couple of months and I have to say that if this is what it's like I don't care for it. I'll just accept that we're all going to get COVID at some point and move on with my life. I don't understand how you guys have done this for the past 6 months since your own personal vaccination was possible - it seems exhausting! Well if it makes you feel any better, I'd still do any number of terrible things to be able to do personal risk assessment in a country with your vaccination rates and covid policies. My local grocery store this morning had employees openly ignoring the mask mandate, so that was neat. My loving blue state can't even hit 70% vaxxed, we're sitting at 62% fully vaxxed and 66% with at least one shot.
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Oct 25, 2021 17:50
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The only way out is to no longer care. The vast majority of people are at this point.
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Oct 25, 2021 18:19
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Gio posted:The only way out is to no longer care. The vast majority of people are at this point. Yeah, and hope that I can avoid any more brushes with hospitalization in the foreseeable future.
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Oct 25, 2021 18:44
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freebooter posted:My part of the world has gone from COVID-zero to American-style Constant Personal Risk Assessment in the space of a couple of months and I have to say that if this is what it's like I don't care for it. I'll just accept that we're all going to get COVID at some point and move on with my life. I don't understand how you guys have done this for the past 6 months since your own personal vaccination was possible - it seems exhausting! I mean, I responded to that scenario as best I could, but my real answer is to wear an N95 or better and stop caring what everyone else is doing. I won’t be eating in public for the foreseeable future and that’s that.
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People really don't get how bad covid has run in the US. People talk about how bad other countries are doing and most of them at a fraction of what the good states in the US are at.
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