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Barudak posted:The games that make me most uncomfortable to play the bad guy is any game about Vietnam where you play as an American We do need more games where you play as Viet Cong.
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veni veni veni posted:Oh man, it's too bad none of these developers hired you to be an ideas guy for their games. The solution was so simple all along. But he’s right. Look at the first Dishonored. Using good art and level design you always knew what was something important or interactable. And that was in huge part due to not using certain graphical decisions in the games design. Despite being set in a foggy city where everything is a shade of grey, everything has contrast to everything else in both texture and shape. And the game did not obscure everything with glare and glow. Contrast to Witcher 3 where everything is the same color and texture as everything else. And the sun is always shining directly into your eyes even if you’re facing away from it. The reason “detective vision” is so popular these days is that graphics in AAA stuff is painful to look at. I like to use the term “Vaseline graphics” because your screen looks like it has been smeared with it. Everything is brown, everything is reflecting the sun. Everything is blurry. Hell I think half the reason retro sprite art has become so popular is that you can actually see what’s happening on screen.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:23
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Lmao, replying with complete sincerity to a vvv shitpost
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FoolyCharged posted:WWII in particular. Crimes against humanity were the norm for everyone involved. Bombing industrial centers full of unarmed people? Strategic planning to reduce enemy morale and weapons manufacturing. Nanking... sigh. If you know about it, you know. If you don't...maybe you should just leave it that way.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:33
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If your game is 1st person and 3D, you'd better go for photorealism and maximum detail, unless you are a coward If you don't want to go that route and make the visuals more abstract and simplistic, make the whole concept of the game more abstract, like a top down tile based 2D game or whatnot. This is dogma.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:53
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steinrokkan posted:If your game is 1st person and 3D, you'd better go for photorealism and maximum detail, unless you are a coward gently caress that. More games like Dishonored please, with actual art style.
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Oct 25, 2021 08:57
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steinrokkan posted:If your game is 1st person and 3D, you'd better go for photorealism and maximum detail, unless you are a coward every photorealistic game looks like poo poo and they spend 10x more on the art budget to make it look like that specific flavor of poo poo, hiring people to work lovely gamedev artist jobs designing hd dirt textures for 12 hours per day RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 08:58
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:every photorealistic game looks like poo poo pixel games are also 99% derivative ugly garbage too, there's a fine balance
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Oct 25, 2021 09:04
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pixel isn't even one of the options for a 3d game's artstyle unless you use a lovely filter or something
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Oct 25, 2021 09:07
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itry posted:gently caress that. More games like Dishonored please, with actual art style. Dishonored looks like barf tho
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Oct 25, 2021 09:08
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fridge corn posted:Dishonored looks like barf tho That's a weird way to spell art
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Oct 25, 2021 09:13
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fridge corn posted:Dishonored looks like barf tho I'm sure if you tried it you'd fall in love for a week like you did with deathloop and you wouldn't even have to pay £70 for the privilege 
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Oct 25, 2021 09:16
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I loved deathloop, I platinumed that with 40 hours on the file. What a rad game.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:17
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Dishonored looks p good imo, but championing it as some gold standard of environmental communication, when it's literally all brown then the game does the thing where it highlights everything in yellow that you can actually pick up lmao.Caesar Saladin posted:I loved deathloop, I platinumed that with 40 hours on the file. What a rad game. This would only qualify as controversial on the SA forums where people hate everything.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:20
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Arkane are great at making games where you want to turn the HUD off
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Oct 25, 2021 09:22
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm sure if you tried it you'd fall in love for a week like you did with deathloop and you wouldn't even have to pay £70 for the privilege I paid £10 for dishonored 2 and I felt that was appropriate for the experience it provided
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Oct 25, 2021 09:28
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Arkane are great at making games where you want to turn the HUD off Yeah. Only way to play Dishonored 1/2 is with as much of the HUD turned off as you can deal with. fridge corn posted:I paid £10 for dishonored 2 and I felt that was appropriate for the experience it provided The first one with its expansion (2 DLC's) is worth the $8 or w/e it costs these days on sale. Worth it at full price too, but w/e. D2 is better mechanically, but I prefered D1 in most other way. itry fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 09:28
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Arkane are great at making games where you want to turn it off
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Oct 25, 2021 09:28
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Arkane are great at making games where you want to turn the HUD off But then you can't see anything. Which is why it's funny. They were saying more games should have visual design that communicates stuff without HUD assistance like dishonored The game just highlights everything in yellow how is that different from detective vision or whatever? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnMcK-1dclE&t=883s
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Oct 25, 2021 09:32
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itry posted:Yeah. Only way to play Dishonored 1/2 is with as much of the HUD turned off as you can deal with. Agreed, up to and including the game process itself
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Oct 25, 2021 09:33
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SMH at these bad takes on Dishonored.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:35
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veni veni veni posted:But then you can't see anything. Which is why it's funny. You'll miss more pickups like money and so on but nothing that's a big deal, and heck first time thorough Dishonored i probably switched objective markers back on if i was really stuck but then i just loved breathing in those worlds and didn't want to rush through.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:35
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itry posted:SMH at these bad takes on Dishonored. Yeah its a weird game to hate on in my eyes, its not prefect but it does a lot incredibly well and it drips with atmosphere, its the sort of game you would play for 20 minutes and realise its not for you or just be fully invested in.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:38
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JollyBoyJohn posted:You'll miss more pickups like money and so on but nothing that's a big deal, and heck first time thorough Dishonored i probably switched objective markers back on if i was really stuck but then i just loved breathing in those worlds and didn't want to rush through. Yeah but that's irrelevant because their whole point was that Dishonored communicates environmental interaction without HUD, which it doesn't actually do. It's just rose colored glasses. if you want to turn the HUD off in Dishonored it's a preference. it's not that the game needed it less than any other game in the first place. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 09:44
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Dishonored was just mediocre imo The world didn't make a lot of sense to me but I liked parts of it. The combat wasn't great but I liked skulking around. It got way too easy with certain tools though and with no challenge the game falls pretty flat
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Oct 25, 2021 09:57
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah but that's irrelevant because their whole point was that Dishonored communicates environmental interaction without HUD, which it doesn't actually do. It's just rose colored glasses. if you want to turn the HUD off in Dishonored it's a preference. it's not that the game needed it less than any other game in the first place. I don't know about interactables, but the game's level design (combined with your ability to just scale buildings and look at your surroundings) meant that you didn't actually need any waypoints to know where you were supposed to go. So when I think about the HUD, I mostly think about stuff like waypoints or the "you're crouching now" silhouette. Or always on health/mana bars.
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Oct 25, 2021 10:01
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Even as a fan of the series I'll admit Dishonored has flaws - the combat, the black/white morality system but the world design was so incredible it made up for any shortcomings in mechanics etc
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Oct 25, 2021 10:06
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Dishonored was enough of that sort of game for me basically forever. I played three or so levels of the sequel and was like "I've played this already" Combat sandboxes aren't really interesting to me anymore
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Oct 25, 2021 10:08
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If more games were as made with the care and consideration that Dishonoured gets, the entire game industry would be better off. I love that type of game and I really can't imagine how you guys are calling it mediocre, but hey I guess if you've got no patience and a babybrain i understand.
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Oct 25, 2021 10:16
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lmao medicore is such a damning word when it comes to videogames: talk about a back handed compliment, just call it bad if you didn't like it I'm trying to think of a videogame that I felt was describable as "mediocre" and i just can't because either games are "good" and i'll play them or they are "bad" and I'll stop after 20 minutes because I'm bored out my skull eg: Assassins Creed Odyssey, literally one of the most overblown, boring, self serious videogames I have ever played its probably good form to use medicore in that instance because while there were clearly efforts put into the presentation they kinda forgot to put a fun game in
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Oct 25, 2021 10:21
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Yeah Dishonored *burp* nobody cares about brexit enough to play a game about it
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Vic posted:Yeah Dishonored *burp* nobody cares about brexit enough to play a game about it That's actually Sir, You Are Being Hunted. Edit: Wait, no. I tell a lie. It's We Happy Few. itry fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 11:46
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Caesar Saladin posted:pixel games are also 99% derivative ugly garbage too, there's a fine balance yeah but pixel games have an install size of 500mb instead of 500gb
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Oct 25, 2021 13:40
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Morrowind isn't accessible. Oblivion sucks. Skyrim sucks.
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Oct 25, 2021 14:02
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SearchInward posted:Morrowind isn't accessible.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_533_uAzrFc
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Oct 25, 2021 14:06
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itry posted:That's actually Sir, You Are Being Hunted. This game is cool
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Oct 25, 2021 14:28
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JollyBoyJohn posted:lmao medicore is such a damning word when it comes to videogames: talk about a back handed compliment, just call it bad if you didn't like it It isn't mediocre but I've found that I really don't have the drive to complete games with long playtimes anymore. I happily sunk fifty hours into old games but now I can't imagine putting in more than 20, even on games that I love.
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Oct 25, 2021 14:56
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The peak of video game writing was the Soviet campaign for Red Alert 2.
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Oct 25, 2021 15:19
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I dno man, have you considered that RA3 had Tim Curry in it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM
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Serephina posted:I dno man, have you considered that RA3 had Tim Curry in it? He could maybe be best performance ever in a video game but to me the plot of 2 was more entertaining and very original for the time. Red Alert 1 had the super generic and almost non-existent plot so it was a pleasant surprise to get what we did in number 2.
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