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Gynovore posted:I think the previous dude meant a card that removed the card type 'creature', not creature subtypes. sorta  it loses all other types if it has any
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Has a card ever removed mana cost?
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Oct 27, 2021 04:27
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dragon enthusiast posted:Has a card ever removed mana cost? There are many cards that make other cards cost fewer generic to cost, and possibly more that make cards cost fewer colored mana.
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Oct 27, 2021 04:49
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I Before E posted:There are many cards that make other cards cost fewer generic to cost, and possibly more that make cards cost fewer colored mana. yeah 
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Oct 27, 2021 07:11
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The new mechanic removes prayer from schools.
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Oct 27, 2021 07:19
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Lone Goat posted:yeah Are there any cards besides Ragemonger and Edgewalker that reduce colored mana cost? I know there's stuff like Rooftop Storm that gives spells an alternate cost. I was wondering about actual colored mana reduction. dragon enthusiast posted:Has a card ever removed mana cost?
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Oct 27, 2021 11:28
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LennyBriscoCountyJr posted:Are there any cards besides Ragemonger and Edgewalker that reduce colored mana cost? I know there's stuff like Rooftop Storm that gives spells an alternate cost. I was wondering about actual colored mana reduction. Bard Class, Morophon
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Oct 27, 2021 11:36
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The Human Crouton posted:The new mechanic removes prayer from schools. A spiritual successor to Decide? I thought school choice would put god back in the classroom.
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Oct 27, 2021 13:01
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If the thread just became "is there a card that...?" and then someone posts a card that does, well frankly I'd be really pleased. Loving this.
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Oct 27, 2021 13:56
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Perry Mason Jar posted:If the thread just became "is there a card that...?" and then someone posts a card that does, well frankly I'd be really pleased. Loving this. I like it too since I missed almost 20 years of expansions
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Oct 27, 2021 14:03
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I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. Considering I can play standard on Arena and don't care much about deck power level for paper, what's my best bet for having a good time learning the paper game with someone? Should I just buy a bunch of basic lands and a bulk box of cards and we just build a couple of decks from that? Should I buy some packs and see what we end up with?
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Abisteen posted:I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. There's a few options I can think of: - As you mentioned, a bulk box could be a good start, though there might not necessarily be synergy between any of the cards to build an interesting deck - Not sure if this is still a thing (I think it is?), but Wizards gives out intro packs to LGS's to give out for free to new players who ask - Jump Start also exists in paper; you each buy two packs, and that's your deck. Lands are included in this. These can be pricey though since there were some print issues and there were some high-value cards in there. - With the pandemic being a thing stores should still have some stock of prerelease kits- they cost around $30-$40 and have 6 Draft packs to play Sealed. You'll also need to buy lands for this. - If you want to take the next step and start playing with other people, Prerelease Events are a blast and most people at FNM Drafts are generally super casual and friendly to new players
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Oct 27, 2021 14:33
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Abisteen posted:I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. Basics + bulk is probably cheapest, but may not result in the most fun experience, even as far as kitchen table Magic goes. Wizards put out "deckbuilder toolkits" for a while that included some precon starter decks plus some random boosters, though those seem to be discontinued now. Looks like you can still find them for about $30 each. They now sell "Arena starter kits" that basically look about the same but smaller, cheaper, and probably give you some Arena codes for free goodies. They also make (made?) "planeswalker decks," which are just precons featuring a particular planeswalker. I'm pretty sure these are what were included in the deckbuilder toolkits. So I don't know if there's a "best" way to get someone into learning and playing paper magic, but you certainly have a lot of options.
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Abisteen posted:I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. isn't Jumpstart exactly what you need?
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Abisteen posted:I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. I'd do a couple of Starter Decks and this: https://www.cardkingdom.com/catalog/shop/battle-decks <-- Absolutely this. Definitely do the next Prerelease, they're an absolute blast.
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off top of head things that I can’t remember being removed: -emblems (I don’t think it’s this) -legendary supertype (it might be this) -card name, artist, collector number, expansion symbol, flavor text (these are all silver border only) -certain keyword abilities (there are cards that remove all abilities but I think that’s distinct from cards like the Archetype cycle) (I actually think it’s this) Like it could be “cards in graveyards lose flashback” or “creatures you control lose Decayed”
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:-legendary supertype (it might be this) 
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TipTow posted:They also make (made?) "planeswalker decks," which are just precons featuring a particular planeswalker. I'm pretty sure these are what were included in the deckbuilder toolkits. They stopped making planeswalker decks in favor of commander precons, which you can also find for pretty cheap if you grab some from previous sets since, with the exception of any that have particularly valuable cards, they seem to get discounted when the new ones come out.
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Thanks for the excellent recommendations everyone. I decided to go with four jumpstart packs since she said she liked the idea of opening things and not knowing anything about what she would get. Maybe a live event at one of the local stores is in my future but I don't feel comfortable doing that just yet with how bad our local covid cases have been recently.
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E; misunderstood
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Oct 27, 2021 16:12
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Looking for playmats on Amazon and lol https://www.amazon.com/HiddenSuppli...HET2SR6DB2M5GKS 
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how am I supposed to tell who is making out, their faces are covered... Also if you're looking for cool mats I would recommend https://www.inkedgaming.com/, really high quality and you can submit your own artwork. fadam fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Abisteen posted:I learned Magic via Arena and have never played paper. My girlfriend is interested in trying the game and I think it would be fun to play some kitchen table magic with her since she doesn't play games on PC very much. There's plenty of box sets you can buy for two or more players. Like Gamenight which includes 5 unique single colored decks. Nicol Bolas Arch Enemey which includes 4 decks plus the arch enemy bonus game mode. Or any of the cheaper duel decks. The professor sells those 10 dollar cheap common/uncommon theme decks he hocks on his videos. These are all good basic-level magic and intentionally not too complicated. Your LGS should have been given a number of free trainer decks for exactly cases like this. IIRC it's two 30 card decks to learn that you can then shuffle together for one deck when she's ready to take that next step. I would hold off on deck building until after she learns how to play.
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Oh yeah definitely ask your LGS for some of those training decks, they're free.
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Abisteen posted:Thanks for the excellent recommendations everyone. I decided to go with four jumpstart packs since she said she liked the idea of opening things and not knowing anything about what she would get. Cool! Worth noting that the prerelease kits will also offer that opening packs without knowing what you'll get; I think that would be a good next step after Jumpstart since you'll be able to play sealed and then start brewing decks and trading. Jumpstart's also good to have on hand since you can break up the decks back into their individual packs afterwards and try new combinations.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Oh yeah definitely ask your LGS for some of those training decks, they're free. They stopped making welcome decks and now they just give out these: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Innistrad:_Midnight_Hunt/Welcome_booster
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Sinteres posted:They stopped making welcome decks and now they just give out these: Well that sucks what the gently caress
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Here's the reason they gave: "When we surveyed our engages players, only 4.7% started with a Welcome Deck," explains WotC in-store play specialist Jacob Nourigat. "Welcome Decks, and all new player-focused promo items we've used for the past few years, try to make learning Magic as simple as possible. But players don't play Magic because it's simple. They like the challenge." IMO the welcome booster having an Arena code suggests to me that the real reason might be as much about steering new players there as anything though.
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Just saw that they aren't doing coverage for SCGCON which sucks.
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Oh WOTC so wise  Almost no one knew they existed! One comic book shop (not LGS but sold MTG stuff) had no idea what it was at all. Another LGS had them but only when expressly asked. I only learned about them because of people here and, yeah, I'm in the 4.7% fuckas. People still want their introduction to Magic to be simple, come on!
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Perry Mason Jar posted:People still want their introduction to Magic to be simple, come on! Very this. My buddy got Unsactioned because he thought it would be a simple experience like Gamenight, I had to explain basically every card we played.
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Abisteen posted:Thanks for the excellent recommendations everyone. I decided to go with four jumpstart packs since she said she liked the idea of opening things and not knowing anything about what she would get. Honestly if she's never played before I would have her go through the Arena tutorial first just to get the basics down. I recently taught somebody the game with just my paper cards and really do wish I had quickly run them through the Arena tutorial first.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Looking for playmats on Amazon and lol Lmao
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Sinteres posted:Here's the reason they gave: "When we surveyed our engages players, only 4.7% started with a Welcome Deck," explains WotC in-store play specialist Jacob Nourigat. "Welcome Decks, and all new player-focused promo items we've used for the past few years, try to make learning Magic as simple as possible. But players don't play Magic because it's simple. They like the challenge." I got one of these for like 10 bucks. It comes with an Arena code that can be redeemed twice so that's neat too. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/2021_Arena_Starter_Kit
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GigaPeon posted:I got one of these for like 10 bucks. It comes with an Arena code that can be redeemed twice so that's neat too. The difference is that the welcome decks were free, you just had to ask for them at a LGS. I've heard good things about the starter kit for  though, yeah.
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Sinteres posted:The difference is that the welcome decks were free, you just had to ask for them at a LGS. I've heard good things about the starter kit for Are those those lil boxes that have two 30 card decks? I got a handful of those at a music fest. The cards seemed pretty vanilla, but I'm sure they're good for learning the basic rules.
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GigaPeon posted:Are those those lil boxes that have two 30 card decks? I got a handful of those at a music fest. The cards seemed pretty vanilla, but I'm sure they're good for learning the basic rules. Yeah, the idea is that they have zero value though, so owners won’t be tempted to sell them on the secondary market instead of giving them away. We got a few of them a while back when I was teaching my wife to play. Used them as the foundation of some decks built up with draft chaff.
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GigaPeon posted:Are those those lil boxes that have two 30 card decks? I got a handful of those at a music fest. The cards seemed pretty vanilla, but I'm sure they're good for learning the basic rules. I think so But also that was the point, they were for learning the game and had nothing better than a Shivan dragon so people wouldn't take more than one
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Devor posted:Yeah, the idea is that they have zero value though, so owners won’t be tempted to sell them on the secondary market instead of giving them away. We got a few of them a while back when I was teaching my wife to play. Used them as the foundation of some decks built up with draft chaff. Yeah I tried to teach a lady friend the game using the Arena pack and there are some wordy cards in there. Maybe I should have started with the Welcome ones.
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LennyBriscoCountyJr posted:Are there any cards besides Ragemonger and Edgewalker that reduce colored mana cost? I know there's stuff like Rooftop Storm that gives spells an alternate cost. I was wondering about actual colored mana reduction. Khalni Hydra, which, IIRC, is the only card to lack the 'this only reduces the amount of colored mana you have to pay' text, and therefore in conjunction with a cost increasing effect, is the only way to invoke rule 118.7c (which states excess colored mana reduction reduces the generic cost). E: now Demilich too. Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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