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Goodell just said Snyder has been adequately punished and he’s probably not going to do anything about Watson. The NFL is a terrible organization and we should all feel bad for watching it.
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Yes the owners are fucks, but the content is so fun. I choose to support the good players like, checks note, Tom Brady.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 01:30 |
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The NFL is a joke.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 01:33 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:this is just gonna make them more popular in texas Sup former Bucs fan who drifted away because of Jameis buddy?
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 01:38 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Goodell just said Snyder has been adequately punished and he’s probably not going to do anything about Watson. The NFL is a terrible organization and we should all feel bad for watching it. Owners choose not to punish themselves further. News at 11.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 03:23 |
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The point is Goodell can put whomever he wants on the list for whatever reason he wants, real or trumped up. Is that what the CBA says? that doesn't seem like it could possibly be the case
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 03:53 |
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From what reporters keep saying Goodell "can't" invoke the conduct detrimental part because Watson hasn't even been charged which seems consistent. The league would likely get a united front (for once) from the players if he suspended Watson without him at least going to criminal trial. Uncomfortable reality of labor rights and that players who have spoken up on the record are firmly in the "these bitches are lying" camp. Thinking about this reminded me of when Michael Bennett got charged with totally assaulting a paraplegic security worker at the super bowl. He wasn't suspended either.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 04:30 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Is that what the CBA says? that doesn't seem like it could possibly be the case I have a feeling that even if it is the case, if he does put a player who hasn't even been charged with anything on it, it will not be the case in the next CBA
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 04:40 |
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fast cars loose anus posted:I have a feeling that even if it is the case, if he does put a player who hasn't even been charged with anything on it, it will not be the case in the next CBA Different situation but Kareem Hunt was never charged with a crime but was still placed on the list. So the apparent standard isn’t that you need to be charged with a crime, it’s that you need to make sure there aren’t any cameras around when you sexually or physically assault women.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 04:43 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Different situation but Kareem Hunt was never charged with a crime but was still placed on the list. So the apparent standard isn’t that you need to be charged with a crime, it’s that you need to make sure there aren’t any cameras around when you sexually or physically assault women. Forgot about Hunt. Yeah you've likely nailed it.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 04:45 |
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Or to put it another way "don't make it COMPLETELY untenable for anyone to play you; leave us an out no matter how ridiculous"
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 05:51 |
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Goodell is just attempting to save face and pass the buck onto the police cause they are an easy target for ridicule in current times. Saying they can't do anything without any cooperation from them is an easy out and makes it look like the police are the ones not taking the assaults seriously instead of him Of course that's all a load of bullshit but some people may buy it. He can put people on the exempt list whenever he wants to Nodoze fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Oct 27, 2021 |
# ? Oct 27, 2021 05:56 |
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come on dolphins don't you want to save your season
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 06:11 |
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Didn't zeke get suspended without any charges, for an incident in the past? It was 100% the police refusing to do anything to him back then, too. Maybe I've got the details wrong here.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 07:31 |
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Shinjobi posted:Didn't zeke get suspended without any charges, for an incident in the past? It was 100% the police refusing to do anything to him back then, too. I had forgotten how ridiculously drawn out this was. quote:On August 11, 2017, the NFL suspended Elliott for the first six games of the 2017 season for violating the personal conduct policy. His suspension stemmed from accusations of domestic violence against his ex-girlfriend on five occasions in 2016. NFL officials conducted a year-long investigation into the allegations, and though Elliott was never criminally charged, decided to suspend him...Although the suspension was upheld on September 6 by a league-appointed arbitrator, on September 8, a federal judge granted a request for injunction by the NFL Players Association (NFLPA), putting the suspension on hold indefinitely. Then he went to hang out in Mexico for a while, I think he might have been injured at the time and that's why he stopped fighting and figured it was a good time to serve the suspension? There was also the St Patrick's day thing where he dragged a woman's shirt down that went into this whole ordeal but he claims she was cool with it. I mean in the end there were no criminal charges so you're right about that part. The part with his ex is he barely bothered to deny and tried to justify on a 'she's crazy' thing if I remember right.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 07:53 |
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Grittybeard posted:I had forgotten how ridiculously drawn out this was. A big part of why it got that bad was because Jerry started an absolute shitstorm over this and fought it like crazy. This was the season after the Cowboys went 13-3 and had the #1 seed in the NFC and he thought this was the year they were gonna take the next step and possibly get to the Superbowl and Zeke was integral to that. He drat near started a civil war among the owners, made plans to remove Goodell from power and install a new commissioner, and only finally backed off after a group headed by the Maras, Rooneys, Krafts and other long time owners (if I remember right) threatened to force him to sell. If someone like Tepper traded for Watson and he promptly got exempt listed I can only imagine the fit he'd throw and Goodell probably doesn't want a repeat of the Jerruh situation, so that's probably why he's taking his time and waiting for criminal charges to be filed this time.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 08:38 |
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Edit: wrong thread.
Android Apocalypse fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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roger: look there's only 26 accused rape victims, really there's not reasonable evidence to suspend this guy *tom brady throws away a phone* THIS MAN DESERVES DEATH
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 11:52 |
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Raku posted:roger: look there's only 26 accused rape victims, really there's not reasonable evidence to suspend this guy The league was happy to take Brady to court so they could have Goodells authority on record by a Judge lol. But nope can't do anything here
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 12:40 |
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Strange that Ezekiel Elliott's star power and team owner going to bat for him didnt defuse his investigation. Those circumstances seem pretty similar to Watson's, with Watson having the facially more aggravated case (I dont know what Zeke is alleged to have done.)
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:03 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Strange that Ezekiel Elliott's star power and team owner going to bat for him didnt defuse his investigation. Those circumstances seem pretty similar to Watson's, with Watson having the facially more aggravated case (I dont know what Zeke is alleged to have done.) Goodell is consistent only in that he is wildly inconsistent with how he handles everything. He is more concerned with appearances than applying any type of standard policy to how the NFL handles players who have potentially committed a crime.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:09 |
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Even then he could give Watson a small suspension for appearances and he could probably ride it our easily Hell there was no reason not to suspend him for the first half of the year as everyone knew what was happening. It’s been a bit baffling
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:13 |
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The only thing I could think for Goodell not suspending Watson or putting him on the exempt list was a favor to the Texans, as his trade value would've been completely shot.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:29 |
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I mean his trade value has already been completely shot. If it wasn't for all the assault/rape/whatever he is being investigated for then he would have already been traded as teams would have sold their right arms to get a qb of his caliber.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:32 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:The only thing I could think for Goodell not suspending Watson or putting him on the exempt list was a favor to the Texans, as his trade value would've been completely shot. If they suspended him thid year and called the matter resolved I would thinkt that would boost his value
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 15:46 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:If they suspended him thid year and called the matter resolved I would thinkt that would boost his value The #1 thing every report mentions that's holding this back is uncertainty. I think you're right. The handling of this is just poor, I don't think it's as calculated as people think.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 16:00 |
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Either the panthers are really out or they’re just negotiating through person. https://twitter.com/theathletic/status/1453366001073115136?s=21
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 16:17 |
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Goodell putting out statements about how PROUD they are that they're too smart to be fooled by those lying bitches, can't do anything without ALL the information is loving gross as hell. Basically suggested that they believe there MUST be information out there that would prove these women to be scheming liarsYOLOsubmarine posted:Different situation but Kareem Hunt was never charged with a crime but was still placed on the list. So the apparent standard isn’t that you need to be charged with a crime, it’s that you need to make sure there aren’t any cameras around when you sexually or physically assault women. Then Tyreek never made it onto the list either? And now not Watson? Wow, what a loving system. Kareem Hunt is a loving SAINT compared to these dudes. Like this should be easy poo poo to deal with. Shut him the gently caress down now for the entire year AT LEAST is not only the moral thing to do but it would definitely seem to be the smartest thing for the NFL. He's not playing anyways and it would make them look like they even try to give a poo poo about women. But nope Play fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Play posted:Wow, what a loving system. Kareem Hunt is a loving SAINT compared to these dudes. Personally I don't think we should make these types of comparisons
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 16:42 |
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Aaron Hernandez did NOTHING wrong
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:04 |
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Kalli posted:Aaron Hernandez did NOTHING wrong Of course the NFL had no problem letting a gay player be punished for things guys like Ben or Watson would have gotten away with
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:40 |
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Kalli posted:Aaron Hernandez did NOTHING wrong He was framed and took the fall for the real killer of Odin Lloyd: Tom Br*dy
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:42 |
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Intruder posted:Personally I don't think we should make these types of comparisons Some crimes are worse than others, that shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. And I'll freely admit that what Deshaun Watson did makes me a lot more angry and disgusted than what Hunt did, even though they are both reprehensible. Like whoever figured that out posted, the only difference besides the severity was the presence of a camera.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:48 |
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Intruder posted:Personally I don't think we should make these types of comparisons Ive missed his over the top reactions to things
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:51 |
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Play posted:Some crimes are worse than others, that shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. And I'll freely admit that what Deshaun Watson did makes me a lot more angry and disgusted than what Hunt did, even though they are both reprehensible. Oh thank god you were willing to admit that
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:51 |
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Play posted:Some crimes are worse than others, that shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. And I'll freely admit that what Deshaun Watson did makes me a lot more angry and disgusted than what Hunt did, even though they are both reprehensible. I don't like any line of conversation that leads to "This makes the guy who knocked a woman out look like a saint" Just say yeah Deshaun is a giant piece of poo poo who should be punished even more severely than Hunt rather than oh man this makes Hunt look good in comparison
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 17:54 |
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Play is actually a machine learning posting algorithm, so cut him some slack he needs more datasets.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 18:15 |
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Play is actually a machine learning posting algorithm, so cut him some slack he needs more datasets. It's true he just learned that horrible ppl committ sex assaults even if they aren't incels. You've got to let the OS go from Jelly Bean to Eclair.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 19:18 |
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Hes brave enough to admit it's him who hates rapists the most and y'all treat him like this? For shame.
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# ? Oct 27, 2021 19:27 |
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I figured the reason Watson was not on the exempt list or suspended was because they wanted to ignore it as long as possible. Just pretend this guy doesn't exist until the situation is resolved by settlement, prosecution, or whatever. Then the Texans season opener the announcers talked about Watson for half the drat game I guess they misread the memo.
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