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Y'know, I've gotten into re-watching old La Parka matches, and I saw this one versus Dean Malenko in 1997, and all the announcers do is talk about Hulk Hogan and I realize that none of his matches at this time were as interesting as what was going on in the ring here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez1G5x7g5oA
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WCW didn't waste money on Buffer. They spent money on Buffer, then wasted him.
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I liked Buffer when I was a kid watching WCW, but I can't imagine many adults were buying the PPV's to hear his "Ready to Rumble" bit for the 1000th time. Also:MrBling posted:David Penzer was perfectly fine, but he was no Gary Michael Cappetta. Honestly, I'd take it a step further, I always thought Penzer was an extremely weak and boring announcer. Big voice but he just sounded like a lullaby somehow. If they still had Cappetta, or really anyone more interesting than Penzer, they wouldn't have needed to bring in Buffer to hype up a main event.
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Ok so after promising it a couple of weeks ago tonight will actually been Havoc 97! Dark at 7, Havoc at 8 http://psp-tv.com/r/badmoviesworsewrestling
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Gary Michael Cappetta speaks entirely in capital letters and I liked him. His intro for WarGames at WrestleWar ‘92 was god tier. THE MATCH BEYOND BEGINS
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rujasu posted:I liked Buffer when I was a kid watching WCW, but I can't imagine many adults were buying the PPV's to hear his "Ready to Rumble" bit for the 1000th time. I think it's important to remember that it wasn't just PPVs. Buffer was on most Nitros for a while there, sometimes multiple times per night, so it's even dumber. Honestly, if they had just used him for PPVs it wouldn't have been a bad idea at all.
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Super Dan posted:I think it's important to remember that it wasn't just PPVs. Buffer was on most Nitros for a while there, sometimes multiple times per night, so it's even dumber. Honestly, if they had just used him for PPVs it wouldn't have been a bad idea at all. Part of the appeal of Nitro is it was presented as a big rear end deal. The only time it didn't really work is when there was no main event and he'd come out to announce a match at like 9:20 because the main event was an angle. Also Disco Inferno vs Jackie is so loving bad and deserved to win WMOTY 1997 over Age in a Cage.
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There will never be another backstage interviewer like Mean Gene
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Oct 27, 2021 18:43
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Why's there an EDM track playing? Does this happen wherever Scott Norton goes?
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FUCKFACE MORON posted:There will never be another backstage interviewer like Mean Gene
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FUCKFACE MORON posted:There will never be another backstage interviewer like Mean Gene Nobody's even close.
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On top of that WWE doesn't even allow interviewers to do anything other then ask a question or two and then stand there staring blankly like a loving mannequin.
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Mean Gene didn't even really have to do a whole lot to be a great interviewer. Know the angle, know the characters, and guide the conversation to its obvious conclusion. He had a great voice, but other than that, it's not like it's hard to tell a story about two guys who don't like each other getting into a fight.
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Did they ever have someone attack Mean Gene? I feel that went a long way in cementing his status as a respected interviewer. The only thing I can think of is when Papa Shango made him leak black poo poo from his shirt cuff.
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Animal-Mother posted:Mean Gene didn't even really have to do a whole lot to be a great interviewer. Know the angle, know the characters, and guide the conversation to its obvious conclusion. He had a great voice, but other than that, it's not like it's hard to tell a story about two guys who don't like each other getting into a fight. The art of the backstage barker/interviewer is really that Gene was the one to put a true air of professionalism and seriousness under the whole thing. Spencer Hall puts it a ton better than I can: quote:Okerlund played the role of The Serious Adult in the Room on WWE and WCW’s biggest shows. He was the one who asked the questions, demanded answers, and served as the pivot for every beef, rivalry, feud, and outright war between the giants and bit players of wrestling. He hectored wrestlers like an investigative reporter. He was pushy, ornery, sometimes outright hostile to his subjects, playing up the drama while never forgetting to mention that the show was at the National Guard Armory in Nashville this coming Saturday, and that tickets were still available — but selling fast.
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Oct 29, 2021 15:48
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Animal-Mother posted:Mean Gene didn't even really have to do a whole lot to be a great interviewer. Know the angle, know the characters, and guide the conversation to its obvious conclusion. He had a great voice, but other than that, it's not like it's hard to tell a story about two guys who don't like each other getting into a fight. He was allowed to have a personality, be funny, make jokes, interact with the wrestlers naturally, etc. The interviewers now may as well be an Alexa device asking the questions. They're not allowed to stand out or take any shine away from the wrestlers. It's just a product of Vince hyper-controlling everything and not letting people just act like normal people with human emotions and motivations. It's all got to be so scripted and watered down and homogenized. Gene stands out because he was a character for a lot of years in WWE, then rode out his career in WCW where he still got to do the same shtick as WWE moved more into the "interviewers are just nameless, faceless fodder" era.
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Oct 29, 2021 16:30
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At the very least Gene would say something like "Vince/Gorilla/Tony, back to you!" at the conclusion of an interview whereas the animatronics they have interviewing for WWE nowadays just stare blankly into space.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:00
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Did they ever have someone attack Mean Gene? I feel that went a long way in cementing his status as a respected interviewer. The only thing I can think of is when Papa Shango made him leak black poo poo from his shirt cuff. I remember Hollywood Hogan got shovey with him in an interview and Gene yelled about sending a fleet of lawyers after him if he didn't stop
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Oct 29, 2021 17:18
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Did they ever have someone attack Mean Gene? I feel that went a long way in cementing his status as a respected interviewer. The only thing I can think of is when Papa Shango made him leak black poo poo from his shirt cuff. Someone in WCW, I don't remember who, "attacked" him. He did whatever his move was to Gene but shoved the camera out of the way first so you couldn't see, because Gene couldn't actually take the bump, so he just laid down on the floor and pretended.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:27
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Gene throwing to people and calling them by name is like how JR always used to say "Referee Jack Doan" instead of "the ref" I honestly don't know why they even bother having interviewers at all anymore.
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Are there any details as to why the WWF let Mean Gene go? I had a couple of years of not watching any wrestling in those years so when I came back to see Bret Hart as champ, Mean Gene was one of the bigger losses as it really did take away some "legitimacy" from the product they were putting forth, especially with guys like Duke the Dumpster Drose coming in to fill the roster.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:47
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iamsosmrt posted:Are there any details as to why the WWF let Mean Gene go? I had a couple of years of not watching any wrestling in those years so when I came back to see Bret Hart as champ, Mean Gene was one of the bigger losses as it really did take away some "legitimacy" from the product they were putting forth, especially with guys like Duke the Dumpster Drose coming in to fill the roster. His contract expired and they never offered him a renewal. Wiki posted:Okerlund appeared at SummerSlam 1993 and made his final WWF appearance of the 1990s on the September 18, 1993 edition of Superstars. He then left the WWF entirely when his contract expired. He stated in an RF shoot interview, that although he probably could have re-negotiated a new contract, he was never actually offered one, thus opting to become an interviewer for World Championship Wrestling (WCW). He claimed at the time of his hiring with WCW that he had not been on speaking terms with McMahon for the past few years he was working in the WWF.
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iamsosmrt posted:Are there any details as to why the WWF let Mean Gene go? I had a couple of years of not watching any wrestling in those years so when I came back to see Bret Hart as champ, Mean Gene was one of the bigger losses as it really did take away some "legitimacy" from the product they were putting forth, especially with guys like Duke the Dumpster Drose coming in to fill the roster. I don't know for sure but I'm almost certain some of it had to do with the Hotline, which Gene ran effectively by himself but Vince wanted a cut. Edit: ^Ah nothing so sordid
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That was while Vince was getting rid of anyone over the age of forty. Macho left because Vince refused to let him wrestle anymore and stuck him at the commentary desk. And now...
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If you somehow haven't seen this, you need to do it right now. Just to see Mean Gene absolutely unable to keep a straight face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEIzkLr7JzQ
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Oct 29, 2021 18:03
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MrBling posted:If you somehow haven't seen this, you need to do it right now. Just to see Mean Gene absolutely unable to keep a straight face. the pronunciation of WO-MAN just slays me every time lmao
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Oct 29, 2021 18:04
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MrBling posted:If you somehow haven't seen this, you need to do it right now. Just to see Mean Gene absolutely unable to keep a straight face. I watch this once every few weeks when I smoke up, it's pretty amazing and Dr. Dave's delivery plus Gene's corpsing sells it every time. Yeah, I saw the wikipedia thing about the non-speaking terms, I was hoping someone had insider insight to it, but perhaps nothing ever came out. Even worse was that they tried to replace him with the likes of Todd Pettengill and Dox Hendrix. Kind of hilarious that they managed to hang on long enough to WCW to kill itself and Stone Cold to catch lightning in a bottle. Not shocking that Vince McMahon is so used to fall rear end backwards into success that he refuses to try any other way.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:23
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DeathChicken posted:I remember Hollywood Hogan got shovey with him in an interview and Gene yelled about sending a fleet of lawyers after him if he didn't stop Also telling Sean O'Haire and the rest of the NBT that he knows guys who can take out their kneecaps MrBling posted:If you somehow haven't seen this, you need to do it right now. Just to see Mean Gene absolutely unable to keep a straight face. "I'm looking for a WHOA-MON" never stops being funny.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:26
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The camera zooming in to take Gene out of the shot and the "WHATS WRONG WITH YOU GENE" are great as well
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Oct 29, 2021 18:36
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Animal-Mother posted:Mean Gene didn't even really have to do a whole lot to be a great interviewer. Know the angle, know the characters, and guide the conversation to its obvious conclusion. He had a great voice, but other than that, it's not like it's hard to tell a story about two guys who don't like each other getting into a fight.
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Gene did a program where he teamed w/Hogan against George Steele & Mr.Fuji https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IdVkFnNOxnI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5AiilBxV9dg I think it started with George or Fuji threatening Gene?
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Mean Gene and The Fink were both one of a kind I remember their voices from old WWF more than the commentary teams, even though the commentary was great at that time too.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Someone in WCW, I don't remember who, "attacked" him. He did whatever his move was to Gene but shoved the camera out of the way first so you couldn't see, because Gene couldn't actually take the bump, so he just laid down on the floor and pretended. It was Kanyon during his DDP obsession phase where he was going around delivering the Kanyon Cutter to everyone. I forget the name of the interviewer they had at the time but she was interviewing Kanyon and asking him if he felt like a big man hitting the Diamond Cutter on women to which he tried to do it to her and Gene comes in for the save. It's in this video at 8m45s, but the full thing is worth watching because there's some really funny ones. The one where Scott Steiner is being interviewed about attacking Kevin Nash and they're filming the outside of the arena is best because it's so completely random. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxhtga
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Oct 29, 2021 20:03
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Mean Gene did remind me a lot of Lance Russell in how they were amazing eyes of the storm, so to speak. Always gave just enough.
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Oct 29, 2021 20:31
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Idunno. Lance just had a certain something that Mean Gene lacked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFk0viRI7Ok
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Howard Finkel is the GOAT and completely ruined all ring announcers who came after for me. No offense to anyone in particular but nobody else has what he had.
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