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Smythe posted:the way we build our cities and live in them is wrong. i know it's not possible for everyone, and probably classist or something to imply, but people should strive to live smaller, local lives. i know that many have to live in the boonies and commute way in for work, this is a crime. we should all be able to live, work, socialize, volunteer, and endeavor to better our local communities. i think this is an aspiration worth fighting for, worth dedicating a lifetime to the pursuit of. it is worth it. given how everything has been pushed apart and widened, it's more than worth the effort. it's reclaiming such a basic need for humanity that usually gets swept under, but got really shown to the fore with the pandemic and everyone having to shelter in place for a bit. we go without, for the most part. it's baked into the design and functions to keep it and things like it in place. it sucks.
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i say swears online posted:gonna steal all bust rodd's friends Friendcuck Bust Rodd has a nice ring to it Anyway Smythe I've misjudged you, you're good people
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Shipon posted:I grew up in a small town and it was hell with busybodies everywhere and everyone knowing everyone else, "community" can easily be reactionary too not saying it's Right or Wrong, but more idyllic small town would be european small towns where it's still condensed 2story row/brick houses with a pub/eatery/cafe or two and everyone lives within 5km. i visitted a bunch and they're cool as heck. but it's a multifaceted problem, especially in america
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Oct 27, 2021 09:38
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Nah, European small towns can have those issues too.
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you don't get non-voluntary communities (like a village, small town, church or even family) without some measure of social control, and that control becomes more stifling the easier it is to simply leave. the impetus to go elsewhere is as far as i can tell stronger in the US than in most of europe because people are generally more exposed to raw market force, but it's present everywhere and it can turn very nasty.
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Oct 27, 2021 10:29
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The solution is to divide society up by which podcasts you listen to, and begin a series of forever wars between factions.
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Oct 27, 2021 10:32
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V. Illych L. posted:you don't get non-voluntary communities (like a village, small town, church or even family) without some measure of social control, and that control becomes more stifling the easier it is to simply leave. the impetus to go elsewhere is as far as i can tell stronger in the US than in most of europe because people are generally more exposed to raw market force, but it's present everywhere and it can turn very nasty. Maybe it's because here people happily brag about going to traveler camps with a gun to "keep them in order" or casually mention the compound of east asian migrants they withhold passports from for slave labour, but my view of people escaping to rural areas to escape from the malaise of city life has been somewhat bleaked out by that.
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Oct 27, 2021 11:30
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Shipon posted:I grew up in a small town and it was hell with busybodies everywhere and everyone knowing everyone else, "community" can easily be reactionary too which is one of the many reasons cities are great, it's just a shame such a large proportion of them are designed in the interests of capital and not at a human scale. i live in one of the more poorly planned, car dependent cities in the UK; you almost don't realise how much energy you're putting into shutting all the bullshit out until you go somewhere good. i cross a cumulative 18 odd lanes of traffic to get to my job 30 minutes away, i have to cross a gigantic crowded shopping district to get to an actual supermarket, the pavements are cramped and dirty etc.
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Oct 27, 2021 11:41
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Smythe posted:laughter, camaraderie, and joy should be a part of daily life. and it is possible. we have the means. people in villages around the world do it every day. to create a social fabric out of stone and glass is possible, and necessary, if we are to move forward as a more compassionate nation. whether it takes revolution, a drastic reduction in carbon emissions due to catastrophic climate change, or some other exogenous event to get us there i have no idea. but i think it would be nice, for people to have friends. for people to have someone elses living room to have some beers in. to have someone share a few in theirs. agreed on both counts
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Oct 27, 2021 11:54
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Telling people their social issues arent real and its actually easy is kinda lovely. yea, that’s certainly what occurred and not a absurd “the world has moved on from community building so we just go with it” attitude.
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my experience is limited to the cities I’ve lived in but Philadelphia seems like the most community driven place I’ve ever lived. all the racists sequester themselves to the suburbs and the shittiest parts of the city, and West Philly and the Gayborhood and Germantown all have really great community developments and green space for art or plays in the park and farmer’s markets etc and there’s literally always something to go and do. when my friends would explain to me what living in L.A. was like, it just made it seem like there was no sense of community because it takes 2 hours to get anywhere so no one ever feels like doing anything. In Philly you can ride from one end of the city to the other in under an hour on the train, and it’s one of the most bikable cities in the country. I used to do West Philly to North Philly in like 20-25 minutes on my bike, rain or shine, it’s a great ride.
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Oct 27, 2021 13:31
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Podcasters are just friends who haven't met me yet. But they will... 
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It's always bizarre seeing cities in countries with public transport that haven't been completed overtaken by roads and parking lots. They just look like big towns.
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V. Illych L. posted:you don't get non-voluntary communities (like a village, small town, church or even family) without some measure of social control, and that control becomes more stifling the easier it is to simply leave. the impetus to go elsewhere is as far as i can tell stronger in the US than in most of europe because people are generally more exposed to raw market force, but it's present everywhere and it can turn very nasty. yeah, I've had some great friends moving to different cities for school, but inevitably everyone has to pack up and leave to find work or a place to live elsewhere. still keep in touch with a bunch of them but zoom calls aren't quite the same sadly, and while we do visit and have a good time, it's harder to maintain these things. and then making new friends in another city just becomes a bit harder, or you end up in the burbs like we did and it's very atomized.
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Oct 27, 2021 15:15
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tokin opposition posted:The solution is to divide society up by which podcasts you listen to, and begin a series of forever wars between factions. That would somehow end up with Walt Tremblay becoming Emperor of America.
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Dreylad posted:yeah, I've had some great friends moving to different cities for school, but inevitably everyone has to pack up and leave to find work or a place to live elsewhere. still keep in touch with a bunch of them but zoom calls aren't quite the same sadly, and while we do visit and have a good time, it's harder to maintain these things. and then making new friends in another city just becomes a bit harder, or you end up in the burbs like we did and it's very atomized. yeah i'm becoming increasingly ambivalent about a lot of forms of formal individual freedom. moving away from where i grew up always makes me miserable whenever i do it no matter what opportunity i'm chasing elsewhere, especially when you move to a place where there isn't a community in which one is able and willing to invest. modern labour markets expecting people to just move around on a whim are complete poison imo
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tokin opposition posted:The solution is to divide society up by which podcasts you listen to, and begin a series of forever wars between factions. True Crime Obsessed would the ISIS of the Podcast War. A podcast who's whole aesthetic is off-putting but it rises to prominence seemingly out of nowhere with lots of funding a large following. Also they both seem to celebrate death and murder.
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah i'm becoming increasingly ambivalent about a lot of forms of formal individual freedom. moving away from where i grew up always makes me miserable whenever i do it no matter what opportunity i'm chasing elsewhere, especially when you move to a place where there isn't a community in which one is able and willing to invest. modern labour markets expecting people to just move around on a whim are complete poison imo I understand this sentiment but as somebody who had a miserable childhood I cant imagine being tied to my hometown, getting away and basically never going back was necessary for me to have any amount of happiness But leaving a place you hate is just as tied to the modern labor market as being forced to leave, and it’s all different forms of the same lovely system
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Gripweed posted:That would somehow end up with Walt Tremblay becoming Emperor of America. Dunno who that is but they're better than the billionaire pedos that run it now probably
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tokin opposition posted:Dunno who that is but they're better than the billionaire pedos that run it now probably https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631/155-crown-of-mist-the-final-day-of-princess-diana
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Gripweed posted:https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631/155-crown-of-mist-the-final-day-of-princess-diana Poor woman. All she wanted to do was wear her fat suit 
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Shipon posted:I grew up in a small town and it was hell with busybodies everywhere and everyone knowing everyone else, "community" can easily be reactionary too Yeah, I grew up in a similar way and there are definitely extremes in either direction. I remember when some friends of mine (in a different, slightly larger town I lived in after graduating college) kept insisting on dropping by completely at random without so much as calling first, and when I told them that I wish they wouldn't because sometimes I just want to be alone, they asked for a schedule of what those times were. Astonishingly we are still friends somehow.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I understand this sentiment but as somebody who had a miserable childhood I cant imagine being tied to my hometown, getting away and basically never going back was necessary for me to have any amount of happiness yeah i'm not begrudging this, i'm just seeing the downsides a lot more than i used to. i'm not advocating serfdom here
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah i'm becoming increasingly ambivalent about a lot of forms of formal individual freedom. moving away from where i grew up always makes me miserable whenever i do it no matter what opportunity i'm chasing elsewhere, especially when you move to a place where there isn't a community in which one is able and willing to invest. modern labour markets expecting people to just move around on a whim are complete poison imo agreed. I'm lucky that we ended up moving closer to my parents and family (and we get along with them very well) so that's a big plus. honestly if my parents' internet wasn't poo poo we'd probably just embrace the multigenerational household -- remote work is cool but also limits where you can go
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Xaris posted:started listening to Pod About List and enjoying it as a cum town-esque show. a little more lowkey vibes and a lot of adams on it, but it's been fun so far. cumtown is still great but it has gotten a little tiring that 2/3rd of it is just nick talking about how much it sucks now like they're gbs goons. oh noooo i make a ton of money doing a job that consists entirely of shooting the poo poo with my friends. poor me
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Imagine having to work a grueling two hours a week
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babypolis posted:oh noooo i make a ton of money doing a job that consists entirely of shooting the poo poo with my friends. poor me / Stav and Adam, nervously, to Nick while imagining their lives if they have to go back to being stand ups.
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Oct 28, 2021 05:32
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yes imagine stav's horror if he was forced to go back into stand up
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Oct 28, 2021 07:02
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What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession
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Oct 28, 2021 07:35
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I don't care 😂💅
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession i love titties
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i say swears online posted:yes imagine stav's horror if he was forced to
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession I don’t get this show’s hype. it’s a little unique in that I’m seeing it talked about absolutely everywhere but some people talk like it’s a funny comedy and some people talk like it’s a serious drama and nobody will actually talk about wtf it is, just that it’s popular and the world’s ugliest loving podcaster Dasha “cheating jerk who hurt my friend Adam” is on it.
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Wizard Master posted:Hes loving fat as poo poo lol
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession what are your thoughts on being the most tedious motherfucker on the planet
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession Who?
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on Dasha being on the new season of Succession is that the one tyhat looks like a romulan? i like that one
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