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feedmyleg posted:DV wants to make "at least three" Dunes Man, if they do make Dune Messiah then Jason Momoa returning is gonna get a big pop from the audience.
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NmareBfly posted:I had a great time with this. Saw it in the theater, thought that was mega worth it. Noon matinee on Monday means there were two other people in the whole screening besides my party. Considering a second trip to see it in IMAX and on more drugs. In the books, the spice is needed specifically because FTL folds space and without precognition it's impossible to plan a route through that space that won't collide with something. Presumably because you have to travel through the intervening space, just in a single instant with no time to react.
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Mike the TV posted:The Spider-Thing really grossed me out when I saw that it was probably a person. Then you are not gonna Wanna know what they took Yueh's wife apart for.
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LesterGroans posted:Man, if they do make Dune Messiah then Jason Momoa returning is gonna get a big pop from the audience. God Emperor or bust Momoa climbing a cliff and making a woman orgasm in the process will be a scene for the cinematic ages
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Halloween Jack posted:If you've read the books, it's obvious that the Harkonnen have turned a person into a spider-gimp for gross sex reasons. If you haven't read the books, this is totally random because they do absolutely nothing to convey that the Harkonnens are obscenely decadent, besides one scene where the Baron is stuffing his face, offscreen. Uh the Reverend Mother was disgusted by the latex adorned spider human pet with it's butt in the air. I felt it adequately displayed the Baron's sadism in pg13 manner without opening a can of PC worms by following the books portrayal. gohmak fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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ALFbrot posted:One bit I loved that I haven't seen anybody mention was when Paul and Jessica were starting up Kynes' hidden ornithopter and there was that common "there's problems getting it started and our pursuers are going to be here any moment!" bit, where Jessica keeps tensely looking towards the blackened door. You fully expect the Sardaukar to show up in the typical "stormtroopers shooting at the Millenium Falcon just as it flies away" manner, but they just... don't. They followed Kynes instead. I noticed that in the second viewing and thought it was a great touch. We don't need the sardaukar and their laser gun to appear, a shot of the door is enough to remind us that Paul and Jessica are running scared.
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As long as we get Oscar Isaac as Leto II for Children of Dune.
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Halloween Jack posted:I like the part where Paul says he'd rather have a song than a fight from Gurney, and it makes no sense because there is no context to know that Gurney Halleck is a bard. Lots of little things like that. So if you were introduced to a new person by a mutual friend and they were like "give us a song" to the new guy, you would be literally dumbfounded and unable to come to the conclusion that...maybe the new guy is a good singer or something? Seriously, why are goons incapable of imagining any detail of a fictional world that isn't spoonfed to them or available for purchase as a Funko Pop
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Can't remember if this was posted, but it's relevant https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1453386528378458132?t=LzOsZbvvZr1f-wCNl_M1DQ&s=19 I did really like Brolin's Gurney, which was a tall order after Patrick Stewart. Not as impressive as Momoa making me like Duncan for the first time ever though.
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Failed Imagineer posted:So if you were introduced to a new person by a mutual friend and they were like "give us a song" to the new guy, you would be literally dumbfounded and unable to come to the conclusion that...maybe the new guy is a good singer or something? Anyway. Yet another thing that the SyFy miniseries did better with a fraction of the budget. VVVV The gently caress? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:So if you were introduced to a new person by a mutual friend and they were like "give us a song" to the new guy, you would be literally dumbfounded and unable to come to the conclusion that...maybe the new guy is a good singer or something? This sort of thing often happens when the underlying critique cannot be properly articulated because it is irrational: for example, wanting Halleck to be more like Patrick Stewart; even though you know that would be completely wrong for Josh Brolin, that doesn't necessarily satisfy your brain's craving for Captain Picard. This is, of course, psychological speculation. But the subconscious desire for Patrick Stewart should be acknowledged openly to ensure that the underlying complaint is not the unsatisfied association with this majestic and sexy classically trained actor.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Momoa climbing a cliff and making a woman orgasm in the process will be a scene for the cinematic ages Lets face it how many other actors could pull that off credibly?
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Alchenar posted:Lets face it how many other actors could pull that off credibly? Realistically, only Danny DeVito
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LesterGroans posted:Can't remember if this was posted, but it's relevant I like how they never touch on Duncan's surname as it's just to silly to take seriously. Also I hope they adapt Messiah to give Paul and hopefully complete Paul's character arc. The more of the books they adapt the more liberties they'll have to take though, I don't see nor do I hope to get a faithful representation of Leto II on the screen as I don't see that playing out well with audiences.
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Hodgepodge posted:This sort of thing often happens when the underlying critique cannot be properly articulated because it is irrational: for example, wanting Halleck to be more like Patrick Stewart; even though you know that would be completely wrong for Josh Brolin, that doesn't necessarily satisfy your brain's craving for Captain Picard. The books takes place in our world but in the future and they talk about Agamemnon and Hitler and stuff so the line should have been "Give us a song, like that great performer or yore, Patrick Stewart"
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HK5000 posted:I like how they never touch on Duncan's surname as it's just to silly to take seriously. I feel like I'm getting into a rhythm of whiteknighting my beloved DUNC here, but the name doesn't even seem that weird? Like there's probably plenty of surnames now derived from thousand of years old places that no longer exist. Does kind of sound like a gay pornstar tho
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I dunno, naming someone after a US state in a US novel written in the 20th century is something that really stands out. I get what you mean about the legacy of words and how it might filter through time the same way as ancient last names today, but it's always rubbed me the wrong way. When I read it as a dumb teen my take was that Duncan was such a bad rear end because he was basically a very rare future American, and existed in my mind as something between Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live and Stallone in demolitions man, transplanted into Star Wars and not taking any poo poo.
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gohmak posted:Then you are not gonna Wanna know what they took Yueh's wife apart for. She was the spider-gimp?
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Neo Rasa posted:The books takes place in our world but in the future and they talk about Agamemnon and Hitler and stuff so the line should have been "Give us a song, like that great performer or yore, Patrick Stewart" Probably a bit too blatant a callout; it's been like 30,000 years since Star Trek.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Duncan was such a bad rear end because he was basically a very rare future American. Isn't Duncan Idaho in the book blasian?
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Failed Imagineer posted:I feel like I'm getting into a rhythm of whiteknighting my beloved DUNC here, but the name doesn't even seem that weird? Like there's probably plenty of surnames now derived from thousand of years old places that no longer exist. Does kind of sound like a gay pornstar tho Duncan Idaho, may I present your new lieutenants: Chucky Kentucky and Ned Nebraska.
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Arglebargle III posted:Isn't Duncan Idaho in the book blasian? I'll be honest even in my rereading I'm not doing a very good job of recalling descriptions of ethnicity, I can vaguely recall someone was described as having epicanthic folds but not who. Teenage me assuming Duncan Idaho is probably wrenching on a Chevy Nova somewhere in the Artreides compound is not supported in the text.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I'll be honest even in my rereading I'm not doing a very good job of recalling descriptions of ethnicity, I can vaguely recall someone was described as having epicanthic folds but not who. Teenage me assuming Duncan Idaho is probably wrenching on a Chevy Nova somewhere in the Artreides compound is not supported in the text. Herbert doesn't explicitly say what race someone is but I think it's Yueh who has the epicanthic folds. I believe Idaho is described as having dark or black hair at least.
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Yeah, Duncan is described as having "goat-like" curly black hair and dark skin, but green eyes. He also nearly has an aneurysm at the sight of lesbian foreplay.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Duncan Idaho, may I present your new lieutenants: Chucky Kentucky and Ned Nebraska. Duncan Idaho as part of a superteam named after states, alongside Hannah Montana, Johnny Utah, and Indiana Jones.
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Kurzon posted:I don't know if it has been brought up in this thread already, but a lot of Warhammer 40,000 fans on various Reddit boards are saying that Dune is totally WH40K. I think the similarities are superficial. WH40K cribbed a few things from Dune but not the core themes. Sure, WH40K has navigators and a ban on AI, but they don't tie in to the core themes of WH40K the way they do in Dune. In Dune, FTL travel is impossible without the navigators, and the navigators need the spice, which is why everyone is fighting over the one source of spice in the Universe. Whereas navigators in WH40K are just there, you could excise navigators from WH40K without destroying the setting. Similarly, in Dune, the ban on AI is the reason why humans must use navigators in the first place (and also Mentats). The ban on AI didn't even appear in WH40K until the second edition, it is not key to the setting. the Sardaukar intro fits the WH40k aesthetic so well that its hard to argue otherwise.
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Tankbuster posted:the Sardaukar intro fits the WH40k aesthetic so well that its hard to argue otherwise. Yeah, they and the Fremen are the original Catachans/Death Corp of Krieg. Also there are worlds that are only inhabited for the sake of providing maximally tough recruits for space marine legions.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Yeah when you're talking about the far-off year of 2010 and you're running off to cyberspace (which looks like jet grind radio) it's gonna be tough-to-impossible to make that feel fresh and relevant. If you're a couple thousand years in the future (or 24,000 for dunc) you're gonna have a lot more leeway in terms of design. I hate this interpretation of Neuromancer cyberspace. It's described as being lines and shapes and floating heads - a literal visualization of the physical computer network that you're working on breaking into. It's not until Case interfaces with the AI at the end of the book that he experiences a virtual reality world, and he's literally taken aback at the fact that it's possible to simulate something like this.
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I'm glad they toned down the martial aptitude of the Fremen in the film. They're clearly extremely good and taking on the Sardaukar in greater numbers, but they aren't 'hey we sent some guys to kill 100 Harkonnen and lost 2 also we captured a couple of Sardaukar those guys gave us a good fight' good.
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Alchenar posted:I'm glad they toned down the martial aptitude of the Fremen in the film. They're clearly extremely good and taking on the Sardaukar in greater numbers, but they aren't 'hey we sent some guys to kill 100 Harkonnen and lost 2 also we captured a couple of Sardaukar those guys gave us a good fight' good. Been a while since I read the book but from what I remember that scene almost came across as funny. "But, they were SARDAUKAR!" "Yess. They fought well.  "
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Tirranek posted:Been a while since I read the book but from what I remember that scene almost came across as funny. Stilgar is gonna have some choice scenes like that in the second one. Bardem is lowkey the best thing about DUNC that isn't Rebecca Fergs.
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Tirranek posted:Been a while since I read the book but from what I remember that scene almost came across as funny. The scene is also not great because it's a conversation between Thufir and a Fremen dude where the Fremen is saying to him "yo dude you have a whole load of wounded and we have a long journey across the desert now and you have a water decision to make for the good of the tribe" and Thufir just isn't understanding what he's being told despite it being very obvious.
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Alchenar posted:The scene is also not great because it's a conversation between Thufir and a Fremen dude where the Fremen is saying to him "yo dude you have a whole load of wounded and we have a long journey across the desert now and you have a water decision to make for the good of the tribe" and Thufir just isn't understanding what he's being told despite it being very obvious. Why's that not great?
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Eason the Fifth posted:Book reading friends and non-book reading friends have all loved it. Great take on the series generally, but not without a few faults seems to be the median take The groups that have not loved it seems to consist mostly of one book reader and one non book-reader. Survey says the major problem for the latter was the narrative continually pausing to add exposition on spice, mentats and CHOAM.
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