i just use the logout trick on everything, yeah. they really need to just add pedestals to arenas like Oceanid event so you can resummon bosses more easily
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:16 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:44 |
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every boss that isn't in a domain should have a teleporter like 10 feet from their arena and it's so strange that mihoyo didn't think of that before launch. they're a lot better about it now at least also idg why domains spawn you so far from the actual arena that you'll run out of stamina trying to run to the start point. why do it like that?
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:24 |
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Acerbatus posted:Is that from the monthly passes or have you bought primo packs? Saving + the occasional Welkin
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:25 |
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Nyoro posted:God think of all the times you'd have to fight that loving earth cube to level several geodudes at once It’s a special hell, and the one I’ve put myself in for some reason. It’s not the fragments that slow me down, it’s the Basalt Pillars. Only drops 2-3 at a time and isn’t craftable. It’s the worst. I don’t even have Noelle at C6 yet, I’m just preparing for when I do. Ningguang is rad tho.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:45 |
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I have Ningguang at C4, and she seems very weak. Is she really a strong carry? Frankly I just don’t understand what makes characters really good or not— is it their burst/skill synergizing with others? Do some have really good base stats or something?
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:46 |
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I guess teapotting and back also works for boss respawns but it's still daft
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:49 |
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jokes posted:I have Ningguang at C4, and she seems very weak. Is she really a strong carry? You're already playing Ning at literally half speed if you don't walk-cancel her normals. At c2 which is the minimum you need for her to be a true carry, she's a self sufficient ult spammer with a second geo on the team. Geo resonance gives super strong damage boost, and her usual game plan is Skill hitting someone-->walk through for damage boost->attack rotation with walk cancel->charge attack->Ult->skill again due to C2.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 04:55 |
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I'm kinda hoping at some point they'll add some kind of hub that lets you directly teleport to the bosses. That would also double as a way for new players to actually ascend newer characters who require drops from later locations. Just put some kind of barrier around the arena for them so they can't go exploring.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:03 |
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AshtonDragon posted:Just put some kind of barrier around the arena for them so they can't go exploring. They literally did this for the relay boss when you first get to Inazuma so you can't get into the caverns surrounding it until you do it the right way, so they've even set precedent for this
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:19 |
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jokes posted:I have Ningguang at C4, and she seems very weak. Is she really a strong carry? upsides: she does aoe damage at c2, she can spam her ult with the right setup, her gates hit for ~25k aoe damage and can occasionally be spammed again downsides: her crystals from her ult and c6 tend to fly off or run into architecture, considering they're the bulk of her damage it feels like poo poo when half of them hit zhongli's pillar or her own gate. I guess where it really matters (domains and the abyss) it's not as bad since they're all flat planes without a ceiling. she also needs a shielder and second geo to be effective.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:29 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:It's because there's no loving teleporter near him, mostly. You have to either swim out to his his island each time or run from the dungeon nearby and it's just loving annoying. Oh people are also including the walk to them as part of the reasons why they hate geo cube? Okay I can understand that, yeah this is absolutely understandable and it changes my tierlist. Fighting ice and wind ones suck and wind is way too far away from all of the teleporters too.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:35 |
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AshtonDragon posted:I'm kinda hoping at some point they'll add some kind of hub that lets you directly teleport to the bosses. That would also double as a way for new players to actually ascend newer characters who require drops from later locations. Just put some kind of barrier around the arena for them so they can't go exploring. Portals to walled off boss arenas wouldn't solve the need for regional items from monsters and exploration.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:45 |
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jokes posted:I have Ningguang at C4, and she seems very weak. Is she really a strong carry? Ning just takes a lot of investment to get running in general, so trying her out without putting in the work first is gonna feel bad, yeah. She doesn't have any good f2p weapon options if you missed Dodoco Tales, so you either need to get lucky with 4*s or spring for a Solar Pearl, and more than even most other carries she really really wants all three of her talents leveled. Not to mention needing to build up a second geo to support her.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 05:49 |
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RareAcumen posted:Oh people are also including the walk to them as part of the reasons why they hate geo cube? Okay I can understand that, yeah this is absolutely understandable and it changes my tierlist. Fighting ice and wind ones suck and wind is way too far away from all of the teleporters too. Noelle was one of my first fully ascended characters and if I didn't have mona to sprint from the island with the waypoint I probably would hate the geo cube way more. It was still annoying to do though
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 09:39 |
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padijun posted:upsides: she does aoe damage at c2, she can spam her ult with the right setup, her gates hit for ~25k aoe damage and can occasionally be spammed again Why do you say she needs a shielder? Yeah Crystallize is pretty useless for actual defensive shields but it works just fine for the "have literally any shield no matter how lovely" requirement of geo resonance, and Ning makes way more crystallize shards than she can use if you have any elemental sub-dps hitting stuff. It just happens that one of the most busted units in the game is a geo shielder so everyone who has him runs them together. But she'll also work fine with Albedo and later Gorou, or even as a sub-dps for main-dps Itto. RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Oct 29, 2021 |
# ? Oct 29, 2021 10:03 |
given the assumption Itto will have energy issues it seems likely that he might prefer to run Ning or GMC instead of Albedo
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 10:16 |
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It's confirmed his bull summon does generate energy particles like other ones, I think I saw it was confirmed to be 4 particles? Obviously subject to change, lmao
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 10:25 |
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Turns out when I suck at combat, all I need to do is slap some 4* artifacts on Noelle, give her my best claymore, stick her in my party and SPIN TO WIN
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 13:12 |
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x1o posted:Turns out when I suck at combat, all I need to do is slap some 4* artifacts on Noelle, give her my best claymore, stick her in my party and SPIN TO WIN As a dutiful maid should.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 13:22 |
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AshtonDragon posted:I'm kinda hoping at some point they'll add some kind of hub that lets you directly teleport to the bosses. That would also double as a way for new players to actually ascend newer characters who require drops from later locations. Just put some kind of barrier around the arena for them so they can't go exploring. I regularly put a temporary teleport point on the island with the Geo Hypostasis when I've needed to grind it for this reason since it's so far removed from the closest teleport point and across a body of water. kirbysuperstar posted:As a dutiful maid should. Speaking of whom, I've never quite understood why one of the popular reads of Noelle is as a yandere character. As far as I've been able to tell she's pretty much played straight personality wise and the whole "gap moe" thing they're going for is just this dimwitted easily taken advantage of meek girly girl with contrasting monstrous strength that she is of course largely oblivious to how abnormal it is. The only thing I can think of is her one hangout ending where she's oblivious to the foreigner guy that's up to no good and trying to offer him the best hospitality while you are going around sabotaging it and trying to drive him away so he get's the wrong idea about her and runs away at the end. Kale fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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super sweet best pal posted:Portals to walled off boss arenas wouldn't solve the need for regional items from monsters and exploration. This is a good point, and not to mention the necessity of talent books. There are solutions to this problem too, but it would definitely take more than no effort for them to implement. Since you'd still want to give people who aren't new reasons to gather stuff from the new areas.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 14:05 |
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Cattail Prophet posted:Ning just takes a lot of investment to get running in general, so trying her out without putting in the work first is gonna feel bad, yeah. She doesn't have any good f2p weapon options if you missed Dodoco Tales, so you either need to get lucky with 4*s or spring for a Solar Pearl, and more than even most other carries she really really wants all three of her talents leveled. Not to mention needing to build up a second geo to support her. The Widsith is solid on her just on the basis of being a catalyst with a Crit DMG% substat (even if she can't benefit from one third of its special effects) Andrast fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 29, 2021 |
# ? Oct 29, 2021 14:30 |
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Wait Qiqi's voice actress in Japanese has been Yukari Tamura this whole time? How am I just finding this out now? That's so loving random feeling.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 14:38 |
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jokes posted:I have Ningguang at C4, and she seems very weak. Is she really a strong carry? As.a side note, I personally cant find a reason to say ningguang is especially good. The only time i've seen her excel was during vagabond sword when there was a flying boss she could freely target.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 14:48 |
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No Wave posted:As.a side note, I personally cant find a reason to say ningguang is especially good. The only time i've seen her excel was during vagabond sword when there was a flying boss she could freely target. She's a good secondary geo character for resonance/energy generation with her C2. The only cheap options in that role right now are Noelle, who doesn't really do the job at all, and geo traveller, who... is theoretically really good in the role but kind of a pain in the rear end. She also works as a main dps pretty well if you get used to how her attacks work, but she's not incredible in that role. I've done abyss floor 12 9-star clears with parties around her before, but she's not gonna just crush stuff the same way Xiangling does with Childe or Xingqiu. I wouldn't recommend using her like that unless you have another good geo character to support her with, like Albedo or (obviously) Zhongli.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 14:58 |
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Geo traveler is the worst character in the game. I really like the burst, but the skill is so loving dumb and unwieldy.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:03 |
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jokes posted:Geo traveler is the worst character in the game. I really like the burst, but the skill is so loving dumb and unwieldy.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:05 |
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x1o posted:Turns out when I suck at combat, all I need to do is slap some 4* artifacts on Noelle, give her my best claymore, stick her in my party and SPIN TO WIN never mind, the final boss on the second floor of the vengeful wood dungeon tore me a new rear end in a top hat so the game sucks once again.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:11 |
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I just want to be able to detonate the rocks on demand so when I gently caress up and put it where i don’t want it I can get rid of it.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:11 |
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Is Geo traveler the only source of a placable thing you can climb on (or act as a weight)?I generally keep Traveler as Geo in the Geo area because of that, but actually using it in combat is extremely frustrating (outside of the burst which rules). I wish I could just easily detonate the Geo globes somehow for aoe damage, then it’d be a lot better
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:12 |
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jokes posted:Is Geo traveler the only source of a placable thing you can climb on (or act as a weight)?I generally keep Traveler as Geo in the Geo area because of that, but actually using it in combat is extremely frustrating (outside of the burst which rules).
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:24 |
Zhongli's pillar isn't really a thing you aim/control but has the same issues as GMC rocks, only saved by being a smaller thing so you/enemies are less likely to get stuck to it
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:27 |
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x1o posted:never mind, the final boss on the second floor of the vengeful wood dungeon tore me a new rear end in a top hat so the game sucks once again. never mind, went back and tore a new rear end in a top hat in that boss thanks to RNG giving me a massive buff to the Cryo shikifuda which shredded everything. In summary, the game is a land of contrasts.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:32 |
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No Wave posted:Yoimiya is considered better than Aloy because her normal attack multiiers are better and she also multiplies them again by a flat 1.7x. This is like comparing apples to orange. Aside from being bow users who infuse their attacks, they play nothing alike and require completely different support. It'd be like comparing Noelle and Diluc.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:35 |
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gandlethorpe posted:This is like comparing apples to orange. Aside from being bow users who infuse their attacks, they play nothing alike and require completely different support. It'd be like comparing Noelle and Diluc. Point in case, Noelle is better than Diluc, because Diluc's advantages are:
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:44 |
1) they don't ship him with your player character 2) he is fully self sufficient 3) he can break more shields and do more puzzles
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:46 |
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diluc does way more damage and doesnt need c6? he can vape?
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:46 |
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diluc won't nap under trees with you so he sucks.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:51 |
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Diluc's a fun character to use early because his skill-aa-weaving is the only way to hit stuff with a claymore without wanting to die. And then I see videos of what Itto's attack string looks like (even the burst's atk-spd-locked version) and I'm like, ok, bye wine Batman.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 15:53 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 09:44 |
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Noelle and Diluc fill the same role with different supports, I don't think it's crazy to compare them. Diluc can do more damage but hogs the two best supports to do so, Noelle has huge energy requirements but a few big advantages (aoe, healing, and geo resonance). I think they're two of the better designed characters in the game so I have both pretty built, but both are fairly weak compared to the heavy hitters. No Wave fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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