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The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Lolie posted:

Oh dear. Just saw that some of the ICAC stuff calls Perrottet's integrity into question. This is getting interesting.

I think there's also a perrottimebomb buried in this thicket: https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/workplace/icare-under-investigation-as-consultants-swarm-insurer-20200311-p5492g

quote:

The NSW Government's workers' compensation agency is under investigation for failing to properly disclose more than $150 million worth of contracts, the majority of which were not put out to tender

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Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Gladys surrounded herself with obnoxious men.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Lolie posted:

Gladys surrounded herself with obnoxious men.

Yes she is a member of the liberal party.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

'They could be taping your conversation with me right now': Maguire says, in taped phone call

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

dr_rat posted:

Thank god young libs are out of touch, humourless idiots. Awaiting "a jam with scott" type content. Either that or "how to avoid paying tax on the money your parents gave you to pay your first home." Either way unless they get a bannon type to run it 100% going to fade away in a year or two

Young Libs are even nastier than the regular kind. And more racist and homophobic.

An online newspaper made by and for them would almost instantly turn into [googles "nazi newspapers"] yeah, that.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Looking forward to Gerard Henderson doing tik toks

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
"Hey Kids who wants to talk about Robert Menzies?"

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Young Libs are even nastier than the regular kind. And more racist and homophobic.

An online newspaper made by and for them would almost instantly turn into [googles "nazi newspapers"] yeah, that.

Wait they're still doing the homophobia? I thought they'd given that front up as lost and moved on to hating trans people.

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

Killing the Safe Schools initiative was heavily based on homophobia IIRC.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Oh good point. Yeah, deniable homophobia they can camouflage as something else.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

Coles and Woolies shelves are getting progressively emptier week by week. The supply chain issues are too severe for anyone to ignore at this point and shits about to go south real fast

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Wizard Master posted:

Coles and Woolies shelves are getting progressively emptier week by week. The supply chain issues are too severe for anyone to ignore at this point and shits about to go south real fast
This is not my experience. Where are you seeing this?

Edit - based on the first set of food stats I could find, ten years ago we were importing only 5-10% of our total food consumption, and exporting more food than we were importing. Has that changed?

The Artificial Kid fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Oct 29, 2021

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Young Libs are even nastier than the regular kind. And more racist and homophobic.

An online newspaper made by and for them would almost instantly turn into [googles "nazi newspapers"] yeah, that.

Yeah The Arse but online is just Stormfront

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

The Artificial Kid posted:

This is not my experience. Where are you seeing this?

Edit - based on the first set of food stats I could find, ten years ago we were importing only 5-10% of our total food consumption, and exporting more food than we were importing. Has that changed?

It comes and goes. I'm in Sydney, and the coles i go to had no cheese for a week. Some other specific items are zeroed out from time to time.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
All the people I know that would have been young libs got turbo hosed by their parents spending all their inheritance

Lol

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Wizard Master posted:

Coles and Woolies shelves are getting progressively emptier week by week. The supply chain issues are too severe for anyone to ignore at this point and shits about to go south real fast

Sorry but you are gonna have to post proof because I aint seeing or reading anything saying that. The issues that exist in the UK are not existant here.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


yeah aside from the initial toilet paper craziness in the middle of last year I don't think our local supermarkets have been short of anything

Mysticblade
Oct 22, 2012

Can confirm, grocery stores in my part of Sydney seem just fine to me.

I was really late to get vaxxed since I was having issues getting bookings. It's cleared up now but I had to do quite a bit of shopping around to shuffle up the date

Sierra Madre
Dec 24, 2011

But getting to it. That's not the hard part.

It's letting go.

Wizard Master posted:

Coles and Woolies shelves are getting progressively emptier week by week. The supply chain issues are too severe for anyone to ignore at this point and shits about to go south real fast

While I can't speak to supermarkets since I only go to about two and they seem fine, tech was absolutely getting hit with this hard. Months-long delays to get some parts and products. It seems to be getting a little better now, and only affected a limited spread of stuff, but I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Yeah shits hosed especially specialist/embedded type hardware. Regular servers seem ok, 2-3 weeks.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

photographic is turbo hosed for November, they expect December to be better

DRINK ME
Jul 31, 2006
i cant fix avs like this because idk the bbcode - HTML IS BS MAN
The one thing I’ve noticed in supermarkets is olive oil, it’s still on the shelf in regular bottles and regular prices but the bulk tins they usually have are very scarce - I make soap sometimes so those are the best value. Most of the ones I’ve bought previously are from Spain so I suspected that was supply chain, however I haven’t noticed anything else being out of stock regularly, just empty shelves below the oils where those tins normally sit.

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

Not noticed any shortages central Vic but anticipate there will be tomorrow as the population of Castlemaine rises from 9000 to 600000 in a day.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Only thing I've noticed in Victoria is certain kinds of bread which I think was a COVID outbreak thing (fewer people able to work in huge bakery factories or whatever) rather than a global thing.

Sierra Madre posted:

While I can't speak to supermarkets since I only go to about two and they seem fine, tech was absolutely getting hit with this hard. Months-long delays to get some parts and products. It seems to be getting a little better now, and only affected a limited spread of stuff, but I'm curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

I don't actually have any reason to want a PS5 but subscribing to push notifications from the Twitter alert bot and scrambling to try to secure one whenever Kmart or JB or whoever gets stock has been a fun little lockdown game in and of itself

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

freebooter posted:

I don't actually have any reason to want a PS5 but subscribing to push notifications from the Twitter alert bot and scrambling to try to secure one whenever Kmart or JB or whoever gets stock has been a fun little lockdown game in and of itself

I wish they'd do a drat sign up list like in the states..

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

abigserve posted:

All the people I know that would have been young libs got turbo hosed by their parents spending all their inheritance

Lol

That checks out. There's got to be absolutely nothing that boomer conservatives love more than to spend all their money before their kids can get any.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That checks out. There's got to be absolutely nothing that boomer conservatives love more than to spend all their money before their kids can get any.

The only one that is the exception is waiting for his parents to drop so he inherits the family farm so he can sell it for several million buckeroos

Except for a variety of reasons I won’t go into here he is the absolute least likely out of his large family to see any of that money

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


There’s been some random gaps on the shelves of my local Sydney Woolies recently to the point where they put up notices saying they were having supply issues with those items. Stuff I noticed was some oils, vinegars, tinned coconut milk and tinned tomatoes.
Those shelves have gradually filled back up in the last couple of weeks though.

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.
Let’s say hypothetically a random Australian felt the quixotic desire to put some effort into positive political change. Let’s also say it was mostly motivated by anger at climate inaction and then probably political corruption, the pervasive and poisonous influence of our corporate and economic elite, the ongoing privatisation of our jobs/health/education sectors, weakening of our welfare system and maybe also how little we are supporting economic transition and R&D.

I feel like this thread has soured on joining the Greens last few years but is that basically the only thing worth doing no matter how ineffectual? Any recent views on the current state of the party?Is there anything else worth doing instead? I’m assuming change from within in the ALP is even more ineffectual.

Surely I’m not the only person feeling like this - wondering about alternatives to just total despair. Like on one hand it seems obvious we need to flat out stop fossil fuel extraction while also being super obvious that will be near impossible in Australia in the next decade barring some kind of miracle or catastrophe.

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

Not to quench a healthy desire to do good in the world but a perfectly healthy alternative is to just stop reading and listening to stuff that stresses you out and just live your life, these things are so far out of your control as to be literally not worth worrying about, past the point where you've made all the requisite changes to your purchasing/waste/voting/etc habits

glasnost toyboy
May 29, 2009

Blamestorm posted:

Let’s say hypothetically a random Australian felt the quixotic desire to put some effort into positive political change. Let’s also say it was mostly motivated by anger at climate inaction and then probably political corruption, the pervasive and poisonous influence of our corporate and economic elite, the ongoing privatisation of our jobs/health/education sectors, weakening of our welfare system and maybe also how little we are supporting economic transition and R&D.

I feel like this thread has soured on joining the Greens last few years but is that basically the only thing worth doing no matter how ineffectual? Any recent views on the current state of the party?Is there anything else worth doing instead? I’m assuming change from within in the ALP is even more ineffectual.

Surely I’m not the only person feeling like this - wondering about alternatives to just total despair. Like on one hand it seems obvious we need to flat out stop fossil fuel extraction while also being super obvious that will be near impossible in Australia in the next decade barring some kind of miracle or catastrophe.

At least wait until the Libs win the next election before you go full doomer.

In all seriousness, poo poo is hard. There's no real upside to engaging with politics as Australians are just gonna vote for whoever the Herald Sun says is gonna give them the biggest tax cut.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

just lmao if your not an impoverished bachelor in your 30s with a cupboard full of cans of beans

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

glasnost toyboy posted:

At least wait until the Libs win the next election before you go full doomer.

In all seriousness, poo poo is hard. There's no real upside to engaging with politics as Australians are just gonna vote for whoever the Herald Sun says is gonna give them the biggest tax cut.

This country has the highest median wealth on earth. What engaging do you expect most people to do that isn't related to their income and belongings?

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.

glasnost toyboy posted:

At least wait until the Libs win the next election before you go full doomer.

In all seriousness, poo poo is hard. There's no real upside to engaging with politics as Australians are just gonna vote for whoever the Herald Sun says is gonna give them the biggest tax cut.

It’s not so much I’m going full doomer as I feel vaguely obligated to at least try doing something - and have been thinking about if any kind of political engagement is a total waste of time or not. I think actually parts of the APS are more effective and influential than many would assume but this is probably more of an indictment on our other institutions. Justified or not though it’s hard not to feel complicit in the execution of decisions which seem completely counter to the interests of most Australians in the long or short term.

I figure probably otherwise best to just think about what can be done locally?

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.

JBP posted:

This country has the highest median wealth on earth. What engaging do you expect most people to do that isn't related to their income and belongings?

This is mostly true but also highly related to how our superannuation and housing systems work, and is also super split on inter generational lines. There are OECD countries with lower per capita wealth where I think many people have less on the line but higher cradle to grave quality of life because of robust pension systems and cheaper housing (or lower home ownership rates and much greater rental protections). These countries are as (or nearly as) wealthy but the wealth sits elsewhere in the system but people benefit in similar ways. However the entire citizenry aren’t all expected to be financial experts in order to have a comfortable retirement. A nurse or teacher here can work their whole lives for other people but get sold one lovely super fund early in life or not get into the housing market at the right time and be fairly screwed (at least relatively) by retirement. So basically I think comparisons to other advanced economies need to be more nuanced when thinking about wealth in particular. I’d rather we had a massive sovereign wealth fund ala Norway for example.

I would hope this gives people even less risk tolerance here vs overseas in terms of things like safety nets and long term issues like climate change, but, well instead I guess it encourages gently caress you got mine.

Blamestorm fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Oct 29, 2021

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


Blamestorm posted:

Let’s say hypothetically a random Australian felt the quixotic desire to put some effort into positive political change. Let’s also say it was mostly motivated by anger at climate inaction and then probably political corruption, the pervasive and poisonous influence of our corporate and economic elite, the ongoing privatisation of our jobs/health/education sectors, weakening of our welfare system and maybe also how little we are supporting economic transition and R&D.

I feel like this thread has soured on joining the Greens last few years but is that basically the only thing worth doing no matter how ineffectual? Any recent views on the curr ent state of the party?Is there anything else worth doing instead? I’m assuming change from within in the ALP is even more ineffectual.

Surely I’m not the only person feeling like this - wondering about alternatives to just total despair. Like on one hand it seems obvious we need to flat out stop fossil fuel extraction while also being super obvious that will be near impossible in Australia in the next decade barring some kind of miracle or catastrophe.

political party effort on an individual level is sadly mostly folly. but you can make a real difference on a personal level by participating in volunteer environmental / wildlife programs. most national parks, wetlands, conservation areas have things that they need capable humans and hands for and participation is rewarding and meaningful. planting trees throughout glenthorne national park, a new park near me, has been great

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Blamestorm posted:


I figure probably otherwise best to just think about what can be done locally?

Talk to your close circle of people and make sure they don't vote for the libs, or other right wing parties. Then expand that circle and convert everyone else.

The problems are too big to tackle at a personal level past the low hanging fruit, so societal change needs to happen and it won't happen with the LNP in power.

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.

alf_pogs posted:

political party effort on an individual level is sadly mostly folly. but you can make a real difference on a personal level by participating in volunteer environmental / wildlife programs. most national parks, wetlands, conservation areas have things that they need capable humans and hands for and participation is rewarding and meaningful. planting trees throughout glenthorne national park, a new park near me, has been great

I’ll certainly give it more thought. I just see so many of the big problems as system driven and can’t escape trying to think what I can do to help support change at that level. With others, obviously, but yeah I can’t see the realistic opportunity with how our system works. Maybe at state/territory level?

Blamestorm
Aug 14, 2004

We LOL at death! Watch us LOL. Love the LOL.

NPR Journalizard posted:

Talk to your close circle of people and make sure they don't vote for the libs, or other right wing parties. Then expand that circle and convert everyone else.

The problems are too big to tackle at a personal level past the low hanging fruit, so societal change needs to happen and it won't happen with the LNP in power.

Fair enough. I’m in the ACT though and everyone I know is as left or more so than I am. :-)

Edit: interesting that I’m not hearing much pro greens stuff though. I feel like that was more the case a few years ago here.

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big dong wanter
Jan 28, 2010

The future for this country is roads, freeways and highways

To the dangerzone

Blamestorm posted:

Let’s say hypothetically a random Australian felt the quixotic desire to put some effort into positive political change. Let’s also say it was mostly motivated by anger at climate inaction and then probably political corruption, the pervasive and poisonous influence of our corporate and economic elite, the ongoing privatisation of our jobs/health/education sectors, weakening of our welfare system and maybe also how little we are supporting economic transition and R&D.

I feel like this thread has soured on joining the Greens last few years but is that basically the only thing worth doing no matter how ineffectual? Any recent views on the current state of the party?Is there anything else worth doing instead? I’m assuming change from within in the ALP is even more ineffectual.

Surely I’m not the only person feeling like this - wondering about alternatives to just total despair. Like on one hand it seems obvious we need to flat out stop fossil fuel extraction while also being super obvious that will be near impossible in Australia in the next decade barring some kind of miracle or catastrophe.

its actually pretty easy, simply [REDACTED FOR ACTIONABLE THREAT]

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