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buffalo all day posted:making Min non-binary would have been an interesting way to have one of the main actors have a non-heterosexual relationship. Maybe they can cast faile as a dude. Perrin is a wolfbrother, not a bearbrother.
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Hexel posted:I'm guessing nobody is gonna be birched either Given that there's the whole "Egwene Endures" thing where she wins the respect of the Tower Aes Sedai by enduring the torments that Elaida orders, I wonder if they're going to scale UP Egwene's torment from continual spankings to something like Power Torture or whippings or something. Rarity posted:Mat is pansexual fight me And that right there is a good way to solve Mat in Ebou Dar. Make it so it's not that creepy relationship with Tylin but that Mat and Beslan get into a relationship that keeps Mat in Ebou Dar for so long.
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Oct 29, 2021 15:17
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67-page epic spanking montage becomes 3-episode epic spanking montage
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Oct 29, 2021 15:19
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the manetheren spankological protocol
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jng2058 posted:And that right there is a good way to solve Mat in Ebou Dar. Make it so it's not that creepy relationship with Tylin but that Mat and Beslan get into a relationship that keeps Mat in Ebou Dar for so long. The Mat/Tylin dynamic really should stay in because media never highlights female-on-male rape
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:no you're right, I'm old and still working on updating my language, that's on me you're fine, functionally there's not really much difference unless you run into someone who wants to be revisionist and make it a problem. it's entirely just a case about being respectful of someone's preference also chances are they're going to focus mostly on giving egwene a bunch of chores and whatever as the main focus of her imprisonment, maybe with lashings with the power thrown in that would probably hammer in the inhumane treatment and get people on her side more
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"doing chores" sure does consume a lot of page count in WoT.
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Data Graham posted:"doing chores" sure does consume a lot of page count in WoT. its like real life
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Data Graham posted:"doing chores" sure does consume a lot of page count in WoT. how else are they going to browbeat the novices into being emotionally stunted and unquestioning of the frequently incompetent decisions of the ones being influenced by the black ajah
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Rarity posted:The Mat/Tylin dynamic really should stay in because media never highlights female-on-male rape Mat/Tylen and then Lan/Mel should both be left as written. Honestly, neither Mat nor Lan are great choices for representation flag flying. They’re busy being trauma victims, playing Odin/mentor, and beating up jackasses. Maybe just balance the supporting cast representation so you can have happy non-cis/het people on screen regularly instead of having the token representation in a lead. The leads are pretty routinely miserable. Anias fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Oct 29, 2021 16:11
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How else are they going to illustrate that they are just like the Aiel with their toh system while firmly claiming that they are nothing like them
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Anias posted:Mat/Tylen and then Lan/Mel should both be left as written. Honestly, neither Mat nor Lan are great choices for representation flag flying. They’re busy being trauma victims, playing Odin/mentor, and beating up jackasses. Don't get me wrong, Lan is awesome, but as a mentor he's toxic masculinity personified. He teaches Rand how to fight with a sword and that it's his duty to bear all his burdens alone. There's a scene in Winters Heart where they explicitly talk about how their failings as men have led them to be with the ones they love even though they should be carrying their duties without hurting those around them with their presence. It's one thing to say that it's important to keep Lan as-is because getting rid of all the garbage that he dumps on Rand is one of the most central aspects of the most important plotline of the series (and if this is what you meant, then preach), it's entirely another to say Sword Man fight good, Sword Man mentor good. Gambor fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Data Graham posted:67-page epic spanking montage becomes 3-episode epic spanking montage Just do a split screen for a few episodes where some part of the screen is always showing her getting spanked while other characters do things, it's what Jordan would of wanted.
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Gambor posted:Don't get me wrong, Lan is awesome, but as a mentor he's toxic masculinity personified. He teaches Rand how to fight with a sword and that it's his duty to bear all his burdens alone. There's a scene in Winters Heart where they explicitly talk about how their failings as men have led them to be with the ones they love even though they should be carrying their duties without hurting those around them with their presence. I literally meant lan’s bullshit is important, while not being a positive look for traditionally marginalized people, and not that he’s somehow right. Also your quote caught the autocorrect error I had to edit. Bleh.
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I think I'd personally prefer that the show keep Rand's relationship with the ladies as it is in the book and not force it into some kind of polyamorous polycule thing, but the wheel weaves as the wheel wills. Totally down for bisexual Mat, that seems like a solid fit for the character.
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Anias posted:I literally meant lan’s bullshit is important, while not being a positive look for traditionally marginalized people, and not that he’s somehow right. Also your quote caught the autocorrect error I had to edit. Bleh. Cool. It's shocking to me how nobody ever mentions that Lan's well meaning bullshit is arguably the root of the "I must be a hard man" garbage that is the thing Rand has to get over for most of the series. Also, I updated my quote.
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Hexel posted:I just hope Aviendha is a smokeshow
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They did well with the Daughter-Heir of Andor so I have hope https://twitter.com/ThatDarkRogue/status/1453853982665977858
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Gambor posted:Cool. It's shocking to me how nobody ever mentions that Lan's well meaning bullshit is arguably the root of the "I must be a hard man" garbage that is the thing Rand has to get over for most of the series. Also, I updated my quote. They do both grow through and out of it. There is a bit of a parallel with their growth through the books, just Lan gets there faster.
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seaborgium posted:They do both grow through and out of it. There is a bit of a parallel with their growth through the books, just Lan gets there faster. To be fair, Lan isn't slowly growing mad.
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Heh, Perrin's got a wolf motif going on with the weave around him and Mat is the only one free from being wrapped in the One Power. Not sure what the egg thing around Rand is supposed to be hinting at.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:
I see what you did there, WoT. "Please circle the Dragon Reborn who hurt you...."
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Nitrousoxide posted:Heh, Perrin's got a wolf motif going on with the weave around him and Mat is the only one free from being wrapped in the One Power. the eye of the dark one on him? i honestly can't remember if that's an expression in the books like i think or if i'm just conflating the obvious 'eye of sauron' similarity
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jng2058 posted:I see what you did there, WoT. Was about to post that. Those look really neat. The ad campaign recently was really strong, I'm super excited to watch the first three episodes.
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Or the fact that he feels essentially trapped by fate until he learns to accept it, or the literal cage of the One Power he faces later on?
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I think the colors for the woman (present and future) Aes Sedai are the same as their ultimate Ajahs?
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It's cute, because the pics are ambiguous enough that it doesn't necessarily pick out Rand as the Dragon Reborn if you don't already know, but for book readers putting Rand dead center and circled is a fun wink and a nod to "we know who it is, you know who it is, but the newbies don't know yet!"
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Nitrousoxide posted:I think the colors for the woman (present and future) Aes Sedai are the same as their ultimate Ajahs? Nah, the prism is around Nynaeve, Egwene has yellow, and Moiraine has red.
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Rand's egg mirrors the cage we've seen Logain in so its hinting they're the same, that's what I see anyway 
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Maybe it's supposed to be a dragon egg.
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jng2058 posted:It's cute, because the pics are ambiguous enough that it doesn't necessarily pick out Rand as the Dragon Reborn if you don't already know, but for book readers putting Rand dead center and circled is a fun wink and a nod to "we know who it is, you know who it is, but the newbies don't know yet!" especially since the main posters don't show those weaves -- you can only pick them out if you open up the images in photoshop and turn on the layers.
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By the way, on the topic of first appearance of the Aiel, they themselves weren't seen in book 1 (discounting Rand, of course), but even the first few chapters of the book had Tam's famous "they came over the Dragonwall like a flood" rumblings, and people "confusing" Rand for an Aiel, and the story of the dying Aiel warning about the Eye of the World, etc. They've been built up from the very start of the series, even when RJ wasn't even sure that there'd be a sequel to book 1.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:especially since the main posters don't show those weaves -- you can only pick them out if you open up the images in photoshop and turn on the layers. Wait, I missed that. They released them in PSD format?
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Torrannor posted:By the way, on the topic of first appearance of the Aiel, they themselves weren't seen in book 1 (discounting Rand, of course), but even the first few chapters of the book had Tam's famous "they came over the Dragonwall like a flood" rumblings, and people "confusing" Rand for an Aiel, and the story of the dying Aiel warning about the Eye of the World, etc. They've been built up from the very start of the series, even when RJ wasn't even sure that there'd be a sequel to book 1. I like the theory that this Aiel from the trailer is actually the show opener with the Battle of the Shining Walls and Tam finding and taking Rand. Rosamund had said on her dusty wheel call-in that the opener had been re-shot and somebody cooked up the theory that this new spring content will be the opener. I also read somewhere that the EOTW prologue will be in episode 4 but who even knows at this point 
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Nitrousoxide posted:Maybe it's supposed to be a dragon egg. At least its not a box 
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