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site posted:I dunno, when I was a kid, as a 64 owner I kinda lost my poo poo the first time I saw the cg intro on the ps1 Tekken demo Oh to be sure, the massive storage space discs had over cartridges allowing it to easily store movies was like 100% the reason the PS1 won the console war. As dumb kids, or even adults, who had never seen anything like that before it was godamn mindblowing. But that’s what I mean by “hasn’t aged as well”. In the end those little flashy animations were just that, they had nothing to do with the actual game itself. Like tekken would be the same game regardless of if you removed that cg intro or not.
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Crash bandicoot 1 has better graphics than any n64 game
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Oct 29, 2021 18:45
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The amount of porn and weeb poo poo on steam amuses me. It reminds me of the VHS rental places in my youth that had the walled off porn section, except much more shameful.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:47
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fridge corn posted:Ff15 is just a plain bad game. Perhaps the worst final fantasy It works better as BasicallyJesus and pals go on a bro roadtrip simulator. I got it again recently just to finally try out Episode Ardyn (it was an extra special kind of dumb). It is actually MASSIVE LOADS better than it was on release, they stuck in a default accessory or workaround that addresses almost every annoying gameplay design choice, even letting you skip nearly the whole stealth factory section.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:47
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Wonder Project J 2 is the best looking game on the N64
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Oct 29, 2021 18:47
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I don't understand the hate on FF7R's combat system at all. I thought it was a really good fusion of ATB and action combat, leaps and bounds better than FFXV's attempt to do that. I thought it was clunky at first but once I started playing the way it was intended (blocking is generally a better idea than trying to dodge, and changing characters very frequently is mandatory), I had a great time. Then again my most unpopular game opinions in relation to SA are "that popular game you hate? Heh... it's actually good  " so take that into accountSee also: Breath of the Wild owns, sorry nerds
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Oct 29, 2021 18:48
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Crash bandicoot 1 has better graphics than any n64 game
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Oct 29, 2021 18:51
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BotW is good. It was a top 10 game for 2017. Calling it one of the greatest most innovative and transformative games of all time is the bad hot take.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:52
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Crash bandicoot 1 has better graphics than any n64 game And there’s some absolutely insane reasons behind that: https://all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/04/making-crash-bandicoot-part-3/ The whole set of articles are worth a read, but the tl;dr for this part of the discussion is they did enormous amounts of precalculations on $100,000 SGI workstations to optimize the levels so that there were never more than 800 triangles on the screen at any time. Crash 1 also used enough disc loading calls to exceed the expected lifetime of the PS1’s disc drive in a single playthrough. Just absolutely bonkers levels of work went into making that game look good, and basically all of it was to work around what the PSX couldn’t do.
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Oct 29, 2021 18:53
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Serephina posted:This thread is wild. N64 had better graphics than the PSX? Tomb raider has good controls? Three bomberman games?! Tomb Raider has good controls! They're tight and responsive and you have room to maneuver and jump around in gunfights, and visually it's clear which jump type will land you where. I assume it's intentional that Lara jumps backwards everytime I draw the guns in TR3. Now, having said that, Back to Nature was way better than Harvest Moon 64 Doctor J Off fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Dewgy posted:And there’s some absolutely insane reasons behind that: https://all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/04/making-crash-bandicoot-part-3/ Too bad about the game itself tho
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I didn't love Breath of the Wild, I had an alright time and kind of petered out after about 15 hours just through feeling like I had nothing to do, it was an impressive world to be in but I'd already played Minecraft so most of what it did wasn't that novel Dewgy posted:And there’s some absolutely insane reasons behind that: https://all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/04/making-crash-bandicoot-part-3/ Oh man, I read this article a few years ago and it was a fascinating insight into the effort they made for one of the greatest playstation games of all time, I'll need to give that whole thing a read again at some point
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Oct 29, 2021 18:57
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I've always been a little impressed by Road Rash 3D, which did an open world with an "inifinite" horizon (using some clever hill placement and switching out skyboxes) by taking advantage of streaming from the disc. A shame the game sucks to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGUCZDSKzE&t=3400s Has a timestamp highlighting where the effect is most obvious. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Oct 29, 2021 18:59
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That is one thing that is so often true, is that no matter how much better or worse a system is technically it really comes down to the devs. Whether in time or skills. Like technically the SNES was as fast as the Genesis, but it was harder for devs to make it do that, so you get some snes games that just chug if more than two things are on screen at once vs Sonic. Or the PS3 despite it’s impressive specs a bitch to work for.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:03
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Road Rash 3D was the first time I ever saw the name KID.....KID ROCK
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Oct 29, 2021 19:04
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Y'know it's really astonishing that the mega-drive was the better console than the SNES. Nintendo had Mario for god sake which stands the test of time and we had Sonic but despite that shortcoming it's still a TKO every day of the week
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galagazombie posted:That is one thing that is so often true, is that no matter how much better or worse a system is technically it really comes down to the devs. Whether in time or skills. Like technically the SNES was as fast as the Genesis, but it was harder for devs to make it do that, so you get some snes games that just chug if more than two things are on screen at once vs Sonic. Or the PS3 despite it’s impressive specs a bitch to work for. I remember it being really noticeable in sports games, choppy as gently caress.
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Dewgy posted:On a technical level it kind of did though. The N64 had an early version of what we’d consider a modern graphics card architecture, so it could actually do things like texture filtering and perspective-corrected rendering, as well as using a real depth buffer where the PSX had to just sort triangles in software and then hope for the best. while true, it also antialiased by applying a vaseline-over-your-screen filter and looked like total loving poo poo on most old TVs my friends had
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kntfkr posted:Road Rash 3D was the first time I ever saw the name KID.....KID ROCK
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Oct 29, 2021 19:15
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3d games on PSX and n64 looked like poo poo even compared to 2d games on earlier consoles. And the controls were usually worse, e.g. mario64 vs. SMW. I experienced going from NES to SNES graphics and was massively disappointed by that generation and stopped playing altogether for a few years. But I love posting about that time!
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Oct 29, 2021 19:16
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Neco posted:3d games on PSX and n64 looked like poo poo even compared to 2d games on earlier consoles. And the controls were usually worse, e.g. mario64 vs. SMW. I experienced going from NES to SNES graphics and was massively disappointed by that generation and stopped playing altogether for a few years. But I love posting about that time! I specifically remember the PSX looking better than the N64 on old rear end CRT TV's as a kid specifically because it had no AA and didn't look like a vaseline filter
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Y'know it's really astonishing that the mega-drive was the better console than the SNES. Nintendo had Mario for god sake which stands the test of time and we had Sonic but despite that shortcoming it's still a TKO every day of the week The only real technical advantage the Genesis had was a faster processor. That let them smooth over a lot of the shortcomings of the system. The SNES was slower but the rest of the hardware were better choices for a game machine. Probably helped that the hardware was three years newer than the Genesis, too.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:29
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Donkey Kong Country is the best game ever because it reminds me of going on adventures with my daddy but he had the diabetes so we never went on no adventures.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Y'know it's really astonishing that the mega-drive was the better console than the SNES. Nintendo had Mario for god sake which stands the test of time and we had Sonic but despite that shortcoming it's still a TKO every day of the week Lol not even close. And I say this as a person who thinks the Genesis had a great library.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:30
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There's a reason every modern controller is an evolution of the SNES one and not the laughable Genesis 3 button one.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:32
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Stop calling it Genesis people the proper and much more rad name is the MEGA DRIVE
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nvidiagouge posted:There's a reason every modern controller is an evolution of the SNES one and not the laughable Genesis 3 button one. *Ahem* 
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Doctor J Off posted:*Ahem* I actually play a good portion of PC games with a controller now, too. The mouse remains superior for certain genres, though.
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Stop calling it Genesis people the proper and much more rad name is the MEGA DRIVE Actually Genesis is a cooler name than Mega Drive, which sounds dorky like its a GI Joe vehicle or something. More consoles should be named after the Bible, imo (Xbox is claiming the book of numbers lmao)
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Oct 29, 2021 19:50
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If mega drive sounds dorky what do you think genesis sounds like
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MrQwerty posted:I specifically remember the PSX looking better than the N64 on old rear end CRT TV's as a kid specifically because it had no AA and didn't look like a vaseline filter instead you got really bad aliasing and texture warping in most games. it's a trade off
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Genesis is stately and sophisticated
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Space Kablooey posted:If mega drive sounds dorky what do you think genesis sounds like The totally shredded dude from Golden Axe riding a dinosaur on top of a mountain, and he's got his axe raised as lightning strikes it
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SilvergunSuperman posted:The totally shredded dude from Golden Axe riding a dinosaur on top of a mountain, and he's got his axe raised as lightning strikes it this but the opposite by that i mean genesis sounds like a four eyes kid with bowl cut walking to the bible studies class with a whole god drat bible while he's dressed like a mini adult like a loser
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Oct 29, 2021 19:58
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Genesis makes you think of Phil Collins, Mega Drive makes you think of like a monster truck doing stunts
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Oct 29, 2021 20:00
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Who the hell hears Genesis and and thinks Phil Collins rather than Peter Gabriel? Wait don't answer that, it's better not to know
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Oct 29, 2021 20:03
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People who never had a genesis?
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Oct 29, 2021 20:08
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Sega consoles had cooler names than Nintendo. Always. And Genesis sounds cooler than Mega Drive.
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Oct 29, 2021 20:12
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dolphin would be a cute name but gamecube was such a in-your-face name that i cant help but love
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