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Congrats! Is it 1st or 2nd gen?
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Steakandchips posted:Bought it and it arrived this afternoon: i like how these two pictures imply that you charge it with a usb phone charger
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Oct 28, 2021 03:25
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Sagebrush posted:i like how these two pictures imply that you charge it with a usb phone charger
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Oct 28, 2021 05:14
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You crazy bastard! I'm jealous. Nice to see these getting into the wild.
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Oct 28, 2021 15:58
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Grats bud. Do a wheelie 
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Oct 28, 2021 19:18
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Thanks guys, here's another pic:
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Oct 28, 2021 21:46
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Nitrox posted:Congrats! Is it 1st or 2nd gen? Didn't know there was a 2nd gen. It's a 2020 model.
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Oct 28, 2021 21:47
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You planning in using that on your semi regular commute to london?
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Oct 28, 2021 22:26
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The new, 2nd gen Livewire has no Harley Davidson graphics anywhere and sold as if it's a different brand altogether. It's also $20k usd, which is way more reasonable in my opinion. Not sure what they cut out to meet that target price
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Oct 28, 2021 23:08
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Nitrox posted:The new, 2nd gen Livewire has no Harley Davidson graphics anywhere and sold as if it's a different brand altogether. It's also $20k usd, which is way more reasonable in my opinion. Not sure what they cut out to meet that target price Pretty obvious Steakandchips posted:Thanks guys, here's another pic: Your bad photo skills are just legendary
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Oct 28, 2021 23:17
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Steakandchips posted:Thanks guys, here's another pic: I've never looked for a schematic, but what is actually in that huge dong underneath?
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Oct 29, 2021 10:00
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The exhaust, duh
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Oct 29, 2021 12:07
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Renaissance Robot posted:I've never looked for a schematic, but what is actually in that huge dong underneath? It's robot kibble, that actually is the groin when it turns into bot mode. (In seriousness that's where the motor lives. There's some covers and a skid plate hiding it.)
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Oct 29, 2021 16:06
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Renaissance Robot posted:I've never looked for a schematic, but what is actually in that huge dong underneath? like Phy said, the dong is the motor, the stuff above it with the cooling fins, etc. is the battery pack and electronics
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Oct 29, 2021 16:38
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That's the motor, H-D put it in longitudinally so they could get some gear whine out of a 90deg bevel. It's the most Harley thing on the bike.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:05
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Hey guys I think it's the motor.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:24
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Yeah but my answer kinda dunked on H-D, which makes it valued CA content 
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Oct 29, 2021 17:26
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Phy posted:that actually is the groin when it turns into bot mode. This is the best and most correct answer.
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Oct 29, 2021 17:49
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The website with no mention of Harley Davidson https://www.livewire.com/#livewire-one-specs
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Oct 29, 2021 18:11
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Nitrox posted:The website with no mention of Harley Davidson Harley's inability to do anything new approaches clinical dysfunction
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Oct 29, 2021 18:46
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mewse posted:Harley's inability to do anything new approaches clinical dysfunction Harley has spent decades marketing themselves as a very specific lifestyle brand. The end result is that HD owners don't want to be associated with EV's, and EV owners don't want to be associated with HD. Kind of sad that it is so bad that they literally had to spin off the brand in order for it to stand a chance. They are more than capable of doing new stuff, but they can't sell it for..... reasons. helno fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Oct 29, 2021 19:49
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I guess it's similar to Toyota and Lexus.
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Oct 29, 2021 20:10
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Ak Gara posted:I guess it's similar to Toyota and Lexus. HD has spun Livewire off into its own brand with its own dealers, very few of which exist yet. As an example, here's the dealer map for the US:  I live in Ohio; the closest dealers to me are in Vermont, or New York City. Energica, the little boutique Italian electric motorcycle company, currently has a better US dealer network than the brand spun off by Harley loving Davidson  Sorry folks, this screams HD/Buell 2.0
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Oct 29, 2021 22:51
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Ak Gara posted:I guess it's similar to Toyota and Lexus. Nothing alike? Toyota and Lexus are super clear about being the same thing and iirc the only reason Lexus was even created was that the US put number of vehicle per brand import restrictions up at the behest of Detroit.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:40
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Good old "free" market of the US.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:55
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TheBacon posted:Nothing alike? Toyota and Lexus are super clear about being the same thing and iirc the only reason Lexus was even created was that the US put number of vehicle per brand import restrictions up at the behest of Detroit. Yeah, until fairly recently jdm Lexus models were just Toyotas at the top of the range - gs300 was the aristo, ls400 was the celsior etc The hd/livewire thing is more like a 200yo whiskey distillery deciding to produce alcopops on the side, under a different brand, so they don't piss off all the caskies.
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Oct 30, 2021 03:26
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Ulf posted:Yeah but my answer kinda dunked on H-D, which makes it valued CA content This guy gets it Jazzzzz posted:HD has spun Livewire off into its own brand with its own dealers, very few of which exist yet. Lol at Harley not putting a dealership in Milwaukee of all places. I keep saying this, I want the live wire to do well, but it really feels like Harley did everything in their power to set it up to fail
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Oct 30, 2021 15:10
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I keep saying this, I want the live wire to do well, but it really feels like Harley did everything in their power to set it up to fail “Look here are mr congressman. You need to make us exempt from any electrification laws, we tried look at the Livewire. It just didn’t work out economically”.
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Oct 31, 2021 01:46
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*electrimification
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Oct 31, 2021 02:15
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They will ship and service livewire bikes to/at any HD dealer in the country. I don't know what that map is, but it sure ain't the reality. Call your local HD dealer and they will have one for you ready to go.
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Oct 31, 2021 05:02
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Nitrox posted:They will ship and service livewire bikes to/at any HD dealer in the country. I don't know what that map is, but it sure ain't the reality. Call your local HD dealer and they will have one for you ready to go. Yeah but what if you want to look at it/touch it/sit on it/ or *gasp* take it for a test ride, before putting all the money down?
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Oct 31, 2021 05:36
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Nitrox posted:They will ship and service livewire bikes to/at any HD dealer in the country. I don't know what that map is, but it sure ain't the reality. Call your local HD dealer and they will have one for you ready to go. This article disagrees - FWIW, it's referencing an FAQ page on the Livewire website that I can't find: quote:The reduced price also means a reduced dealer network, unfortunately. From LiveWire’s FAQ page, only authorized LiveWire Stores, not Harley-Davidson dealers, can sell and service LiveWire ONEs. LiveWire currently has stores in California, Texas and New York. They will not ship motorcycles beyond 50 miles from a store and their store locator won't show any results at all if you are more than 150 miles away. That map is the dealer locator straight off the loving Livewire.com website - https://www.livewire.com/locations - it's absolutely reality, and you're talking out of your rear end You can still go buy an HD-branded Livewire at any Harley dealer who might have one in stock, and you'll pay $7,000 more than the Livewire branded one to do so. HD isn't making any more of them though, so act fast!
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Oct 31, 2021 08:04
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Saving up my down payment for probably a KLR 650 and am debating when I should try to go pull the trigger. I know standard down payment (especially with so-so credit like mine) is 10-20%. I'm working extra hours at work that make it easy to predict what extra funds I can put towards this. Adding in estimated destination fees, registration, and title, I should have 10% down by early January. If I want to get closer to 15%, I'll have it by the end of January and I can have a full 20% down by April (not counting tax return money I should be able to kick in). I'm a little worried about dealer stock because of ... everything, so I'd like to do this sooner than later, but if I'm wasting my time trying to get qualified with a 10% down payment, then that just is what it is and I can wait. Anyone have any inside scoop on what stock should look like over the coming months for the KLR and the 2022 Vstroms (which I haven't actually seen make it to any local dealerships yet)? Or if we even have a way to monitor that at all? I don't want all the ABS versions to dry up before I can go nab one. Though by then, the new Vstroms may be out and I'll be doing some different math anyway. I've always drove poo poo heaps and paid for my scooters with cash/privately secured credit, so this whole financing thing is a bit of a mystery to me. I'm in my 40's, been at the same job for more than 5 years, and have plenty of credit history, but I am definitely still recovering from a divorce and foreclosure back when everyone was getting divorced and foreclosed on. No longer on my credit, but it's still building back up. I want a new bike for a variety of reasons and have accepted that this means dealing with credit scores and percentages and poo poo.
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Oct 31, 2021 10:11
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I don't know anything about financing but I know that financing a klr650 is a massively terrible idea. They depreciate like rocks, they are a godawful motorcycle by just about every metric, they are terrible value for money, don't get one for the love of god. Buying one brand new, on finance, is completely crazy. What you're looking for is a tenere 700 or a vstrom/versys 650 or perhaps a cb500x or nc750x.
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Oct 31, 2021 10:20
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If you can get them in your market then there's also the CFMoto 650MT and Voge 500DS which might be worth a look at.
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Oct 31, 2021 10:29
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Lungboy posted:Voge 500DS I was gonna be all  but then immediately realized it's still better than a KLR
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Oct 31, 2021 10:34
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Geekboy posted:Saving up my down payment for probably a KLR 650 and am debating when I should try to go pull the trigger. I know standard down payment (especially with so-so credit like mine) is 10-20%. I'm working extra hours at work that make it easy to predict what extra funds I can put towards this. The KLR is disliked around here for valid reasons but I just find it tough to justify financing a new bike with a design that hasn't changed in decades. The DR650 or Vstrom are better choices, have you looked into financing a used one (or KLR, if you must) through your bank?
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Oct 31, 2021 14:14
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If buying on finance there's also the brand new Tiger 660 to have a look at, it's significantly more expensive outright than the rest but might not be so bad on HP or similar. Tracer 7 is yet another to consider too, as is the Duke 390 Adventure if you don't mind going a bit smaller displacement.
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Oct 31, 2021 14:41
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Geekboy posted:Saving up my down payment for probably a KLR 650 and am debating when I should try to go pull the trigger. I know standard down payment (especially with so-so credit like mine) is 10-20%. I'm working extra hours at work that make it easy to predict what extra funds I can put towards this. I will also reiterate that if you think a DR650 is not the bike you’re looking for, a KLR definitely isn’t. VStrom still sounds like a good target for you.
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Regardless of the bike I choose months from now, the numbers are what I’m interested in. I can change my mind five times, but still need to plan the financial portion. A new vehicle of any sort is always a terrible investment. I don’t view it in those terms. It’s a matter of whether burning that money is worth it to me or not.
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