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Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

:snipe: Did someone say LDP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khchqRIPN4U

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/mit_obe/status/1454875209060610049

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Al-Saqr posted:

Australians are pretty much the bottom tier of the white world under the New Zealanders.

Really? imo Kiwis are infinitely better than the English, who are the absolute bottom of the bottom tier

Australians are, however, only slightly better than the English by virtue of not being loving English lmao

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008


Ok, but what if someone reads the article linked instead?


quote:

Some senior LDP politicians are struggling to keep their seats, among them former party No. 2 Nobuteru Ishihara, and IT minister Takuya Hirai.

The tough going for some LDP candidates indicates "the government's failure to fully address voter frustration and unease about the COVID pandemic," said LDP secretary general Akira Amari, who lost his seat but stayed in parliament via the proportional representation vote. Amari has told Kishida that he intends to step down as secretary-general, which poses a dilemma for the prime minister.

The LDP is likely to win fewer than the 276 seats it held before the dissolution of the lower house on Oct. 14. The party faced a much tougher electoral challenge from a unified opposition, with the Constitutional Democratic Party, the biggest opposition group, forming an electoral coalition with other parties including the Japanese Communist Party.

The CDP is expected to fall short of the 110 seats it held going into the election, but will maintain its status as the biggest opposition force.

"Because the CDP advocated the same distributive policies as the prime minister, it got lost in the shuffle," a senior LDP official said. "Nippon Ishin got the protest votes."

One of the opposition parties that benefited from the LDP's loss of seats is Nippon Ishin no Kai, or Japan Innovation Party, a libertarian group with roots in Osaka. The party's presence could triple from 10 before the election. It is likely to surpass Komeito to become the third-largest party.

Though the LDP maintained its sole majority, the party's loss of seats could lead it to show more consideration to coalition partner Komeito in making policy. The larger party has been leery of expensive Komeito proposals such as handouts of 100,000 yen ($880) for all children of high school age and younger, but may be forced to compromise to keep the legislative machinery running smoothly.

The election result may put the LDP on firmer footing ahead of next summer's upper house election, which has had some on edge. The party lacks a sole majority in the chamber, relying on Komeito to pass the 50% mark, and substantial losses in that election could hand control to the opposition, dividing the Diet.

Doesn't sound like everything is fine, but it also doesn't include a final seat count for parties so :shrug:

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Oct 31, 2021

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





lollontee posted:

thats mostly because your tories are too insane even for america. like jesus christ how could you elect margerine thatcher. how stupid can a human being get

lmao if you honestly think Thatcher's Tories were more insane than Reagan's Republicans

I mean, gently caress, Thatcher was one of the worst Prime Ministers of all time, but at least she wasn't Ronald loving Reagan, who was materially supported by a fuckton of neocons and evangelical wingnuts to cram the most batshit social policies through Congress

I will concede that Reagan and Thatcher both moved the Overton Window much further to the right than if, idk, John B. Anderson and Jim Prior had been President and PM at that time respectively, but holy loving poo poo, no, you do not get to say that the Tories are too insane even for America

anyway, lmao @ Japan

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

That actually seem to be a very good result to the new LDP PM.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/WEIWEIDAI4/status/1454642547662282755

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

https://twitter.com/WEIWEIDAI4/status/1454835435813801994

brutal

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Venomous posted:

lmao if you honestly think Thatcher's Tories were more insane than Reagan's Republicans

It's a race to the bottom but everything I've read has suggested to me that Thatcher was actually the more hardcore cold warrior who pushed Reagan to the right on foreign policy when she could. Ronny was crazier on domestic issues but was limited by a Dem Congress.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

On one hand Japan is an island nation and all of those must meet the fate of Atlantis, but on the other hand this is good.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
so here are china's 2020's carbon plan:

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454006371280642048?s=20

looking back at the 2015 plan, how did they do?

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454008688021286913?s=20

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454008904799694855?s=20

(lots more examples in the twitter thread)

imagine if western governments could plan 5 years in advance

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

they can't even do three months in advance, let alone an entire election cycle lol

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Mantis42 posted:

It's a race to the bottom but everything I've read has suggested to me that Thatcher was actually the more hardcore cold warrior who pushed Reagan to the right on foreign policy when she could. Ronny was crazier on domestic issues but was limited by a Dem Congress.

joe biden pushed reagan to the right on the crime bill

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

crepeface posted:

so here are china's 2020's carbon plan:

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454006371280642048?s=20

looking back at the 2015 plan, how did they do?

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454008688021286913?s=20

https://twitter.com/izak_novak/status/1454008904799694855?s=20

(lots more examples in the twitter thread)

imagine if western governments could plan 5 years in advance

i mean just look at where china was just after ww2 and where they are now

if anyone thinks china cant brute force anything they say they are gonna do then theyre in for a huge poo poo sandwich

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


I thought south africans were the bottom tier white people

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Some DnD posters having a bad time in Britain.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/hongkongers-find-a-rough-welcome-in-the-uk/

quote:

utside an unremarkable Chinese takeaway in the Berkshire market town of Wokingham stood a woman with a placard in her hands. She looked indignant. She was here to protest against the takeaway owner who she said hadn’t paid her for the four hours she worked during her trial period – something that many Chinese catering workers across Britain would keep quiet about. “This is not about the money; employers just shouldn’t get away with cheating people,” she said.

Ms Chan – not her real name – is a relatively new face in town, having arrived as a British National Overseas (BNO) applicant in the spring of 2021 from Hong Kong with her husband Joseph and two teenage boys. Except for the 50 families from Hong Kong now living in Wokingham, few knew of her background – like most new arrivals from Hong Kong since last June, when Beijing installed the new National Security Law, she doesn’t want to reveal anything of her past.

“There is a big divide among the Chinese community in Britain, into the ‘blue’ and ‘yellow’ camps,” said her husband Joseph. “The blues are those who defend the status quo and loyally support the Chinese government, whereas the ‘yellow’ camp refers to their opponents, those who want change.” In July 2020, 200 British Chinese organisations from the “blue” camp made a public statement endorsing the National Security Law.

Their endorsement was followed by a year of government crackdown in Hong Kong. Over a hundred pro-democracy activists were arrested under the National Security Law; civil organisations, from teachers’ unions to journalist associations and NGOs were all hunted down. Unions have been bearing the brunt of state repression of civil rights. The Hong Kong Professional Teachers’ Union (HKPTU), the city’s largest teachers’ union with 95,000 members, was called a “malignant tumour that should be eradicated” by Chinese state media and had to disband in August 2021. A month later in September, the 145,000-member Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions, the largest union opposition body in Hong Kong, announced its plans to disband amid growing concern for the safety of its members.

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Much of the British Chinese business community, such as employers like Ms Chan’s, belong to the “blues”. Apart from being ‘difficult workers’ who may demand higher wages in British Chinese catering’s sweatshop economy, the new migrants from Hong Kong can also represent, in the eyes of their British Chinese employers, the new political ‘trouble’ that constantly seeks to rock the boat.

With the existing patronage and political alliances firmly embedded in the traditional Chinese community networks, new Hong Kong migrants, who identify themselves as Hongkongers, are always cautious. They are aware that many British Chinese groupings are in some ways an extension – or at least a shadow – of the powers back home.

UK government’s lip service and Hongkongers’ reality
Since last summer, it is estimated that around 90,000 Hongkongers have left home. The majority of the newly-arrived Hongkongers in the UK are aged between their mid-30s to early 40s, according to a survey the group Hongkongers in Britain told openDemocracy it had carried out. The British government introduced the five-year British National Overseas (BNO) visa which means BNOs and their family members can live, work and study in the UK, and have a route to permanent settlement and citizenship. The government anticipates up to 320,000 Hongkongers who hold BNO passports and their family members could arrive over the next five years. Around 34,000 BNO visa applications were made in the first quarter of 2021.

However, beyond lip service, there seems little structure in place for Hongkongers to truly settle in Britain. According to Julian Chan, director of Hongkongers in Britain (HKB), a community-building, volunteer-based group set up by Hongkongers last year, adapting to a new life here looks to be a long, difficult struggle for many.

New arrivals either have problems transferring their previous work skills or getting their qualifications recognised in the UK, Chan said. As a result, despite many being highly-educated and skilled, ‘mainstream’ jobs are hard to come by. Meanwhile, new arrivals can’t afford to stay without work while waiting to be issued their National Insurance numbers (it takes a minimum of 16 weeks). They often have to wait for approvals for their BNO visas for five months.

On top of all of this, adding to the financial difficulties of many BNO visa holders, some are unable to withdraw their retirement savings from certain institutions in Hong Kong, such as HSBC, Manulife and AIA. Beijing withdrew recognition of BNO passports as valid documents this January and ordered these institutions not to release funds to BNO holders.

People seeking asylum are in an even more vulnerable position. Britain has received 121 asylum applications from Hongkongers to date, including five under-18s. Asylum-seekers in the UK are often pushed into destitution as they are not permitted to work before their cases have received a decision from the Home Office. They live in permanent uncertainty and in fear of deportation.

This is why many Hongkongers, both BNO applicants or holders and asylum-seekers, in their different ways, can find themselves trapped in low-paid and exploitative work. This often means working as cleaners, builders, or casual staff in the British Chinese catering industry, where they find jobs easily available.

I haven’t beaten anyone up for a while. If you provoke me again, I will beat you.

Such was the case of a newly-arrived Hongkonger who got a job working as a chef in a Chinese restaurant in Cambridge. Since day one, his employer made verbal abuse a daily event for him. He was constantly insulted and shouted at. One Friday, the boss said to him: “I haven’t beaten anyone up for a while. If you provoke me again, I will beat you.” The man felt he had to leave the job immediately. His employer found him at the train station, and demanded the keys back. “If I report it to the police, you’ll be finished.” He added: “You didn’t give any notice for leaving the job. You owe me two days’ money.”

The chef contacted the London-based Hackney Chinese Community Services (HCCS) for help. HCCS provides advice, support and advocacy services to the East and Southeast Asian (ESEA) community, and is one of the few ESEA community organisations that works directly with Hongkongers, supporting both BNO applicants and asylum seekers. The centre manager Jabez Lam, who himself came to the UK from Hong Kong more than three decades ago, dealt with the Cambridge chef’s case and found out that there was no work contract. Nor did the work match the job description, since the chef was asked to clean toilets. Lam mediated and eventually got the employer to return the five days’ owed wages to the man, albeit reluctantly. Such cases of non-payment of wages are not uncommon among the new arrivals.

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Hackney Chinese Community Services (HCCS) hosted a meeting between the London Deputy Mayor for Community and Social Justice and Hongkongers and their organisations | Hackney Chinese Community Service
The Hongkongers in Britain group also offers advice on everyday life, including employment, and tries to point new arrivals in the right direction. Chan, the director, said that there was a lack of information on labour rights for new migrants.

Chan, however, said that housing stands out as the most difficult issue facing people. Recent arrivals have no UK credit history and no UK bank accounts, while landlords and letting agencies do not understand BNO visas, which means they are likely to simply turn the Hongkongers away. Lam confirmed this account, saying HCCS was seeing a rising number of Hongkongers coming to the centre for advice and assistance, with housing one of the most pressing issues. As their experiences demonstrate, it’s hard to get past landlords who have been asked to act as internal border guards under the government’s hostile environment policy (landlords now have a legal duty to check that prospective tenants have the right to live in the UK) but who don’t understand people’s varied forms of immigration status.

As a result of their difficulties with housing, the cost of living and the search for better schools, Hongkongers tend to choose to live in smaller cities and towns, away from the big cities where traditionally Chinese communities concentrate.

Another prominent issue is mental health. Lam said that many Hongkongers suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). They are dealing with a lot more than the anxiety that came with adapting to a new environment. “They’ve fled their home, the city they love, and live in fear of disclosure of their identities,” said Lam. “Many of them fear that their families back home may be targeted.”

Lam has come across many young people under thirty who took part in the protest movement back in Hong Kong. A large number of them have PTSD. For the young protestors who were born after the 1 July 1997 cut-off point for BNO eligibility, claiming asylum could be their only option for securing the right to live in the UK. Some have arrived as unaccompanied minors. Their mental health is made worse by their precarious immigration status. Unfortunately, in the NHS, it has not been easy to get decent mental health support for young Hongkongers. Healthcare professionals don’t seem equipped for this. “Training and cultural sensitivity has been found lacking in the NHS, when dealing with and providing healthcare to people in the ESEA community, as well as the new Hongkongers,” said Lam.

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Hongkongers took part in the Hackney Chinese Community Service (HCCS) Dragon Boat festival with the East and Southeast Asian community | Hackney Chinese Community Service
Most Hongkongers rely on self-help groups such as Hongkongers in Britain for advice and support. In the area around Wokingham and Reading where Ms Chan and her family live, Christian churches were the only local community groups that made an effort to welcome the new arrivals and offer practical support.

“Civil society needs to offer support to the new arrivals,” said Lam. “There are huge resources out there, for instance, in the voluntary sector. We need to direct Hongkongers to these networks, and make civil society aware of their needs.”

“Westminster needs to do more,” said Chan. Resources need to be allocated, to enable new Hong Kong migrants to overcome the consequences of institutional failure and move towards being accepted as members of society.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Throatwarbler posted:

Some DnD posters having a bad time in Britain.

Moving to a racist failed state to own the tankies

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

crepeface posted:

so here are china's 2020's carbon plan:

western leftoids really gonna claim to support the green new deal then back regime change in the only major nation enacting it

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

they are the real tankies the think tankies

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Venomous posted:

Really? imo Kiwis are infinitely better than the English, who are the absolute bottom of the bottom tier

Australians are, however, only slightly better than the English by virtue of not being loving English lmao

hmmmm you’re right the English are the worst I was thinking too economically in totality the English are the absolute worst

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I wonder why the online libs went from hating "chuds" to hating "tankies" when biden was elected. :thunk:

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Al-Saqr posted:

hmmmm you’re right the English are the worst I was thinking too economically in totality the English are the absolute worst

the place with the worst food must also be the worst in everything else

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



if a country speaks english its probably poo poo unless its people aren't white or its ireland

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
You should absolutely go into the uk cspam thread and make fun of the worst country and how it is bad and it is good when bad things happen to the worst place.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
The attitude towards workers' unions in China continually depresses me.
I mean yes lol of course workers are all members of the One True Union and all that, but they still get exploited to hell and back.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Boy that article spends a lot of time establishing that the British company committing wage theft actually loves the CCP

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Atopian posted:

The attitude towards workers' unions in China continually depresses me.

Are you Chinese?

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

paperwind posted:

Are you Chinese?

Would that make a difference?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
if you aren’t Chinese then you wouldn’t understand the intricacies of the socialist utopia that provides nets for people who try to jump off of Foxconn buildings.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1454824309952757765?t=X2J-TblDFun1q7aegrhS6Q&s=19

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Between this and the libertarians winning big you have to admit that Incredible things are happening in Japan.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





tbf even though the English are the worst and England is a horrible fascist nation, I need to point out that it is only a smidgen better than the US by virtue of the NHS being free at the point of use, tho even that's out of the door in the next few years

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Al-Saqr posted:

if you aren’t Chinese then you wouldn’t understand the intricacies of the socialist utopia that provides nets for people who try to jump off of Foxconn buildings.

To be fair the nets were provided by Taiwanese who don’t even pretend to be socialist

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

eSports Chaebol posted:

To be fair the nets were provided by Taiwanese who don’t even pretend to be socialist

There's a joke here about pointing out that Foxconn is based in Taiwan and a retort of "so, Chinese then?"

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

eSports Chaebol posted:

To be fair the nets were provided by Taiwanese who don’t even pretend to be socialist

Taiwanese companies operating on the mainland are infamous for the sharpness of their deals with suppliers and workers, and not in a good way.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

crepeface posted:

imagine if western governments could plan 5 years in advance

I loving love 5 years plans to be honest, especially when you are just meeting or exceeding goal after goal after goal and not even doing the kind of fuckery Western governments use (don't meet target? that's ok, just adjust the target until you do) to do it.

It makes human progress almost tangible.

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 11:09 on Nov 1, 2021

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Orange Devil posted:

the kind of fuckery Western governments use

it's almost like the goal of liberalism is evasion of responsibility

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Orange Devil posted:

I loving love 5 years plans to be honest, especially when you are just meeting or exceeding goal after goal after goal and not even doing the kind of fuckery Western governments use (don't meet target? that's ok, just adjust the target until you do) to do it.

It makes human progress almost tangible.

To be fair soviets did that kind of "fuckery" but ignoring that due to how the things in 5 year plans must be done it also makes sense why any failed goals would still be included in the next 5 year plan.

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